Do most muslims really think Bin Laden was not behind 9/11?

[Inspector Jihad]

its like getting black people to admit OJ was guilty!

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

http://www.icna.org/2011/05/icna’-statement-on-killing-of-osama-bin-laden/

reading some of the comments on this islam website is kinda disturbing

Have you read comments on various forums about all the US citizens that believe Obama isn't the President because he wasn't born in the US?

Or the comments from the people that think Obama is Muslim?

Or the comments from the people that think Osama isn't dead, and it's a ploy by Obama to help his re-election?

Do those comments disturb you as well? They should. Crazy people are crazy.

 

[Abwx]

Not that your idiotic claim warrants a real responce, but here goes.

I repost your quote :

Quote:
In its progress report, NIST released a video and still-photo analysis of 7 World Trade Center before its collapse that appears to indicate a greater degree of structural damage from falling debris than originally assumed by FEMA. Specifically, NIST's interim report on 7 World Trade Center displays photographs of the southwest facade of the building that show it to have significant damage. The report also highlights a 10-story gash in the center of the south facade, toward the bottom, extending approximately a quarter of the way into the interior. A unique aspect of the design of 7 World Trade Center was that each outer structural column was responsible for supporting 2,000 sq ft (186 m&#178 of floor space, suggesting that the simultaneous removal of a number of columns severely compromised the structure's integrity. Consistent with this theory, news footage shows cracking and bowing of the building's east wall immediately before the collapse, which began at the penthouse floors. In video of the collapse, taken from the north by CBS News and other news media, the first visible sign of collapse is movement in the east penthouse 8.2 seconds before the north wall began to collapse, which took at least another 7 seconds.

The working hypothesis, released in the June 2004 progress report and reiterated in a June 2007 status update, was that an initial failure in a critical column occurred below the 13th floor, caused by damage from fire and/or debris from the collapse of the two main towers. The collapse progressed vertically up to the east mechanical penthouse. The interior structure was unable to handle the redistributed load, resulting in horizontal progression of the failure across lower floors, particularly the 5th to 7th floors. This resulted in "a disproportionate collapse of the entire structure."

All these explanations are rubbish since the building
collapse at the speed of a free fall.
Any architect or engineer will tell you that
it s a controlled demolition...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Lots of buiding were burnt to death, yet not
a single one did collapse..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZ_GpRLoY0

Seems that a few crackers were enough for WTC7..

 

[Matt1970]

OMG, a 9/11 conspiracy nut. You don't even understand the concept of freefall speed, yet you cling to it like it is some kind of proof of government involvement. You idiot pea-sized brain can't even grasp the concept that there would be miles of det cord all over the place, hundreds of cut beams and witnesses to planting the explosives. Go watch a video on what it takes to demolish a video. You really are retarded. Go away troll.

 

[Jaskalas]

Do most muslims really think Bin Laden was not behind 9/11?

Would your national hero be responsible for a crime? Of course not.

Think tribalism. My tribe can do no wrong, your tribe is evil.

 

[Scotteq]

Would your national hero be responsible for a crime? Of course not.

Think tribalism. My tribe can do no wrong, your tribe is evil.

Much like the garbage that passes for American politics.

 

[xj0hnx]

All these explanations are rubbish since the building
collapse at the speed of a free fall.
Any architect or engineer will tell you that
it s a controlled demolition...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Lots of buiding were burnt to death, yet not
a single one did collapse..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZ_GpRLoY0

Seems that a few crackers were enough for WTC7..

You must have missed the Truther annihilation thread we had a while back.

 

[Abwx]

OMG, a 9/11 conspiracy nut. You don't even understand the concept of freefall speed, yet you cling to it like it is some kind of proof of government involvement. You idiot pea-sized brain can't even grasp the concept that there would be miles of det cord all over the place, hundreds of cut beams and witnesses to planting the explosives. Go watch a video on what it takes to demolish a video. You really are retarded. Go away troll.

Lol, free fall acceleration is a basic formula mastered by any
15 year old student...

Dont take your case as being a generality...

But then, find me a single other exemple of a building
collapsing while not really burning...
Surely that you know better than specialists on this matter..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I

Ho, laws of physics are different in america,
that is, a singularity in the mathematical sense
of the term...

 

[Abwx]

You must have missed the Truther annihilation thread we had a while back.

Lol....I knew i came too late in this forum, but still,
there s quite a lot of easily entertainable people...

 

[Atreus21]

Tell us why WTC 7 did collapse....

