Do people just text others even though they aren't sure if others have a text plan?

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preslove

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Exactly.

They cant be trusted not to crap on someone in a porn, so I'll just keep our system.

Practically the entire fucking world has their system.

You really think having to pay for something you have no control over is a GOOD thing? Do you even think?
 
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Practically the entire fucking world has their system.

You really think having to pay for something you have no control over is a GOOD thing? Do you even think?
Look at who you're talking to. OCGuy is a huge troll, he just doesn't get labelled as a troll often because he's a subtle troll.
 

OCGuy

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Practically the entire fucking world has their system.

You really think having to pay for something you have no control over is a GOOD thing? Do you even think?

A. If I use Verizon's tower to upload it, and AT&T has to recieve it on your end, using theirs, which one of them is going to give you a free pass?

B. Do you really get that many unsolicited texts that people keep sending even if you say "Please stop" or dont respond at all? Are you Tiger Woods?
 
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A. If I use Verizon's tower to upload it, and AT&T has to recieve it on your end, using theirs, which one of them is going to give you a free pass?

B. Do you really get that many unsolicited texts that people keep sending even if you say "Please stop" or dont respond at all? Are you Tiger Woods?
Holy shit, you might actually not be trolling. You might genuinely be this stupid.

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zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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In my country you only pay for outgoing TXTs. It makes no fucking sense to pay for something you have no control over.

Wait, now I'm confused. You and your brother had me thoroughly convinced that your country was incapable of making any sense.
:hmm:
 

ElFenix

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Mar 20, 2000
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From what I've heard most of the world is this way - you only pay for outgoing SMS, MMS or calls. Sounds to me like your telcos are double-dipping.

everyone here hates the telcos and cable companies except spidey07
 

microAmp

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Jul 5, 2000
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It seems that way, a co-worker sent me a picture, a friend sent a couple of text messages to me but since I have mine disabled I never got them. Also, seems rude that people don't consider that you might have to pay for every message that comes in. I only used it 3 times in all the many years of having it. Spam messages started to pop up and that's what got me to disable it.
 

MotionMan

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People assume that everyone else has unlimited texting. My wife and I do not and every month my wife has to hold me back from asking her friends to reimburse us for all the text charges.

I use Google Voice when necessary, which is almost never.

MotionMan
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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From what I've heard most of the world is this way - you only pay for outgoing SMS, MMS or calls. Sounds to me like your telcos are double-dipping.

I shudder at the thought of what I am about to do...
but...

I agree.

:p

I'll upon our friendly neighbor to the North to determine how they do things up there...

The issue a lot of people don't realize though, is that the U.S. is forever going to be behind the world in anything related to communications. We pioneered most forms of communication technology, because we're awesome like that, but we do not have the means to always have the best capabilities at the consumer level. It's just not economically possible as far as I can tell.

It also does not help that the Federal government has provided some backwards answers to the whole corporate competition concept for the telcos, but in general, our population in comparison to our land size is a nightmare for telcos.
Factor in the geography with the inane competition policies, and it's easy to understand why we are always going to be behind countries that have far denser populations in small land areas.

Pricing comes from competition. And the cost efficiency of the services provided. Large land area with certain dense hot-spots of civilization, but mostly a low density population? Insane costs to get new services to all those people. You just don't see that in other countries. You get multiple companies competing for the same population, oh and all of which are housed within what are essentially tiny borders (in comparison to the U.S.). This makes it simple and very cost effective to provide rapidly improving technologies across the entire population. Couple that in with multiple providers over a very small geographical area, and they have to seriously please their customers.

Here, competition is most often seen as competing technologies, not multiple companies with the same technology. And stale technology in comparison on all fronts too.
And multiple measures of nickle-and-diming to make up the high cost of the tech upgrades. Less competition = more consumer acceptance of this practice.
:(

How's it up there Canada? Do you get charged for incoming texts, among the many other things? High costs between companies?
Even then, Canada in terms of geography and population density has it less rough than here in the U.S., as they have a lot of very very minimally populated territory. I imagine a lot of people in the nether-regions get the shaft. We have that too, as places like Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and the Dakotas, have very small populations in comparison to other states, and they are also relatively large states. Not a lot of awesome communications services/options out there afaik.

The only other countries that can compare, besides Canada (for the most part) are China and Russia.
What are their communications services like? :D
China has the population density to support the tech boom, whenever they get both the technology and the consumers who can afford it. Not talking just a few major cities, but the entire country. That won't be awhile. Russia, some cities have the options, but their economy even in the bigger cities is basically stalled, whereas China is showing economic progress... in some ways, somehow...
 

zinfamous

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bandwidth cost per text message for telcoms is ~$0.0003

Somehow, these asshats have managed to convince millions of sheeple that $0.25 per text is a fair price withoiut a plan, and that some $5 per 250 texts is a huge bargain.

amazing.
 

KaOTiK

Lifer
Feb 5, 2001
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fuck text messaging I say

if it isn't important enough to actually call me over at that time then don't bother me
 

KeithTalent

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fuck text messaging I say

if it isn't important enough to actually call me over at that time then don't bother me

Not me, I freaking hate talking on the phone. I do whatever I can to avoid doing it.

KT
 

grohl

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Jun 27, 2004
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fuck text messaging I say

if it isn't important enough to actually call me over at that time then don't bother me

yeah, I used to think this.

Then I got over it. It's not 2001 anymore.
 

cronos

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Nov 7, 2001
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In my country you only pay for outgoing TXTs. It makes no fucking sense to pay for something you have no control over.

The same thing happens with receiving calls as well.

I've lived in the US for more than 10 years now and I still couldn't get over this. I may already have plans that allow me to avoid getting charged the crazy rates, but the principle of it still bothers me greatly.
 

fatpat268

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I don't mind texts... I hate the people who try to maintain a fucking conversation through texts.

Seriously, I'm not interested in being interrupted in 1 minute intervals and replying to your texts. Luckily, most of my friends realize that I don't carry conversations in text.
 
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fuck text messaging I say

if it isn't important enough to actually call me over at that time then don't bother me
What does "important" have to do with it? Some messages are just better conveyed in a short text than a phone call. No point calling just to say "I'm going to be 5 mins late" or "We're in Borders, meet you outside". These messages are important enough to convey, but the text message is a fine mode of communication for them.