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Do guys really get raped by women ?

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Re: legal elements of rape, I'm a little rusty on my crim law but here's what I remember. I believe at common law, resistance was one of the elements the prosecution had to prove. Force and lack of consent are still required elements in modern jurisdictions but if the victim is incapacitated then the force element doesn't apply. There may still be traces of common law hanging around so I couldn't say for sure.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix

if the rape statute requires resistance and you do not resist it is not rape.
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Wouldn't that mean date rape drugs are legal? If the person is asleep, they can't really resist now can they.
 
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Balt

:roll:

I believe you "attacked" me, remember?

If there are states with laws that allow for sex with lack of consent (just in case it wasn't clear, consent doesn't have to be verbal), then maybe they should change them? I never claimed to be an expert, but if wish for all of us to believe that you are one, post some facts or quit dismissing everyone else as "dense"
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read my posts, i've been posting them, you just don't get it. hence, you are dense. it isn't an attack, its merely the truth because you've come in with your preconceived notion of what a rape is and you refused to be disabused of that notion where incorrect!
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Main Entry: 3rape
Function: noun
1 : an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force
2 : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent -- compare SEXUAL ASSAULT, STATUTORY RAPE
3 : an outrageous violation

That is from www.m-w.com. It's not my preconceived notion, jerkoff. If you get your head out of your ass and realize that your definition and the definition of a number of states that you can't list or name isn't the only definition of rape, then you will see that what I said was not incorrect.

"Rape doesn't mean resistance, it means lack of consent."

I never said "In every state of the United States, by statute, rape does not require resistance, only a lack of consent"

As for the "facts" you've posted, none of them include a listing of any states that supposedly have the statute written the way you say it is. I don't doubt that what you are saying is true, but if you are going to call me out on a technicality, why shouldn't I do the same to you?

Don't be a fvckhead. I 100% agree with what he is saying, because there are laws on the books that say exactly what he is saying. It varies by state, and he wasn't saying he agreed, but rather what the statute said. READ the post next time instead of popping off about what rape is/isn't. He's talking legal definition specifically.
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Thanks, your opinion is insightful and helpful, even though you didn't say anything that resembles a fact.
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HAHAHAHA. Man, you're so vacuous and obtuse that you can't even read. Have a good one bro, and try to become literate.
 
Originally posted by: Venix
Could you give an example of a state where having sex with someone who's unconscious isn't considered rape?
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OK . . .

your partner falls asleep during sex. 😛




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Originally posted by: Balt

"Rape doesn't mean resistance, it means lack of consent."

I never said "In every state of the United States, by statute, rape does not require resistance, only a lack of consent"
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and i said "if resistance is required" before that, so you're still wrong!

hell, there may not be any states that require resistance anymore, but since i said "if" that means we're dealing with a hypothtical here anyway, and i don't need to say that specific stat X follows that rule!
 
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: ElFenix

if the rape statute requires resistance and you do not resist it is not rape.
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Wouldn't that mean date rape drugs are legal? If the person is asleep, they can't really resist now can they.
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if they incapacitate you they know there isn't consent, and that is generally a rape.
 
jesus balt, you're really a fvcking moron aren't you? do you understand that the US has 50 states and those 50 states have different laws as to what constitutes rape? Rape is not a federal offense.
 
Maybe in a rare case, but basically no. Few women are strong enough to overpower a man to the extent that they can have their way with him in this manner, and unlike a man raping a woman, for a woman to rape a man (unless it's in the back), she'll need to get him erect anyway.
 
I was completely taken advantage of one time in college and it was so not cool. Dude this girl raped me by definition in the dorms b/c I told her to stop and she didn't and I was to incapacitated to physically stop her. She was one of the worst lays I've ever had (looks wise at least I don't really recall the intercourse) and she scarred me for life. She knew I wanted nothing to do with her too b/c she was constantly making advances at me and I was constantly denying her!

Ohhhh, the agony!!!! 🙁
 
I don't know about you guys but if some fugly chick wants to have her way with me, chanced are that I won't have a boner. Ugly women = limp dick = no sex.
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Something of this sort happened to me not too long ago. I didn't feel raped...just po'd.
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right, but while she was doing her business, didn't you get pleasured in one way or another ?
 
Originally posted by: Nanotech
I was completely taken advantage of one time in college and it was so not cool. Dude this girl raped me by definition in the dorms b/c I told her to stop and she didn't and I was to incapacitated to physically stop her. She was one of the worst lays I've ever had (looks wise at least I don't really recall the intercourse) and she scarred me for life. She knew I wanted nothing to do with her too b/c she was constantly making advances at me and I was constantly denying her!

Ohhhh, the agony!!!! 🙁
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Dude, that's not being taken advantage of, that's RAPE. Jesus christ, people, learn to stand up for yourselves, if you can't physically do so legally.
 
I just wanted to give my story to you guys.

I WAS raped. I got in this f@cked up relationship with this girl named Sarah. I went on one date with her then all of the sudden she's all over me like we're dating. We're chilling in my room and she wraps her arms around me and says "you're my boyfriend, right?" So being on the spot I was like "Yea-sure". A month later I'm trying desperately to find ways to make her back off me w/o me dumping her. One night I'm chilling with some buddies at my apt. drinking. She wants to come over so I'm like "whatever". (I was actually really rude to her because I just wanted her to get the point.) Well she comes over and realizes how drunk I am. She tells my friends that she thinks that they should leave and let me get some rest/pass out. I wake up and find myself half naked and she told me what happened the next day. The f@cked up thing was that I was a virgin before that. It also made things even more f@cked up that I wanted to make her get lost.

