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Do liberals live in constant fear

Texashiker

Texashiker

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Lets take good ole bloomberg as an example,

gun control
soda control
tobacco control
saturated fat control
calorie control

What are liberals so afraid of that they have to control everything?

Why cant liberals address more important issues, such as income inequality, health care,,, and other important issues that affect our society? Not saying gun control is not an important issue, but so is keeping terrorist out of this nation.
 
And on the right we have terrorism, drugs, homosexuals, atheists, crime, immigrants, regulations, taxes, etc., ad nauseum. Don't work so hard at being a partisan moron. You're a natural.
 
Troll thread. But...

What I never understood, is that with abortion its the womans right to choose what to do with her body. But when it comes to other things like tobacco and calories, people should not have the right to choose.

I'm not saying the other side is any better. Because most conservatives want personal freedom but then don't want to give the woman the right to choose with abortion.

Just seems really strange. I guess the moral of the story is that each side is full of R-words.
 
Are we now assuming politicians from the respective parties represent the actual feelings of their constituents? Because there is plenty of bullshitery to go around with that one.
 
Bowfinger said:
And on the right we have terrorism, drugs, homosexuals, atheists, crime, immigrants, regulations, taxes, etc., ad nauseum. Don't work so hard at being a partisan moron. You're a natural.
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And if the liberal left would stop fighting, all of those would be fixed.


brandonb said:
Troll thread. But...
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No troll thread.

Look at what happens everytime there is some kind of tragedy, such as sandy hook. Which side goes off the deep end and starts calling for more laws?
 
Texashiker said:
Lets take good ole bloomberg as an example,

gun control
soda control
tobacco control
saturated fat control
calorie control

What are liberals so afraid of that they have to control everything?

Why cant liberals address more important issues, such as income inequality, health care,,, and other important issues that affect our society? Not saying gun control is not an important issue, but so is keeping terrorist out of this nation.
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You just mentioned four things you think liberals are afraid of that directly impact health care in our country and then asked by liberals don't address important issues like health care.
 
Texashiker said:
Lets take good ole bloomberg as an example,

gun control
soda control
tobacco control
saturated fat control
calorie control

What are liberals so afraid of that they have to control everything?

Why cant liberals address more important issues, such as income inequality, health care,,, and other important issues that affect our society? Not saying gun control is not an important issue, but so is keeping terrorist out of this nation.
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And if the lunatic right would stop fighting, all of these would be taken care of? (I don't know what that means, but it seems like you think it's a meaningful response.)
 
brandonb said:
Troll thread. But...

What I never understood, is that with abortion its the womans right to choose what to do with her body. But when it comes to other things like tobacco and calories, people should not have the right to choose.

I'm not saying the other side is any better. Because most conservatives want personal freedom but then don't want to give the woman the right to choose with abortion.

Just seems really strange. I guess the moral of the story is that each side is full of R-words.
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No man or woman should have the right to murder anyone, much less their own child.
 
brandonb said:
I'm not saying the other side is any better. Because most conservatives want personal freedom but then don't want to give the woman the right to choose with abortion.
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How about giving both parents the right to decide if the want to be a parent?

That abortion issue is a good example of what liberalism is all about, rights for women, but no rights for men.
 
Texashiker said:
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Look at what happens everytime there is some kind of tragedy, such as sandy hook. Which side goes off the deep end and starts calling for more laws?
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Yes, because it was "liberals" who invaded Iraq, opened Gitmo, pushed through the "PATRIOT" (sic) Act, and turned TSA Security Theater into the biggest increase in government ever, all thanks to 9/11. You're doubling down on stupid partisanship.
 
Texashiker said:
Instead of saturated fat control, what about providing health care to the needy?

How many hospitals are setup for homeless people, or the working poor?
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The ACA provided the largest single expansion of Medicaid (health care to the needy) in the nation's history. It was fought tooth and nail by conservatives, many of whom are attempting to prevent its implementation in individual states. Since the working poor will now receive free or nearly free health insurance from the government, a specific hospital for the working poor hardly seems necessary.

Do you know what's in the ACA?

EDIT: So to be clear in regards to your OP, liberals are doing exactly what you asked them to do. I bet you fought it when they did though.
 
