Do Bluray discs warrant their price tags?

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CZroe

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How is it not better to have everything at your fingertips? What if you want to watch a movie on a whim that you don't own? Go to Best Buy, buy it - come home blah blah blah. I just click click and I'm watching it. That is better.

What, like Netflix and local rental stores don't offer BD?
 

Ns1

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?

You do know that part of the $30 price tag the Blu-ray movie sells for on the shelf of Best Buy, goes towards the $100million bill the studio paid to create the movie, right?

Studios need to cover both the cost of replication and the cost of production, else you would not have any movies at all to purchase (or download).

that's just silly. cost of production is paid from sites like isohunt and torrentreactor.

Everytime you download the first 36 minutes of Hp7a, JK Rowling gets a quarter. Everyone knows this.
 

JackBurton

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I'm so sorry you're so OCD about quality and release dates that you can't enjoy what millions of people are already enjoying. Now don't you have discs to dust off? They're getting unsightly.

I'm glad you are content with mediocrity. Maybe you should have just stuck with a nice SD tube TV and VHS tapes since quality matters very little too you.
 
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It sickens me to think that convenience(and content control) is threatening to overtake quality by going to the download model for video content.
Don't act surprised, vi. The convenience factor is huge in any market segment. Mp3's, digital cameras, microwaves, and fast food.

People seem to care about their home theater though -- at least moreso than any other hobby. Hell just look at Gladiator. The studios heard the videophile's crying about the horrid encode and released it. When was the last time a music album was re-released within a year because the initial encoding was a blown-out, clipped mess. Answer: never.

God, I'm itching to get a new projector. So much I want to see in it's 1080p glory. My old unit has a few dust blobs that are pissing me off. Sealed lightpath my ass.
 

vi edit

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It's not so much a suprise as it is a sadness that many people are proclaiming..if not even endorsing streaming/downloading as the death knell for physical media.

Home theatre/video seems to have fought the good fight thus far and I'm not sure how much of that is from the consumer or just the simple fact that it's beastly format to try and move to a fully digital distributed format.

I don't care if streaming is provided as an alternative, if somebody wants it, then fine. I just don't want to see the day when physical media is no longer an option for video.

I do not have the same opinon of music and have fully embrased the download culture of that market. But music is a very, very different game than video.
 

roguerower

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I don't care if streaming is provided as an alternative, if somebody wants it, then fine. I just don't want to see the day when physical media is no longer an option for video.

I do not have the same opinon of music and have fully embrased the download culture of that market. But music is a very, very different game than video.

Very true. The difference between a .mp3 and a full size song is not readily noticable to me. The difference between a BR and DVD is unmistakable.

Also, an .mp3 ranges from 3-5mb and a song from 75-125mb. A ripped DVD can be had for 700mb while a BR is at least a couple of GB if not more. While the ratio may be the same, the time required to download a BR is much higher.
 

Ns1

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Very true. The difference between a .mp3 and a full size song is not readily noticable to me. The difference between a BR and DVD is unmistakable.

Also, an .mp3 ranges from 3-5mb and a song from 75-125mb. A ripped DVD can be had for 700mb while a BR is at least a couple of GB if not more. While the ratio may be the same, the time required to download a BR is much higher.

also depends on equipment

mp3's through my car sound system sound like ass, CD's only please.
 

0roo0roo

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So HDTV is only incrementally better than SDTV?

Indeed, not incimental at all. 6x more resolution.
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whether ur tv is good enough to deliver it all is another matter.
 

KeithTalent

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Some of the re-mastered black and white films really blow me away. I actually find they look more impressive than a lot of the recent films. Love it.

KT
 

Fritzo

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Yep, and 20 years ago, we were bitching about the price of those new-fangled compact discs..HOW can they be $15.00? Hell, a good vinyl LP is only $9.99!

(and I remember buying the latest vinyl LP's for $1.99! Outrageous!!

DVD's were $20-$25 when they first came out. However, the quality and features upgrade from VHS to DVD was astronomical. The quality and features jump from DVD to Blu-ray, not so much. In fact, many people can't even tell the difference between a DVD that's been upconverted and a Blu-ray disc.
 

Imdmn04

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Fuck buying movies.

Rent on netflix, rent it as many times as you want. You just need to be a little patient for snail mail.
 

BoomerD

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DVD's were $20-$25 when they first came out. However, the quality and features upgrade from VHS to DVD was astronomical. The quality and features jump from DVD to Blu-ray, not so much. In fact, many people can't even tell the difference between a DVD that's been upconverted and a Blu-ray disc.

Are they blind? I have a mediocre Panasonic BR player, and the difference is amazing.
I watched Avatar first on DVD, then a day later, on BluRay. The difference in detail and color was astounding.
 

JackBurton

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Are they blind? I have a mediocre Panasonic BR player, and the difference is amazing.
I watched Avatar first on DVD, then a day later, on BluRay. The difference in detail and color was astounding.

Exactly, either they are blind, in denial, or have a shitty TV. The difference between a well master BD and a DVD is night and day.
 

qliveur

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Blu-Ray is at least as much of an improvement over DVD as DVD was over VHS.
 

JackBurton

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Fuck buying movies.

Rent on netflix, rent it as many times as you want. You just need to be a little patient for snail mail.

I hate Netflix. When I buy a movie, I get it when I want it. I don't have to wait in a long queue only to be disappointed when I receive a disc that looks like it has been chewed on. :mad: Buying is much more expensive than renting, but I get what I want, WHEN I want it. That in itself is worth it to me. And if I want to re-watch a movie, I just walk over to my BD library, grab the movie and watch it. No waiting 3 day for a movie to come in. This is especially handy when I have company over.
 
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BoomerD

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You're probably the only one who does.

nah, I hate netflix too. They started throttling me after a couple of weeks. I live 80 miles from the nearest distribution center...and it'd take a week to do a round-trip.
 

qliveur

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Heh, I'm on the one-at-a-time plan and I can still get 3 movies a week from them. :D