Do Bluray discs warrant their price tags?

[AMDZen]

Blu-ray is homosexual and is already outdated technology

 

[SSSnail]

i think you should work on your grammar.
i know chinese is your native language but still, this is embarrassing.

I'll work on my grammar and proofread my posts only if you promise to work on not being a lowlife fat ass loser; do we have an accord? And capitalize Chinese you fucking twat! (You can leave the "i" alone, as you don't warrant a big "I").

 

[KeithTalent]

You just need to be a smarter shopper. I almost never pay more than $19.99 for a Blu-ray; there are plenty of deals out there.

I just picked up about 20 Criterion Blu-rays from the B&N $19.99 sale and that is most definitely worth it as the Criterion release are generally amazing. There is very rarely any need to pay the full sticker price unless you must have it on release day.

KT

 

[SandEagle]

typo???

Nope. Heard it on radio this morning that walmart will have $19 bluray players thanksgiving midnight

 

[Modelworks]

Nope. Heard it on radio this morning that walmart will have $19 bluray players thanksgiving midnight

Yes it is true. They are players manufactured by funai . The support is pretty bad, but for $19 what do you expect.

 

[spacejamz]

Nope. Heard it on radio this morning that walmart will have $19 bluray players thanksgiving midnight

According the Black Friday ads I have seen, Walmart's cheapest blu ray player will be $69 Magnovox...

 

[Modelworks]

Don't forget that not only are you paying for the 10cent disk, you are also paying for the content (movies can easily cost over 100million to make) as well as the years of development that went into the creation of bluray. Sony didn't pull bluray out of their ass you know...

I still think they're overpriced.

You are paying a lot for the DRM in the units.
I have been looking at bluray firmwares the last couple weeks and 99% of the boxes all run linux, which less than 1% have released the source code too even though they are required by law, but that isn't unusual. A lot of companies abuse GPL licensing.

If they took the DRM out of the units they could cut the cost by huge amounts. For example the DSP chips that decode video, 119 items in the API , 38 are necessary to do what a bluray player does and the other 81 are functions related to security. The firmware itself is over 60% DRM related coding and libraries to make sure nobody copies content or plays a disc from somewhere else. All the DRM cost money in hardware and software , all to pretend to stop people from copying a disc.

 

[Modelworks]

According the Black Friday ads I have seen, Walmart's cheapest blu ray player will be $69 Magnovox...

Magnavox is manufactured by funai.

 

[dainthomas]

I see them all the time for $10, and the discs themselves are indestructible.

Yep. My dog chewed up all my Lost blurays one day, and only one disk from season 5 ended up being unplayable after cleaning it up. F'ing mutt!

If they had been DVDs I probably would've lost most of them.

 

[dfuze]

BD is still way over priced. I only buy a few a year and wait until prices are on sale/clearance.

 

[TwiceOver]

My eyes aren't good enough, so no.

 

[spacejamz]

You are paying a lot for the DRM in the units.
I have been looking at bluray firmwares the last couple weeks and 99% of the boxes all run linux, which less than 1% have released the source code too even though they are required by law, but that isn't unusual. A lot of companies abuse GPL licensing.

If they took the DRM out of the units they could cut the cost by huge amounts. For example the DSP chips that decode video, 119 items in the API , 38 are necessary to do what a bluray player does and the other 81 are functions related to security. The firmware itself is over 60% DRM related coding and libraries to make sure nobody copies content or plays a disc from somewhere else. All the DRM cost money in hardware and software , all to pretend to stop people from copying a disc.

So they should just stop putting DRM and not protect their intellectual property so that pirates could save even more money?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Blu-ray is [snip] and is already outdated technology

I'll bite. What's the more current tech with equal picture and audio quality?

 

[Schfifty Five]

When DVDs first came out, they were easily $29.99 msrp.

Movie tickets back then were $4 matinee/$6 full price, so a DVD was 5x more expensive.

Today, movie tickets are $7 matinee/$10 full price (approx), so the ratio of BD to movie tickets seems to be on par or slightly less than DVDs ratio.

 

[CZroe]

When DVDs first came out, they were easily $29.99 msrp.

Movie tickets back then were $4 matinee/$6 full price, so a DVD was 5x more expensive.

Today, movie tickets are $7 matinee/$10 full price (approx), so the ratio of BD to movie tickets seems to be on par or slightly less than DVDs ratio.

I paid over $35 for Prince of Egypt at-launch... an' thems be 1999 dollar-es. K-Mart didn't even get their shipment of pre-order bonuses for me (some camel Beanie-Baby knockoff).

Do you ever remember DVD reaching $35 for just a movie? (Even adjusted for inflation).

Uhh... YES.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I'll work on my grammar and proofread my posts only if you promise to work on not being a lowlife fat ass loser; do we have an accord? And capitalize Chinese you fucking twat! (You can leave the "i" alone, as you don't warrant a big "I").

warrant must be word of the day.

 

[Modelworks]

So they should just stop putting DRM and not protect their intellectual property so that pirates could save even more money?

There is reasonable protection and then their is crazy wacko insane paranoia type protections. This is the latter. They could use a simple key check and that would be enough to do what the same DRM they have is doing now. Instead they go over board to the point that when you press FFWD on your remote, the players go through a DRM check. When it plays back a disc it runs multiple routines to make sure you haven't hot swapped the disc, tapped into the data bus or are sniffing the output to get the data out before HDCP.

It is like someone protecting their car from theft by removing the battery and tires every time they park.

 

[AMDZen]

I'll bite. What's the more current tech with equal picture and audio quality?

Teh internetz

 

[Modelworks]

I'll bite. What's the more current tech with equal picture and audio quality?

SDI is the best possible quality for audio and video but you will not see that in home. It is what is used in the studio to edit content before it is converted to the final format. The only way it can be stored currently is hard drives or DAT. One 2 hour movie is just over 165GB


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Digital_Interface

 

[IGBT]

standard DVD is still the better deal. Some BD look like crap. Others are just OK. Many people can't tell the difference.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Teh internetz

Does not compare.

 

[Fingolfin269]

SDI is the best possible quality for audio and video but you will not see that in home. It is what is used in the studio to edit content before it is converted to the final format. The only way it can be stored currently is hard drives or DAT. One 2 hour movie is just over 165GB


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Digital_Interface

I think in context of the home movie conversation this really doesn't compete with Blu-Ray. I don't think AMDZen was shooting for industrial grade stuff when he made the statement that BRD is outdated. I'm not aware of a better picture/audio quality source for home consumption.

 

[AMDZen]

Does not compare.

You're right, its infinitely better

How long before 1080p quality video is streaming to anyone who wants it for a nominal monthly fee? How long before all media is digital?

Fuck physical media and fuck blu-ray and all you homo's that support it. You're all just delaying the inevitable

 

[AMDZen]

I think in context of the home movie conversation this really doesn't compete with Blu-Ray. I don't think AMDZen was shooting for industrial grade stuff when he made the statement that BRD is outdated. I'm not aware of a better picture/audio quality source for home consumption.

Who needs such high quality? 720p looks almost as good unless your TV is 46" or bigger. I can stream 720p video with 5.1 audio with a push of a button.

Streaming will make blu-ray obsolete, along with all physical media. That is my point.

 

[spacejamz]

Who needs such high quality? 720p looks almost as good unless your TV is 46" or bigger. I can stream 720p video with 5.1 audio with a push of a button.

Streaming will make blu-ray obsolete, along with all physical media. That is my point.

Will the current broadband infrastructure support EVERYONE downloading 10GB movies? Will the ISP's implement download caps to get their piece of the pie?