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Atreus21 said:
No man or woman should have the right to murder anyone, much less their own child.
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Right, but clearly as has been discussed they do not view a fertilized egg as a child. (and fundamentally as I described in my abortion clinic fire analogy, neither does anyone else when push comes to shove)
 
eskimospy said:
The ACA provided the largest single expansion of Medicaid (health care to the needy) in the nation's history.
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What have people like bloomberg done to help the needy? Not with medicare, not with medicaid, what have liberal states done on their own to help those that need it?
 
It really seems that when an American is getting a lot of shit tossed at him, it is acceptable to just ball that shit up and toss it at someone else.
It's the American way
 
Texashiker said:
Lets take good ole bloomberg as an example,

gun control
soda control
tobacco control
saturated fat control
calorie control

What are liberals so afraid of that they have to control everything?

Why cant liberals address more important issues, such as income inequality, health care,,, and other important issues that affect our society? Not saying gun control is not an important issue, but so is keeping terrorist out of this nation.
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Bloomberg is not a liberal. Period. He is a power-tripping statist. He holds almost no liberal views. He made his money as a hypercapitalist and uses his office to promote his new-found puritanism.

I'm a liberal and of your list above the only issue I care about is tobacco control. On that topic I don't care if you smoke day and night. I don't care if you use packs of cigarettes for a night light. But forcing me to breathe your tobacco smoke is assault so smoke in your own space and leave me the hell alone. I also don't want to pay your medical bills so when you develop cancer or ephysema please kill yourself before becoming a burden on society.
 
It is not that bright to confuse "interest in the common good" with fear.

FUD is the common coin of the realm on the Right.

Most of those I know that you would consider belonging to the Left, actually give a shit. It does seem like a futile effort sometimes to be a force for good after too many decades of confronting willful ignorance.

Certainly not all of the efforts in your list of categories represent the best possible solutions, but to completely misunderstand the motivation as fear is stupid. It is a textbook example of living in a bubble where only your beliefs make sense.

If you are unwilling to invest the effort to try to understand others, you are not part of the solution to anything.
 
eskimospy said:
Right, but clearly as has been discussed they do not view a fertilized egg as a child. (and fundamentally as I described in my abortion clinic fire analogy, neither does anyone else when push comes to shove)
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And clearly the right does view it as a child. That seems to be a fact that the left cannot grasp.

And why they think that the only reason to oppose abortion is "hating" women.

Its funny that for people that claim to be open-minded the left is really the most close-minded group of people out there. These are the people that revel in the idea of destroying an old lady who disagrees with them. Certainly sounds like fear to me.
 
IronWing said:
I'm a liberal and of your list above the only issue I care about is tobacco control. On that topic I don't care if you smoke day and night. I don't care if you use packs of cigarettes for a night light. But forcing me to breathe your tobacco smoke is assault so smoke in your own space and leave me the hell alone. I also don't want to pay your medical bills so when you develop cancer or ephysema please kill yourself before becoming a burden on society.
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You do realize that the position you just stated is the exact opposite of liberalism right?

Liberals are those that rejoice in the state paying for other people making themselves a burden on society through their own stupid choices.
 
nehalem256 said:
You do realize that the position you just stated is the exact opposite of liberalism right?

Liberals are those that rejoice in the state paying for other people making themselves a burden on society through their own stupid choices.
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Only in your straw man version of liberalism.
 
nehalem256 said:
And clearly the right does view it as a child. That seems to be a fact that the left cannot grasp.

And why they think that the only reason to oppose abortion is "hating" women.

Its funny that for people that claim to be open-minded the left is really the most close-minded group of people out there. These are the people that revel in the idea of destroying an old lady who disagrees with them. Certainly sounds like fear to me.
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Shocker that you are trying to turn this into how much you hate women again. No thanks.

You have a serious mental issue when it comes to them. I suggest you talk to your Canadian Girlfriend about it.
 
Texashiker said:
What have people like bloomberg done to help the needy? Not with medicare, not with medicaid, what have liberal states done on their own to help those that need it?
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Okay so now you're doing two wrong things.

First, you're moving the goalposts. Originally it was 'why don't liberals do this?' Then when shown that liberals do exactly what you asked about, you changed it to 'why don't these specific liberals do this?'. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Secondly, it's bizarre that you would claim Bloomberg the ultra-capitalist, elected-as-a-Republican-now-independent mayor of NYC is a liberal. He's not.
 
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