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Do girls that normally reject you become touchy feely? *FINALLY AN UPDATE!*
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bwahahahaha she wants you emotionally and intellectually, so she touches you alot....
SANE people would start talking to you, and getting closer to you emotionally and intellectually.
WOMEN on the other hand, touch you more and make oyu think they want the exact opposite of what they REALLY want....
HAHAHAHA I also love the first bit.
So your saying that, until she says she wants to be involved with him she can touch him all she wants, but he can't touch back. Right, so, by that logic (or complete lack thereof) she could go down on him tomorrow but because she didn't say "yeah I am into you" he couldn't do anything back, because remember, he said hes ok with that, she didn't however, so he would be violating her if he made any advances back.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my God just thinking about the way women malfunction makes me want to kill something....
NinjaGnome
Platinum Member
Luvly I dont think you are making any sense. All girls are different and if he doesnt want to make a physical move then at least he can put the moves on her verbally which no has really considered and im sure he hasn't tried. This is the way I have gotten all the girls i've been with. You just have to be able to talk, then when your good and confident that she wont think ill of something physical then make that move and it all works out. If you think she wont think ill of that physical move then do it, dont think about it even twice just do it. 😀
"Oh and from personal EXPERIENCE I know thats a heaping load of BS."
Someone's had a terrible experience in his life and feels compelled to turn against all women.
Whatever you do, don't mess with me.
[NinjaGnome:] "Luvly I dont think you are making any sense. All girls are different and if he doesnt want to make a physical move then at least he can put the moves on her verbally which no has really considered and im sure he hasn't tried. This is the way I have gotten all the girls i've been with. You just have to be able to talk, then when your good and confident that she wont think ill of something physical then make that move and it all works out. If you think she wont think ill of that physical move then do it, dont think about it even twice just do it."
Oh I see . . . I'm not making sense, yet you state something there that goes along with my reasoning. You in fact brought a good idea (i.e., verbal 'move'). I have no objection to that, for as long as she does not herself object to it. But I'm supposing that the original poster has made such efforts before. Again, I should point out that making an analogy of all women with a case of a woman who speaks of being "alone" or wanting to find herself is a huge mistake. It's a huge thing when a woman speaks of being alone. It says a lot about her personality, and I can relate to it. As a woman who has made such statement before to someone who was interested in me, I feel I'm entitled to express my opinion as anyone else. Ever heard of opinion, hon'? Well, that's what my post was . . . an opinion from my perspective as a woman, not some rubber stamped truth. As such, I stand by my words and remain of that opinion.
In this case, kissing is clearly different from having hand to hand contact with someone of an opposite sex when touching a mouse. It's certainly different from having eye contact and staring for a while, as it is some people's nature to stare boldly and yet they have no feelings toward the person they stare at. Holding on to some part of him, not his nuts, is very different from kissing. These are simply not sufficient situations to conclude that someone is interested in more than friendship, especially when the person has explicitly stated that she is not interested [at the moment] because she's in search of herself. It could be that Chrono subconsciously started to note these things after he had received the rejection response from her. And again, having feelings for someone does not mean that one wants to be with that person. Trust me, there are many female friends that you would find who grow fond of guys as friends and would do many things you would categorise as more than friendship, whereas it is not indeed the case.
How about this to settle the whole matter: Chrono, do as suggested by most people here. Go ahead and kiss her. If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to take note of it for any future references. If I'm absolutely right, each of you who held that position (i.e., kissing her or physically advancing) decide what you will do to make up for your false calls.
Someone's had a terrible experience in his life and feels compelled to turn against all women.
[NinjaGnome:] "Luvly I dont think you are making any sense. All girls are different and if he doesnt want to make a physical move then at least he can put the moves on her verbally which no has really considered and im sure he hasn't tried. This is the way I have gotten all the girls i've been with. You just have to be able to talk, then when your good and confident that she wont think ill of something physical then make that move and it all works out. If you think she wont think ill of that physical move then do it, dont think about it even twice just do it."