Evil monkeys dynamited it in an unrelated but amazingly coincidental incident.

 

[Abwx]

Evil monkeys dynamited it in an unrelated but amazingly coincidental incident.

All you are left is trolling since you are unable
to bring the slightest point about the debated matter....

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Truthers<Deathers<Birthers<0

 

[Kadarin]

its like getting black people to admit OJ was guilty!

This is a surprisingly apt comparison.

 

[Matt1970]

Lol, free fall acceleration is a basic formula mastered by any
15 year old student...

Dont take your case as being a generality...

But then, find me a single other exemple of a building
collapsing while not really burning...
Surely that you know better than specialists on this matter..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I

Ho, laws of physics are different in america,
that is, a singularity in the mathematical sense
of the term...

You are showing a youtube clip of 1 demolition "expert" saying that WTC7 was demolished when the vast majority of demotion experts say it wasn't. Every demolition expert always comes back to the same conclusion: Why was not one inch of det cord ever recovered or one single cut/drilled beam ever found? Why has not one person from the hundreds and hundreds involved ever come forward with an attack of conscience?

Your theory lacks any proof, logic, intelligence or even common sense.

 

[Atreus21]

All you are left is trolling since you are unable
to bring the slightest point about the debated matter....

I think pointing out that truthers are retarded is an entirely good point to bring into the debated matter.

 

[Abwx]

You are showing a youtube clip of 1 demolition "expert" saying that WTC7 was demolished when the vast majority of demotion experts say it wasn't. Every demolition expert always comes back to the same conclusion: Why was not one inch of det cord ever recovered or one single cut/drilled beam ever found? Why has not one person from the hundreds and hundreds involved ever come forward with an attack of conscience?

Your theory lacks any proof, logic, intelligence or even common sense.

lolz, Danny Jowenko is one of Europe top s expert..
But if you ever googled, you ll see that numerous
US experts/engineer ended supporting this view..

In fact, the only "experts" that support the ill conceived
US gov. standpoint are the ones appointed by this very
same gov.

Google a little rather than parroting your politicians
propaganda....

Remember, we are talking of WTC7..

 

[Abwx]

I think pointing out that truthers are retarded is an entirely good point to bring into the debated matter.

Still trolling ?...
Makes me remember a theater piece of french writer
Moliere that mock an infatuated guy that is surprised
to be told that he s making prose when speaking and
went thinking that he was a poet....

 

[Acanthus]

10 years and mountains of scientific evidence have not convinced the truthers. Nothing will.

Do not engage them, you are only fueling their outbursts of stupidity on the forums.

 

[Abwx]

10 years and mountains of scientific evidence have not convinced the truthers. Nothing will.

Do not engage them, you are only fueling their outbursts of stupidity on the forums.

For i have a formal scientific training, i m not gullible...
Take a book, or wiki., and start studying mathematics
applied to engineering....

 

[Matt1970]

10 years and mountains of scientific evidence have not convinced the truthers. Nothing will.

Do not engage them, you are only fueling their outbursts of stupidity on the forums.

You're right. You can't fix stupid.

 

[xj0hnx]

i m not gullible...

If you think the buildings collapsing on 9/11 were from demolitions ...yes, you are.

 

[routan]

Would your national hero be responsible for a crime? Of course not.

Think tribalism. My tribe can do no wrong, your tribe is evil.

I resent the impression you are trying to convey, of OBL being a national hero to the Muslims.

 

[Abwx]

If you think the buildings collapsing on 9/11 were from demolitions ...yes, you are.

Very very poor response...

I will give you an insight, though...

WTC7 collapsing while stressed with infinitesimal
constraints is like a car crushed on a concrete wall
at 0.001 mph and experiencing a mechanical deformation
equivalent to a collision that would have occured at 500 mph....

 

[Kadarin]

I resent the impression you are trying to convey, of OBL being a national hero to the Muslims.

Regardless of whether you view him as a hero to Muslims, he did the things he did in the name of Islam, a religion that pretty much does not tolerate criticism of itself.

 

[xj0hnx]

Very very poor response...

I will give you an insight, though...

WTC7 collapsing while stressed with infinitesimal
constraints is like a car crushed on a concrete wall
at 0.001 mph and experiencing a mechanical deformation
equivalent to a collision that would have occured at 500 mph....

Go find the last thread, and insert your name in one of the many post that bears your same remedial views, and then read the whole thing and witness why you are not worth going over this same tired, mindless dribble again.