Do liberals live in constant fear

[Atreus21]

That you view certain types of human life as less deserving of protection than others, depending on the circumstance.

...when we are are forced to choose between who will live and who must die, yes I'll agree that we cannot be faulted for prioritizing.

I don't agree, however, that your original analogy was valid. You can't say a situation in which someone must die is analogous to a situation where no one needs to die.

 

[fskimospy]

...when we are are forced to choose between who will live and who must die, yes I'll agree that we cannot be faulted for prioritizing.

I don't agree, however, that your original analogy was valid. You can't say a situation in which someone must die is analogous to a situation where no one needs to die.

Right, it's just a statement that people don't actually view a fertilized embryo as being the same thing as a baby, something that numerous legislatures have tried to pass into law.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of gun owners.

 

[Atreus21]

Right, it's just a statement that people don't actually view a fertilized embryo as being the same thing as a baby, something that numerous legislatures have tried to pass into law.

Would you agree that an embryo is a human being?

 

[fskimospy]

Would you agree that an embryo is a human being?

Absolutely not. I think you can make a good argument that a viable fetus is a human being, but an embryo? Not even close.

 

[nehalem256]

That you view certain types of human life as less deserving of protection than others, depending on the circumstance.

Umm doesn't everybody?

If you had the choice, in your fire scenario, between saving someone who was a cancer researcher and a crack whore would you flip a coin? Or would you save the cancer researcher?

Assuming you would pick the researcher does that mean you should be allowed to murder crack whores?

 

[xBiffx]

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of gun owners.

:thumbsup:

 

[Moonbeam]

It must be hell on the psyche to be the only one who know everyone's problem and yet nobody seems give a rat's ass about your opinion.

Of course you can't know it, but you are the one who is in hell. You do not know the pain you hide from and will not face but I do. You have put your true self inside an armored truck and you call your life there reality.

 

[Midwayman]

It certainly seems like they are afraid of everything. They want big momma government to take care of them and make all their fears go away.

 

[Steeplerot]

Comrade Obama: Are the rainbow drones over rural TX?

Remote pilot: We have the teabaggers in sight Kenya Red. Repeat target aquired.

Comrade Obama: Hold position till you can see the yellow of their beerbellies!

Remote Pilot: Roger that: Commencing gaybombing run.

 

[Moonbeam]

Another important thing to remember about conservatives and this is always a generality, as there are many kinds of conservatives, is that in addition to being logic and science proof, they project. That means, in short, that whatever their dominant concealed prejudices are they will see you as the one that has them and never themselves. So this is another fact that while obvious to anybody else, completely escapes them.

 

[thraashman]

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of gun owners.

I'm only afraid of one thing, spreading stupidity. And it seems with each year that the Republican party makes spreading stupidity a slightly more important part of its platform. The Democrats aren't really trying to fight hard against the spread of stupidity, but at least they're not adding to the problem.

 

[nehalem256]

I'm only afraid of one thing, spreading stupidity. And it seems with each year that the Republican party makes spreading stupidity a slightly more important part of its platform. The Democrats aren't really trying to fight hard against the spread of stupidity, but at least they're not adding to the problem.

So you don't think supporting the bastard children of idiots is contributing to the spreading of stupidity? :hmm:

EDIT: Or as a more obvious example Democrats throwing a fit about requiring the parents of students on welfare to be involved in making sure said students learn.. :hmm:

 

[Paratus]

So you don't think supporting the bastard children of idiots is contributing to the spreading of stupidity? :hmm:

EDIT: Or as a more obvious example Democrats throwing a fit about requiring the parents of students on welfare to be involved in making sure said students learn.. :hmm:

Well intelligence is generally a dominant trait and is selected for via evolution.

The republicans however select for stupidity. So between the bastard children of idiots as you so tactfully put it and Republicans, I'd have to say republicans are dumber.

Your post being exhibit A.

 

[OverVolt]

I actually agree that liberals live in fear more than republicans.

On the guns issue, I trust fellow Americans in general to be responsible. Some are not but I don't take that as representative of the whole. Most guns just collect dust in all honesty.

Liberals are deathly afraid someone "out there" is going to use a gun on them for no reason. They don't trust regular people on the street to do the right thing. Sometimes this is true and thats just life. But overall people are not psychomaniacs.