Oh I see . . . I'm not making sense, yet you state something there that goes along with my reasoning. You in fact brought a good idea (i.e., verbal 'move'). I have no objection to that, for as long as she does not herself object to it. But I'm supposing that the original poster has made such efforts before. Again, I should point out that making an analogy of all women with a case of a woman who speaks of being "alone" or wanting to find herself is a huge mistake. It's a huge thing when a woman speaks of being alone. It says a lot about her personality, and I can relate to it. As a woman who has made such statement before to someone who was interested in me, I feel I'm entitled to express my opinion as anyone else. Ever heard of opinion, hon'? Well, that's what my post was . . . an opinion from my perspective as a woman, not some rubber stamped truth. As such, I stand by my words and remain of that opinion.
In this case, kissing is clearly different from having hand to hand contact with someone of an opposite sex when touching a mouse. It's certainly different from having eye contact and staring for a while, as it is some people's nature to stare boldly and yet they have no feelings toward the person they stare at. Holding on to some part of him, not his nuts, is very different from kissing. These are simply not sufficient situations to conclude that someone is interested in more than friendship, especially when the person has explicitly stated that she is not interested [at the moment] because she's in search of herself. It could be that Chrono subconsciously started to note these things after he had received the rejection response from her. And again, having feelings for someone does not mean that one wants to be with that person. Trust me, there are many female friends that you would find who grow fond of guys as friends and would do many things you would categorise as more than friendship, whereas it is not indeed the case.
How about this to settle the whole matter: Chrono, do as suggested by most people here. Go ahead and kiss her. If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to take note of it for any future references. If I'm absolutely right, each of you who held that position (i.e., kissing her or physically advancing) decide what you will do to make up for your false calls.
luvly: I didn't read your whole response but when she says, that she's in search of herself, that actually means she's not friggin interessted, but she still likes to "play" with him or how someone said, she needs an emotional tampon. MOST women can't be straight when it comes to the "what you think about a relationship?"-question. They invent something so they mean they don't hurt us. What's a more comfortable answer (in other words, which sounds "nicer"?): I'm in the search of myself or No, forget about it?
To tell you the truth I've been in a relationship EXACTLY what your going through. They just want to be friends. Trust me. She still does that now ever since last year. After she tells me she doesn't want to be in a relationship, she gets all friendly with me. IT CONFUSES THE HELL OUT OF MEN DAMN IT! But that is all it is, just friends.
yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
Sheesh, it's pretty easy (well for someone who's been there). She wants you just as a friend, but doesn't want you to disappear totally from her life because she likes the attention. Which is what 80% of the previous repliers already said.
Whoever said go try and make her jealous is INSANE. That has never worked.
Lastly, don't take advice about women from women. They try to apply logic and reason to the things women do, but this cannot be done. Stick with us, your brothers, who have taken those bullet holes to the heart already and lived to tell the tale.
heheh LMAO at the posts in this thread. luvly you know I think highly of you and your relationship advice but I've still just gotta say:
I think that this thread is a perfect example of my personal philosophy on women: Every woman is capable of being completely illogical. The most logical women I know, including some very good friends of mine, can at times be completely unfathomable. They'll give reasons, but those reasons won't make sense. YOU CAN NEVER APPLY LOGIC TO A WOMAN PROBLEM. I'm not saying that women are *always* illogical, but every single one of them can be, especially when it comes to things like this (i.e. men and their feelings for them and what they want men to do). Most guys at least will admit when they don't know what they want. But women won't, because they can't even admit it to themselves. Instead they'll do one thing one minute, and something else the next, and they'll have some sort of justification for both. I've seen this happen time and time again. I've been on the receiving end, and I've seen it happen to my friends. In most cases I was actually fairly good friends with the female involved, and she would talk with me about it and I really wouldn't be able to understand. Occasionally the girl's excuse would be "I was just being a bitch". WTF is that?! So you're a moody bitch, and that gives you the right to jerk this guy around? Jeeze that pisses me off. (BTW this girl often refers to herself as a bitch, so I'm not just being snide here.)
