Do a majority of American's know anything about other religions?

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Roguestar

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: SirStev0
This absolutely blows my mind. I read about 15 posts that made claims that were completely untrue and spouted them as if they were fact.
Surprise everyone... Muslim's believe Jesus was the son of god. OMG. Can you believe that. And guess what else, Allah = god. WHAT? REALLY? Does that mean it is the same heaven? Yeppers!

It actually disturbs me significantly. Wonder if a good deal of the problems we have with other cultures may be that we act like we know them even though a majority of us have no clue at all.

No, I can't believe that, because AFAIK it's not true.

The way a normal Christian would view Jesus being the son of god is the same as an Islam. He was born of virgin birth, performed miracles, died on a cross, ascended to heaven, rose from the dead and is currently alive and well in heaven. When Mohammad died, he was dead and rose to heaven. He is not alive in heaven as Jesus is.

From about.com
Muslims believe that Jesus (called 'Isa in Arabic) was the son of Mary, and was conceived without the intervention of a human father. The Qur'an describes that an angel appeared to Mary, to announce to her the "gift of a holy son" (19:19). She was astonished at the news, and asked: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (19:20). When the angel explained to her that she had been chosen for the service of God, and that God had ordained the matter, she devoutly submitted herself to His will.

So she was magically given a baby by god, but it does not specifically say that she conceived the son of god.

So she was both impregnated by god and in essence he was raised by god to be a teacher. Both of which make him in our terms the father. Sorry I do not see a difference. It is true that Muslims do not believe him to be a part of the trinity as they believe god to be one not split. Sorry but it takes two to tango, miracle or not, he is somebody's son.

EDIT: missed a he.

Surely if it's a miracle it doesn't have to abide by the normal rules of "someone impregnated her". Considering it was God that decided she'd have a baby and all that, I doubt he'd be limited in this if omnipotent.

 

[moshquerade]

i think insulting anyone who practices a religion, any religion, has become a sport at least when you can hide behind the internet.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: SirStev0
This absolutely blows my mind. I read about 15 posts that made claims that were completely untrue and spouted them as if they were fact.
Surprise everyone... Muslim's believe Jesus was the son of god. OMG. Can you believe that. And guess what else, Allah = god. WHAT? REALLY? Does that mean it is the same heaven? Yeppers!

It actually disturbs me significantly. Wonder if a good deal of the problems we have with other cultures may be that we act like we know them even though a majority of us have no clue at all.

No, I can't believe that, because AFAIK it's not true.

The way a normal Christian would view Jesus being the son of god is the same as an Islam. He was born of virgin birth, performed miracles, died on a cross, ascended to heaven, rose from the dead and is currently alive and well in heaven. When Mohammad died, he was dead and rose to heaven. He is not alive in heaven as Jesus is.

From about.com
Muslims believe that Jesus (called 'Isa in Arabic) was the son of Mary, and was conceived without the intervention of a human father. The Qur'an describes that an angel appeared to Mary, to announce to her the "gift of a holy son" (19:19). She was astonished at the news, and asked: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (19:20). When the angel explained to her that she had been chosen for the service of God, and that God had ordained the matter, she devoutly submitted herself to His will.

oopss you are wrong again..you better get your facts straight stevo

Sorry friend, but wiki doesn't hold all the answers. My Sunni friend has told me they believe he was crucified.
But hey, when in rome...
Here is a wiki article about the theories that surrounds Jesus's death and Islam's take on it. Text

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Roguestar

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Roguestar

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: SirStev0
This absolutely blows my mind. I read about 15 posts that made claims that were completely untrue and spouted them as if they were fact.
Surprise everyone... Muslim's believe Jesus was the son of god. OMG. Can you believe that. And guess what else, Allah = god. WHAT? REALLY? Does that mean it is the same heaven? Yeppers!

It actually disturbs me significantly. Wonder if a good deal of the problems we have with other cultures may be that we act like we know them even though a majority of us have no clue at all.

No, I can't believe that, because AFAIK it's not true.

The way a normal Christian would view Jesus being the son of god is the same as an Islam. He was born of virgin birth, performed miracles, died on a cross, ascended to heaven, rose from the dead and is currently alive and well in heaven. When Mohammad died, he was dead and rose to heaven. He is not alive in heaven as Jesus is.

