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Do conservatives act this way?

Atreus21

Atreus21

Lifer
A simple question:

Conservatives may be no different than liberals from harboring a secret liking of prominent members of the opposition dying off, but do they throw parties to commemorate the event?

This is not a rhetorical question. If someone can give me an example of it I'll take it.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/455054/20130409/thatcher-death-party.htm

Revellers in Brixton staged a street party to celebrate Margaret Thatcher's death, culminating in arrests and an attack on a local charity shop.

Around 100 hundred people were out on the streets to celebrate the death of former the former prime minister, whose death from a stroke was announced on Monday.

A board at the famous Ritzy cinema in Windrush Square was hijacked by partygoers who swapped the letters to read 'Margaret Thatcher's Dead.'

Smashed glass was strewn on the street after the window of charity shop Barnardos was kicked in during ugly scenes.

Police officers trying to keep order were attacked, with extra numbers drafted in to stop revellers spilling out on to the roads and causing traffic delays.

Two women were arrested on suspicion of burglary and spent the night in cells after Barnardos was targeted during celebrations.

IBTimes UK reporter Ewan Palmer was at the scene. He said: "There was the notion that this morbid celebration has been planned in thousands of people's heads for more than 30 years.

"Police stood by and watched as more and more people arrived with their drink and banners mocking her death. Shouts of 'Maggie, Maggie, Maggie! dead, dead, dead!" rang around gleefully.

"Chalk was handed out so people could graffiti their own message on the ground and surrounding walls.

"There were even two guys playing double bass and acoustic guitar in the crowd for a singalong. At the start of the evening, the whole thing resembled a middle-class music festival more than a raucous demo.

"Almost inevitably after a few hours of people drinking in the streets, this escalated into scenes of unrest between people and riot police, resulting in arrests and even serious injury."

The revellers downed alcohol and brandished placards reading "The bitch is dead" and 'Rejoice Thatcher is dead.' Many revellers appeared younger than the 23 years which have passed since Thatcher left office.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "Police dealt with a group of approximately 100 people in Brixton who caused low-level disorder including throwing missiles at officers.

"In order to protect the community and to ensure the highways remained clear, extra officers were deployed.

"Two women were arrested after being found inside a shop in Brixton. They remain in custody."
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Conservatives don't. Asshats do, and unfortunately, they're found all over the political spectrum.

Ted Kennedy
 
There are probably some Conservatives who are a tiny majority that act this way. But the vast majority of Conservatives dont act this way and have the decency to behave like human beings and not like animals.

We often see left with so much hatred and intolerance and this just shows that. Everyone involved are all pathetic excuses for human beings and pieces of shit.
 
sixone said:
Conservatives don't. Asshats do, and unfortunately, they're found all over the political spectrum.

Ted Kennedy
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True, but conservatives and liberals both have (one would think) equal shares of asshats. For that reason, you'd think asshats from both sides throw parties when members of the opposition die. Is that the case?
 
Atreus21 said:
True, but conservatives and liberals both have (one would think) equal shares of asshats. For that reason, you'd think asshats from both sides throw parties when members of the opposition die. Is that the case?
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Probably. It just depends on the amount of media coverage the death parties get.
 
Atreus21 said:
True, but conservatives and liberals both have (one would think) equal shares of asshats. For that reason, you'd think asshats from both sides throw parties when members of the opposition die. Is that the case?
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Again. See Ted Kennedy's passing. Plenty of results in a quick google search of the right rejoicing. Both sides have their share of assholes.
 
FallenHero said:
Probably. It just depends on the amount of media coverage the death parties get.
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Fair enough, but one would think there'd be examples of it somewhere. There's no shortage of prominent leftist deaths. I can't find any news of much celebration when Ted Kennedy died, or Chavez.

To be fair, Thatcher seems to be the only prominent conservative whose death sparked celebrations by liberals. I don't see much evidence of celebration when Reagan died, for example.

UPDATE: I found that Andrew Breitbart had some nasty attacks on Kennedy after his death, as well as some by other less prominent individuals. I guess the question becomes then:

Is there any substantive difference between insulting the dead and throwing a party to insult the dead?
 
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I think it's just a British thing. If I lived in England I think I'd have to take any opportunity I could find to throw a good party.
 
People are not throwing parties because "the opposition" died.

People are throwing parties because they blame her for high unemployment and overall lower quality of life for the majority of the UK. They blame her for destroying the middle class.

Essentially, she is blamed for ruining millions of lives. If she is guilty of any of those crimes against humanity, then of course her death should be cheered.
 