So..... I would take luvly's advice, not because it makes sense (because I don't think it does), but I do think that it's appropriate for the situation and it's probably the same way that the girl in this situation would look at it. I know a lot of guys here are all macho and saying just kiss her or whatever, and yes that does have its rational appeal, and it would have worked just fine 100 years ago and it's how things should be IMO, but nowadays gender relations are so fvcked up that nobody knows which end is up and who's expecting what. Behavior has changed, and expectations of others' behavior have changed as well. God I long for the Anna Karenina and Pride & Prejudice days, when a few evening visits to the family parlor were enough to make the girl expect a proposal of marriage. So simple, so easy. I know there are those who disagree with me and say that those were essentially arranged marriages (which I disagree with -- both participants always had the option of saying no), and besides my disagreement with that assessment, I have to say what's really wrong with that? I wish to God that my mom would find me a wife so that I didn't have to worry about it. Hell, my mom probably knows what I need in a wife a lot better than I do anyway. And courtship is essentially a random process nowadays, so I really don't see the difference anyway. In one case, it's your parents and your social status who determine what potential mates you meet, and in the other it's a random bunch of occurances like who you happen to sit next to on the subway or who happens to come into your work one day. I'd rather have an intelligent, directed process to find a mate than leave it up to the whims of fate.
Okay, I kind of went off on a tangent there. Sorry. I needed to vent. 😀 Been doing that a lot lately, I'm under a lot of stress 🙁:frown: Oh and you'll notice that my advice (11/06 2:10 PM) was essentially the same as luvly's, just with a different spin 😉
I think that this thread is a perfect example of my personal philosophy on women: Every woman is capable of being completely illogical. The most logical women I know, including some very good friends of mine, can at times be completely unfathomable. They'll give reasons, but those reasons won't make sense. YOU CAN NEVER APPLY LOGIC TO A WOMAN PROBLEM. I'm not saying that women are *always* illogical, but every single one of them can be, especially when it comes to things like this (i.e. men and their feelings for them and what they want men to do). Most guys at least will admit when they don't know what they want. But women won't, because they can't even admit it to themselves. Instead they'll do one thing one minute, and something else the next, and they'll have some sort of justification for both. I've seen this happen time and time again. I've been on the receiving end, and I've seen it happen to my friends. In most cases I was actually fairly good friends with the female involved, and she would talk with me about it and I really wouldn't be able to understand. Occasionally the girl's excuse would be "I was just being a bitch". WTF is that?! So you're a moody bitch, and that gives you the right to jerk this guy around? Jeeze that pisses me off. (BTW this girl often refers to herself as a bitch, so I'm not just being snide here.)
So..... I would take luvly's advice, not because it makes sense (because I don't think it does), but I do think that it's appropriate for the situation and it's probably the same way that the girl in this situation would look at it. I know a lot of guys here are all macho and saying just kiss her or whatever, and yes that does have its rational appeal, and it would have worked just fine 100 years ago and it's how things should be IMO, but nowadays gender relations are so fvcked up that nobody knows which end is up and who's expecting what. Behavior has changed, and expectations of others' behavior have changed as well. God I long for the Anna Karenina and Pride & Prejudice days, when a few evening visits to the family parlor were enough to make the girl expect a proposal of marriage. So simple, so easy. I know there are those who disagree with me and say that those were essentially arranged marriages (which I disagree with -- both participants always had the option of saying no), and besides my disagreement with that assessment, I have to say what's really wrong with that? I wish to God that my mom would find me a wife so that I didn't have to worry about it. Hell, my mom probably knows what I need in a wife a lot better than I do anyway. And courtship is essentially a random process nowadays, so I really don't see the difference anyway. In one case, it's your parents and your social status who determine what potential mates you meet, and in the other it's a random bunch of occurances like who you happen to sit next to on the subway or who happens to come into your work one day. I'd rather have an intelligent, directed process to find a mate than leave it up to the whims of fate.
Okay, I kind of went off on a tangent there. Sorry. I needed to vent. 😀 Been doing that a lot lately, I'm under a lot of stress 🙁:frown: Oh and you'll notice that my advice (11/06 2:10 PM) was essentially the same as luvly's, just with a different spin 😉
Who knows. I just know one thing for sure. There is no way i will let a girl touch me inless its to get papers for work or anything i have to do. If they touch me somewhere i don't want i am going to court. i don't want money either. I just want jail time or something for that person. They have to learn you do the crime you pay the time. That goes for anyone to.
This goes for other people to. I mean you have a right not to want to be touched in any of those ways. To shake a hand, get papers from somewhere, and anything like that is fine i am talking about the ways when people just do it for no reason.
This goes for other people to. I mean you have a right not to want to be touched in any of those ways. To shake a hand, get papers from somewhere, and anything like that is fine i am talking about the ways when people just do it for no reason.
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