Do most muslims really think Bin Laden was not behind 9/11?

Infohawk

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...and many doubt that Arabs were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Just 40% of Muslim Americans say groups of Arabs carried out those attacks.

http://pewforum.org/Muslim/Muslim-Americans-Middle-Class-and-Mostly-Mainstream(2).aspx

If that's what American Muslims think you have to imagine it's worse for foreign Muslims.

Apologists love to paint a picture of a mostly moderate Muslim world. Every single poll I've seen pretty much confirms that Muslims do not like America, think 9/11 was a conspiracy, etc.

With regards to the OBL death, they will come up with their own story too.
 

yllus

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Conspiracies are part of everyday life in the Middle East. Basically, everything thats wrong in the world is Israel/Jews fault. With America placing a close second.

Unfortunately this is probably quite accurate. It's the result of 24/7 propaganda of the governments of Middle Eastern nations - while the truth is their leaders are kleptocrats and tyrants, they'd rather not publicize that fact. Instead they push the myth of the wily American or Jew who are responsible for everything that's wrong with the world.
 

Abwx

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http://www.icna.org/2011/05/icna’-statement-on-killing-of-osama-bin-laden/

reading some of the comments on this islam website is kinda disturbing

For sure it disturbing since he was never prosecuted for 9/11 events...

That would have required a legal criminal investigation
on the matter wich was never opened by the US gov.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

BTW, has someone some info about this :

Tell us why WTC 7 did collapse....
 
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werepossum

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Usama became one of Islam's most popular names because he struck such a great blow against the Great Satan. If Muslims truly believed he did not do this, there would be no reason for his name to suddenly prosper. This stated "belief" is nothing more than an excuse to continue evil.
 

Throckmorton

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25% of Americans don't think Obama was born in America... So how is it surprising that a lot of Muslims think OBL wasn't behind 9/11?
 

Rainsford

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Wait a second. Are you really basing your view of what "most Muslims" think on the comments on a website? A website, I might add, of an Islamic organization that clearly thinks Osama WAS behind 9/11. Read the comments on even mainstream websites like cnn.com or foxnews.com, not to mention less reasonable organizations like townhall.com. Anyone reading those sites would think Americans are complete nutballs.
 

xj0hnx

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BTW, has someone some info about this :
Originally Posted by Abwx said:
Tell us why WTC 7 did collapse....

Alex, is that you?

On a more serious note, yea, people have been told why, in a thread on this very forum they had it explained to them in spades, and guess what, they like anyone that believes Osama is still alive doesn't actually want an answer, they just want confirmation that their lunacy is shared by others.
 

Abwx

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Still no explanation about WTC7 ???.......

Was it hit by a drunked car driver ??...
 

Abwx

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The question :

Tell us why WTC 7 did collapse....

The trolls s answers :

Why don't you gtfo and go have a circle-jerk with kylebisme?

I'll give you a hint - play Jenga.

go spend your time a conspiracy forum where you will fit in nicely.

Abwx probably thinks the jews did it.

head_in_sand.jpg
 

Kadarin

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I have a former coworker who happens to be Muslim. By no means is this guy an extremist, and I consider him to be a great guy. However, when we got on the subject of 9/11 one day, he told me that he felt the US government must have been behind it in some way. My takeaway from that conversation is that when it comes to Islam, Muslims believe that other Muslims can do no wrong.
 

wuliheron

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I have a former coworker who happens to be Muslim. By no means is this guy an extremist, and I consider him to be a great guy. However, when we got on the subject of 9/11 one day, he told me that he felt the US government must have been behind it in some way. My takeaway from that conversation is that when it comes to Islam, Muslims believe that other Muslims can do no wrong.


Even if they don't believe it they won't admit it. Its like a cultural taboo. You might as well ask a born again Christian to admit the Bible has factual errors or a Tea Partier to admit their ideas have any flaws.
 
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Zebo

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Well all muslims are different but trend is anything that discredits Islam or brings shame to their community is usually dismissed outright as a plot by infidels. I think it's human nature more than anything. Most Muslims are not blood thirsty jihadis and don't want to belive one of their own could be. You also saw this a lot in Iraq too where infidel invaders were blamed for many mosque bombings until some jihadi group claimed responsibility.

You know Nasser after ass kicking in six day war actually concocted tales of British and American pilots, hijacking their own air-force planes which ultimately led to defeat. LOL Conspiracies run high in region and to the top..
 
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wuliheron

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Well all muslims are different but trend is anything that discredits Islam or brings shame to their community is usually dismissed outright as a plot by infidels. I think it's human nature more than anything. Most Muslims are not blood thirsty jihadis and don't want to belive one of their own could be. You also saw this a lot in Iraq too where infidel invaders were blamed for many mosque bombings until some jihadi group claimed responsibility.

You know Nasser after ass kicking in six day war actually concocted tales of British and American pilots, hijacking their own air-force planes which ultimately led to defeat. LOL Conspiracies run high in region and to the top..


"Groupthink" is human nature, but dogma that promotes xenophobia is different and more closely associated with fundamentalism.
 

Matt1970

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Tell us why WTC 7 did collapse....

Not that your idiotic claim warrants a real responce, but here goes.

In its progress report, NIST released a video and still-photo analysis of 7 World Trade Center before its collapse that appears to indicate a greater degree of structural damage from falling debris than originally assumed by FEMA. Specifically, NIST's interim report on 7 World Trade Center displays photographs of the southwest facade of the building that show it to have significant damage. The report also highlights a 10-story gash in the center of the south facade, toward the bottom, extending approximately a quarter of the way into the interior. A unique aspect of the design of 7 World Trade Center was that each outer structural column was responsible for supporting 2,000 sq ft (186 m²) of floor space, suggesting that the simultaneous removal of a number of columns severely compromised the structure's integrity. Consistent with this theory, news footage shows cracking and bowing of the building's east wall immediately before the collapse, which began at the penthouse floors. In video of the collapse, taken from the north by CBS News and other news media, the first visible sign of collapse is movement in the east penthouse 8.2 seconds before the north wall began to collapse, which took at least another 7 seconds.

The working hypothesis, released in the June 2004 progress report and reiterated in a June 2007 status update, was that an initial failure in a critical column occurred below the 13th floor, caused by damage from fire and/or debris from the collapse of the two main towers. The collapse progressed vertically up to the east mechanical penthouse. The interior structure was unable to handle the redistributed load, resulting in horizontal progression of the failure across lower floors, particularly the 5th to 7th floors. This resulted in "a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure."