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Do Eurpoeans Look up to America

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HAL9000 said:
Certainly does. I love them. 🙂
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So maybe the US is not the culturally devoid gun crazed shithole that you love to think it to be? Seems like many of your stereotypes are constantly proved wrong, maybe time to revisit any remaining ones?

This certainly goes both ways too, the stereotypical view of England that some in the US has might not be accurate either.
 
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The other thing that makes us pretty "disjointed" if that's the term HAL wants to use is that our climate & geography is wildly different across the US and with that comes different lifestyles and attitudes. California alone has more geographical uniqueness and climates than many countries combined. The desert southwest, semi-tropical south Florida, flat and boring Midwest, heavily forested upper midwest, mountain ranges of Colorado, Montana, and Utah, white sand gulf coast states. Ect. These regions add their own "flavor" to the people there further diluting any national homogeny.
 
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The other thing that makes us pretty "disjointed" if that's the term HAL wants to use is that our climate & geography is wildly different across the US and with that comes different lifestyles and attitudes. California alone has more geographical uniqueness and climates than many countries combined. The desert southwest, semi-tropical south Florida, flat and boring Midwest, heavily forested upper midwest, mountain ranges of Colorado, Montana, and Utah, white sand gulf coast states. Ect. These regions add their own "flavor" to the people there further diluting any national homogeny.
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Good point, and reminds me of something I wanted to ask others recently.

Washington state has more unique geography/climates than any other state that I am aware of.

1) Marine - sea level areas along the coast, etc.
2) Sound - Puget Sound
3) Rain Forest - Olympic Peninsula
4) Volcano/Mountains - Mt St. Helens, Mt Rainier, Mt Adams, etc
5) Major river - Columbia
6) Desert - many don't realize that parts of eastern WA could be confused with Arizona if you were to show a photo of it to someone
7) Alpine areas between mountains
8) Wine & Agricultural areas of SE WA
9) San Juan Islands
10) Old growth forests
11) ??? probably missing something else too

I am there are some other states (OR?) that have a plethora of unique areas, but what are they? I am not trying to make a "my state is better than yours" post, those are stupid but I have always been fascinated by this. Can't wait to someday do my 50 state tour.
 
SphinxnihpS said:
Equal capaicty to us is nuclear capability. If we have a war with an enemy of equal capability, it will not be conventional no matter how much you wish on stars.
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that's BS. we fought a cold war with an "equal capacity" counterpart for 30+ years.

since neither side wants to get into the actual slug-match with nukes, both sides will tend to fight proxy wars. proxy wars are where our current style of carriers and planes are the most important.

in terms of a nuke match, both sides are screwed anyways. and the rest of the world too, for that matter.
 
Fayd said:
that's BS. we fought a cold war with an "equal capacity" counterpart for 30+ years.

since neither side wants to get into the actual slug-match with nukes, both sides will tend to fight proxy wars. proxy wars are where our current style of carriers and planes are the most important.

in terms of a nuke match, both sides are screwed anyways. and the rest of the world too, for that matter.
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LMFAO! Enjoy your Teflon walk. ...war by proxy! I'm going to run down to the local grade school tomorrow and grab some kid out of the special needs class to argue with you by proxy.

The last equal enemy we fought was Japan. Obviously by the end of that, we had no equals. We didn't fight the USSR, and we ran away from China in Korea, and they were not even equal yet.
 
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SphinxnihpS said:
Equal capaicty to us is nuclear capability. If we have a war with an enemy of equal capability, it will not be conventional no matter how much you wish on stars.
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ICBMs (ballistic) and Cruise Missiles (GPS guided) are effective against fixed targets. Ships are mobile by their very nature. So how are you going to get close enough to nuke a ship/submarine with a guided missile except from another ship/submarine? An Aircraft? But wait!! To get an aircraft into the middle of the ocean you need.. a... ship....


You're also completely ignoring the fact that nobody (except bat sh*t crazy terrorists) will use nukes because they know damned well that within an hour there will be a smoking pile of fused rubble where their country used to be. If you're not going to use Nukes, then you have a conventional war.

Sorry - But your argument is based on the same kind of misguided logic that had the USA deploy fighter aircraft with no gun because "we have Air to Air guided missiles, so guns on fighters are obsolete". We made that mistake once (F4 Phantom), ended up putting a gun in an external pod as a temporary fix, and then we *never* made that mistake again. Even an F22 Raptor, which was designed to attack from stealth with missiles, has a gun.
 
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