 

[Abraxas]

Well, one, they've actually done studies on this, one of which was linked to earlier in the thread and found conservatives experience fear more. Two, I find it interesting that gun control is on the list since it seems about 80% of anti-gun control argument around here revolve around fear the government is going to take your guns away if they so much as require convicted mass murders to agree to behave before selling them a machine gun; any and every gun regulation is another sign a mass confiscation is just around the corner.

 

[jackschmittusa]

OverVolt

Any fear of people with guns probably comes the constant exposure to wackjobs on the Right with guns. Take your pick: extremist militias, freaky doomsday preppers, Skinheads, anti-abortions killers, Sovereign Citizens, calls for "Second Amendment remedies", and the list goes on and on.

The American people get constant reminders that there are whole groups of people that are unpredictable in terms of common nature, do not subscribe to rational thought, are guided by ideas derived from faulty logic that is outside of the realm of common understanding, etc..

People that are unpredictable with seemingly random emotional hot buttons are not valued or desired by societys and are usually viewed with a wary eye because safety or danger levels cannot be readily assessed.

 

[umbrella39]

It certainly seems like they are afraid of everything. They want big momma government to take care of them and make all their fears go away.

That makes so much more sense now after reading it a 2nd time... but this time... with my strawman glasses on.

 

[sandorski]

OverVolt

Any fear of people with guns probably comes the constant exposure to wackjobs on the Right with guns. Take your pick: extremist militias, freaky doomsday preppers, Skinheads, anti-abortions killers, Sovereign Citizens, calls for "Second Amendment remedies", and the list goes on and on.

The American people get constant reminders that there are whole groups of people that are unpredictable in terms of common nature, do not subscribe to rational thought, are guided by ideas derived from faulty logic that is outside of the realm of common understanding, etc..

People that are unpredictable with seemingly random emotional hot buttons are not valued or desired by societys and are usually viewed with a wary eye because safety or danger levels cannot be readily assessed.

Excellent points.

 

[boochi]

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of gun owners.

Here we have a girlie man.

 

[Agent11]

Pfft. You shouldn't fear the doomsday prepper, bake him cookies and chat him up so that if someone presses the button one day you can ride out the apocalypse in style.

 

[Agent11]

Comrade Obama: Are the rainbow drones over rural TX?

Remote pilot: We have the teabaggers in sight Kenya Red. Repeat target aquired.

Comrade Obama: Hold position till you can see the yellow of their beerbellies!

Remote Pilot: Roger that: Commencing gaybombing run.

That made me lol.

 

[Texashiker]

Nah, I'm pro-choice and my logic is entirely that it's the woman's body and therefore her choice. That's the beginning and end of it. Nearly all of the things about fetal pain, etc, etc come from anti-choice people.

Then you oppose equal rights?

If the mother can make a decision to whether she wants to be a mom, why cant the father? Why can't men sign away their rights as opposed to making the woman have an abortion?

I'm not afraid of guns. I'm afraid of gun owners.

Then why dont liberals enforce the laws on the books rather than passing more laws?

If a felon is caught in the possession of a firearm it is a federal crime. But very few criminals are prosecuted.

The majority of gun violence is gang related. But yet the proposed gun laws do not address this issue.

Whatever happened to 3 violent crimes and you are sent to prison for life laws? Instead of passing laws that infringe on the law abiding gun owner, why not address the criminals directly?

 

[fskimospy]

Then you oppose equal rights?

If the mother can make a decision to whether she wants to be a mom, why cant the father? Why can't men sign away their rights as opposed to making the woman have an abortion?

As explained many times before I am in favor of exactly equal rights. Each person controls their own body and each person has a responsibility to any offspring they create together.

By the way, you seemed to have abandoned the argument in your OP asking why liberals were passing all those health measures instead of passing health measures. Interesting.

 

[nehalem256]

As explained many times before I am in favor of exactly equal rights. Each person controls their own body and each person has a responsibility to any offspring they create together.

And as explained to you many times before that is a lie because the government passed special laws so that women could abandon their children without the knowledge or consent of the father.

Also, you are pretty clearly cleverly wording things so that technically men and women have the same rights, but practically have very different ones.

I could just as easily say that everyone is equally responsible for all babies that come out of their body. But of course that would be nothing more than clever wording to excuse men of responsibility. Just as yours is nothing more than clever wording to deprive men of the right to control their lives.