From about.com
Muslims believe that Jesus (called 'Isa in Arabic) was the son of Mary, and was conceived without the intervention of a human father. The Qur'an describes that an angel appeared to Mary, to announce to her the "gift of a holy son" (19:19). She was astonished at the news, and asked: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (19:20). When the angel explained to her that she had been chosen for the service of God, and that God had ordained the matter, she devoutly submitted herself to His will.

So she was magically given a baby by god, but it does not specifically say that she conceived the son of god.

So she was both impregnated by god and in essence he was raised by god to be a teacher. Both of which make him in our terms the father. Sorry I do not see a difference. It is true that Muslims do not believe him to be a part of the trinity as they believe god to be one not split. Sorry but it takes two to tango, miracle or not, he is somebody's son.

EDIT: missed a he.

Surely if it's a miracle it doesn't have to abide by the normal rules of "someone impregnated her". Considering it was God that decided she'd have a baby and all that, I doubt he'd be limited in this if omnipotent.

I just don't see a difference. As someone who doesn't believe either story, they read as the same story. If he knocked her up and raised him, I believe he is more of a father then a lot of "fathers".

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
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oopss you are wrong again..you better get your facts straight stevo

Sorry friend, but wiki doesn't hold all the answers. My Sunni friend has told me they believe he was crucified.
But hey, when in rome...
Here is a wiki article about the theories that surrounds Jesus's death and Islam's take on it. Text[/quote]


If you want me to take the time to link the hundreds of sites that explain that Jesus was a prophet and not the son of God and not crucified according to the Koran and Islam I will.

do you want me too? or why dont you just admit you are wrong.

 

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
oopss you are wrong again..you better get your facts straight stevo

Sorry friend, but wiki doesn't hold all the answers. My Sunni friend has told me they believe he was crucified.
But hey, when in rome...
Here is a wiki article about the theories that surrounds Jesus's death and Islam's take on it. Text[/quote]

Taken from that article:

"While Christians believe Jesus was crucified, Muslims believe he was raised to heaven without being put on the cross and Allah (God) transformed another person to appear exactly like Jesus to deceive the Romans and he was crucified instead of Jesus. Jesus was ascended bodily."

GODOWNED

That sounds funny to me, personally, that God was just ******' with ya and you actually didn't crucify Jesus.

Romans: "Looke, for we have crucified he who called himself King of the Jews".
God: PSYKE

 

[Whisper]

Not nearly as much as I should. I took a class or two on various religions while in undergrad, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. I really should learn more at some point.

 

[leftyman]

first link

more?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Arkitech
Sadly, this issue goes beyond just religion. There are far too many americans who have the same outlook on race, money, politics and any other topic that can be thought of. There's a growing trend of ignorance, indifference and selfishness in this country (actually all over the world probably) which can only lead to disaster. We have to learn that in order to survive we need to get along with one another, you would think that after a few thousand years of wars and bloodshed that the human race might have learned a thing or two.

Going to have to disagree here. If anything, we're getting better about it. Previous generations were much more intolerant and ignorant compared to the newer generations.

The backlash that we have today is a result of people being militant in their beliefs. Take Christianity, Global Warming, political correctness, and groups like PETA as an example. While some may have fundamentally good intentions or a worthy cause to champion, the garbage militants spew and the actions they take towards people that don't fall in line does more harm than good for their cause.

 

[leftyman]

second link

 

[manowar821]

I just think it's sad that we spend so much time in life worrying about this, when we could instead be advancing our species, our technology, our relations with one another, and exploring...

"Hey, look at our brains! They're HUGE! Let's us them to kill each-other over minor technicalities in stories that not every person even believes to be true, instead of doing something useful."

Yeah yeah, I know people have it in their nature to worry about the afterlife, but honestly, if you're a nice person and you try your best to be kind, why the hell would it matter? You'd think that since I'm an atheist, that I'd be even more worried about death. I mean, you believe there is something for you to look forward to, but me? I don't have a damn clue as to what is going to happen, and that scares the ****** out of me. But do I try to comfort myself with what I believe to be outlandish stories and kill or get angry when someone questions my faith? No, I live my life to the fullest, and try my best to let people believe what THEY want to believe in.

Attention fundamentalists, get over it.

/rant

 

[leftyman]

third..want more?

 

[leftyman]

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