Atreus21 said:
Fair enough, but one would think there'd be examples of it somewhere. There's no shortage of prominent leftist deaths. I can't find any news of much celebration when Ted Kennedy died, or Chavez.

To be fair, Thatcher seems to be the only prominent conservative whose death sparked celebrations by liberals. I don't see much evidence of celebration when Reagan died, for example.
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For some reason there was much more hatred of Thatcher than Reagan. They also did the same to Andrew Breitbart.
 
Atreus21 said:
True, but conservatives and liberals both have (one would think) equal shares of asshats. For that reason, you'd think asshats from both sides throw parties when members of the opposition die. Is that the case?
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That's two separate questions. Yes, asshats from both sides celebrate disrespectfully when a member of the opposition dies.

Whether both sides have equal shares of asshats is debatable. It's hard to separate quantity and volume.
 
Incorruptible said:
For some reason there was much more hatred of Thatcher than Reagan. They also did the same to Andrew Breitbart.
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Breitbart garnered the attention he did because of how he acted when Kennedy passed away. He was vile and hateful very publicly in celebrating Kennedy's death. He reaped what he sowed there.
 
If Bill Clinton died there would probably be people celebrating. But I would hesitate to even call them conservatives. They'd most likely just be morons. It's not like Bill Clinton signed more than one or two bills that Bush would have vetoed. Fact is they are 99% the same so it is pointless to champion one party over the other to the point of celebrating the death of one. But people do that sort of stupid stuff just like they celebrate when a famous football player on a archrival team breaks his back and never plays again.
 
thraashman said:
I think it's just a British thing. If I lived in England I think I'd have to take any opportunity I could find to throw a good party.
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I was about to say something similar in that "It's a british thing." Politics in Britain seems to be nastier even than in the US.
 
I don't think Thatcher compares to any politician we have over here in the 'States in terms of the polarization she created and inspired.

We tend to think of the GWB and Obama years as ones of immense partisanship and high polarization, but it pales in comparison to Thatcher's UK.
 
This is less a liberal thing and more a European thing.

In America, we cheer the deaths of terrorists (in my area thousands of students took over main street and mobbed around singing patriotic songs all night when OBL died). In Europe, they give the same treatment to to their politicians.

It goes back to national identity. A lot of Americans identify themselves as American, a lot of Europeans, depending on the nation, feel much less national affinity and in some cases outright hostility. According to one of my history professors, as a native Spaniard, one of the things that shocked him most when he came over in the late 80s was American flags everywhere and that people at football games were silently respectful of the national anthem. Apparently in Spain, flying the national flag over your doorway or something would mark you as ultra-conservative/borderline fascist.
 
sm625 said:
If Bill Clinton died there would probably be people celebrating. But I would hesitate to even call them conservatives. They'd most likely just be morons. It's not like Bill Clinton signed more than one or two bills that Bush would have vetoed. Fact is they are 99% the same so it is pointless to champion one party over the other to the point of celebrating the death of one. But people do that sort of stupid stuff just like they celebrate when a famous football player on a archrival team breaks his back and never plays again.
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That's a good point.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Breitbart garnered the attention he did because of how he acted when Kennedy passed away. He was vile and hateful very publicly in celebrating Kennedy's death. He reaped what he sowed there.
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Breitbart was wrong for attacking Kennedy. There are no excuses for attacking Kennedy like that and I condemned those attacks. I suspect he had a problem with Kennedy because of the whole Chappaquiddick incident

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident
 
BurnItDwn said:
People are not throwing parties because "the opposition" died.

People are throwing parties because they blame her for high unemployment and overall lower quality of life for the majority of the UK. They blame her for destroying the middle class.

Essentially, she is blamed for ruining millions of lives. If she is guilty of any of those crimes against humanity, then of course her death should be cheered.
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So, when Carter dies, we should cheer his death?
 
Edit: I don't think you can limit the reacting to being party-specific, but I am sure it plays a part.
 
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Incorruptible said:
Breitbart was wrong for attacking Kennedy. There are no excuses for attacking Kennedy like that and I condemned those attacks. I suspect he had a problem with Kennedy because of the whole Chappaquiddick incident

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident
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I'm trying not to get into the merits of postmortem attacks, as they are in all cases disrespectful except in the absolutely most extreme cases, like Hitler or Stalin.
 
People always confuse me when labelling people because the people I associate w\ being ' conservatives ' are the ones burning crosses, and wishing death on people for no reason at all.

"liberals" get criticized for bringing up the bad behavior of conservatives as if it's supposed to be a secret or something.
 
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