There you have it. I was taken advantage of by a girl. I would never have wanted to have sex with her, especially lose my virginity to her.
 
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Something of this sort happened to me not too long ago. I didn't feel raped...just po'd.
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right, but while she was doing her business, didn't you get pleasured in one way or another ?
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until I woke up.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: weirdichi
Usually when a guy gets rapes, it's by other men.
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Stats to back this up? I would counter this just by virtue of hte shame and disbelief associated with a man's claim of being raped by a woman, I would wager that there are many more cases than will ever be reported.
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I read that somewhere before, but it may have changed. Or it might have been a guest speaker I remember talking about it. Here's more info.

"So, even in the 39% of attacks that are reported to police, there is only a 16.3% chance the rapist will end up in prison." Such a sad statistic.
 
Originally posted by: Hammer
jesus balt, you're really a fvcking moron aren't you? do you understand that the US has 50 states and those 50 states have different laws as to what constitutes rape? Rape is not a federal offense.
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Where does he say that it did? It sounds to me like he was arguing the literal definition of the word rather than the legal -- outside of a courtroom and outside of a legal textbook, rape can happen without resistance, but it can't happen with consent on both parties' part.

Not trying to stir anything up, just trying to clarify the debate.
 
Originally posted by: MangoTBG
I just wanted to give my story to you guys.

I WAS raped. I got in this f@cked up relationship with this girl named Sarah. I went on one date with her then all of the sudden she's all over me like we're dating. We're chilling in my room and she wraps her arms around me and says "you're my boyfriend, right?" So being on the spot I was like "Yea-sure". A month later I'm trying desperately to find ways to make her back off me w/o me dumping her. One night I'm chilling with some buddies at my apt. drinking. She wants to come over so I'm like "whatever". (I was actually really rude to her because I just wanted her to get the point.) Well she comes over and realizes how drunk I am. She tells my friends that she thinks that they should leave and let me get some rest/pass out. I wake up and find myself half naked and she told me what happened the next day. The f@cked up thing was that I was a virgin before that. It also made things even more f@cked up that I wanted to make her get lost.

There you have it. I was taken advantage of by a girl. I would never have wanted to have sex with her, especially lose my virginity to her.
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Dude, that's rape.

Good god, why don't you guys report this sh!t to the police?!
 
One guy climbing a mountain, and another guy receiving oral by an ugly fat women, both have the same thought in mind ...

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DON'T LOOK DOWN!

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Originally posted by: weirdichi
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: weirdichi
Usually when a guy gets rapes, it's by other men.
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Stats to back this up? I would counter this just by virtue of hte shame and disbelief associated with a man's claim of being raped by a woman, I would wager that there are many more cases than will ever be reported.
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I read that somewhere before, but it may have changed. Or it might have been a guest speaker I remember talking about it. Here's more info.

"So, even in the 39% of attacks that are reported to police, there is only a 16.3% chance the rapist will end up in prison." Such a sad statistic.
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I don't see any mention on that page of the gender of perpetrators in male rape. Some interesting stats, though.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: MangoTBG
I just wanted to give my story to you guys.

I WAS raped. I got in this f@cked up relationship with this girl named Sarah. I went on one date with her then all of the sudden she's all over me like we're dating. We're chilling in my room and she wraps her arms around me and says "you're my boyfriend, right?" So being on the spot I was like "Yea-sure". A month later I'm trying desperately to find ways to make her back off me w/o me dumping her. One night I'm chilling with some buddies at my apt. drinking. She wants to come over so I'm like "whatever". (I was actually really rude to her because I just wanted her to get the point.) Well she comes over and realizes how drunk I am. She tells my friends that she thinks that they should leave and let me get some rest/pass out. I wake up and find myself half naked and she told me what happened the next day. The f@cked up thing was that I was a virgin before that. It also made things even more f@cked up that I wanted to make her get lost.

There you have it. I was taken advantage of by a girl. I would never have wanted to have sex with her, especially lose my virginity to her.
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Dude, that's rape.

Good god, why don't you guys report this sh!t to the police?!
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Probably for the same reason why a lot of women don't report rape...
 
Originally posted by: Hammer
jesus balt, you're really a fvcking moron aren't you? do you understand that the US has 50 states and those 50 states have different laws as to what constitutes rape? Rape is not a federal offense.
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Quoting myself from 05/05/2004 01:35 AM:

I never said "In every state of the United States, by statute, rape does not require resistance, only a lack of consent"

As for the "facts" you've posted, none of them include a listing of any states that supposedly have the statute written the way you say it is. I don't doubt that what you are saying is true, but if you are going to call me out on a technicality, why shouldn't I do the same to you?
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Thanks for playing.
 
Yes, guys can be raped. Most of the time it will include some sort of physically debilitating drug, such as being very drunk, put to sleep, unconcious, etc. Sometimes the man will just be asleep when it happens. I doubt there are many cases where 3 girls mug a guy in an ally way and gang rape him.
 
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