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DNC Advisor: Ann Romney has never worked a day in her life.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hilary-rosen/ann-romney-women_b_1419480.html

Hilary Rosen responds to Republican attacks on her as a woman.

Why does this even matter? It matters purely because Mitt Romney put the issue of his wife's views squarely on the table.

As Ruth Marcus noted in her column yesterday in the Washington Post, Romney, when asked last week about the gender gap, twice said he wished his wife could take the question.

"My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me," Romney told newspaper editors, "and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy."

So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt's touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney's history as we have heard it -- hardworking mom she may have been -- leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.
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Basically Romney himself admitted that he's out of touch with women himself, and delegates women's issues as something for the wife to worry about. I guess she can tell him about "problems" that other rich wives in La Jolla are having, having to drive a Ferrari instead of Bugatti because of Obama, that kind of stuff.
 
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thraashman said:
Women across the nation earn 77 cents for each dollar men do, in Wisconsin it's only 75 cents. The bill the repealed enforced equal work standards and made it easier for women to seek legal recourse for discrimination.
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Because women work less demanding and dangerous jobs, not because "the evul men" pay them less than men.

Go to any college engineering or science class (anything that involves math) and you'll understand why women tend to make less money than men. The ratio of men to women is at least 10:1.
 
senseamp said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hilary-rosen/ann-romney-women_b_1419480.html

Hilary Rosen responds to Republican attacks on her as a woman.



Basically Romney himself admitted that he's out of touch with women himself, and delegates women's issues as something for the wife to worry about. I guess she can tell him about "problems" that other rich wives in La Jolla are having, having to drive a Ferrari instead of Bugatti because of Obama, that kind of stuff.
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Even Rosen isn't saying this. You are bitter aren't you?
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
That may be you, however you should examine the attitudes of others more closely.

To anticipate you answer about raising children, I've mostly done raising one and in the middle of doing so for the second. I work full time and my wife does that and then some being an educator. Work comes home with her, so no we're not the Romney's.

That said my both my wife and I know that if one has 5 children and actively parents, which goes way beyond anything financial, that is hard work. Raising children is not easy. Ignoring them is. Now does she have advantages others do not? Of course she does. Does that make it easy. No. There are poor people who have multiple kids who have an easier time parenting than she. Think not? They ignore them. In fact I am aware of a situation where one woman waited until her most fertile time of the month and went for a conjugal visit with her prisoner husband so she could get pregnant again. No she doesn't work any more than Ann Romney. She'll do what she does, get a bigger check and dump the kid on to someone else. That's what she does. Now her kids? They are going to have a hell of a time being anything other than seriously screwed up. They are who I feel sorry for.

Bottom line- it's all about context and situation. Done right parenting five children IS hard work, house staffing notwithstanding. If Romney was complaining that she couldn't make ends meet, then she is completely wrong. If she thinks she's got is as bad as people who have to work AND raise 5 kids properly then she's wrong. If others think that raising kids properly is not work? They haven't a clue either. Easier perhaps, but always a challenge.
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I understand your point but you can't just eliminate the staff from the argument. If all the jobs of raising 5 kids and maintaining a house are added up a full staff can eliminate 50% of the actual work. Her advantage is more time can be devoted to the kids. Don't know if she did that but the opportunity is there.
 
The point is simple.

Work is still Work.

It means a Job, while raising kids is not a vacation it is not a "job".

It can be more difficult in some cases, and it can be less in others (all depending on the help provided, the situation, and how much the parent actually G.A.S.), but it is not a "job" as we define it in the economy, unemployment, or any other fiscal means.

So, while the wording may not be (horror) PC, it says what many Republicans would have said about Michelle, if she was not a brilliant type-A lawyer with kids. It says that a woman who has not HELD A JOB IN HER LIFE SHOULD NOT GIVE ADVICE ON JOBS FOR WOMEN.

She can have an opinion like everyone else, but siting her as an example may not be a strong point. the ONLY thing she may be helpful at is indicating how the government may start to give incentives for stay-at-home mothers, like community day care (allowing them to go to school and get their diplomas), medical assistance and other programs.

Asking her about "Working Moms" is a little off.
 
It's also amusing that whenever the Republicans would go after Michelle Obama it was mean-spirited, or racist, or sexist, or whatever the popular talking point at the time was. Now they can't wait to gear up the attack machine.

You become what you hate. Democrats have become Republicans. Well done. *golf clap*
 
I don't care if she has worked or not ether is fine with me. I just don't like the fox news republicans try and paint her as your average women who had to deal with the normal problems someone may have raising that many children. Her money and help makes her point of view totally different than most people in this country. That is fine, it's just the outrage that comes from the fox news republicans is just stupid.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Even Rosen isn't saying this. You are bitter aren't you?
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Keep attacking the messenger, just keep it up. You want to be in denial, be in denial, hopefully Romney joins you there. If he wants to bash Hilary Rosen instead of addressing the actual issues facing working women, that's his choice.
The women in the swing state poll told him what their #1 issue is, health care:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-04-01/swing-states-poll/53930684/1
Romney is dodging that issue. Instead he is giving them some BS statistics on unemployment, which, even if his claims had merit, is issue #3.
 
BoberFett said:
It's also amusing that whenever the Republicans would go after Michelle Obama it was mean-spirited, or racist, or sexist, or whatever the popular talking point at the time was. Now they can't wait to gear up the attack machine.

You become what you hate. Democrats have become Republicans. Well done. *golf clap*
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Romney is the one who said Ann Romney is his point person on women's issues.
 
HomerJS said:
Here come the stawmen. Nobody hates her, I'm just refuting the Romney inference she worked hard raising 5 kids when its not true.
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I don't care how much help you have, if you actually raise 5 children correctly, it is VERY hard work. Anyone who doesn't understand or acknowledge that fact is very likely a lousy parent who either had their kids raised by someone else or didn't spend the time and effort to raise them right.
 
senseamp said:
Keep attacking the messenger, just keep it up. You want to be in denial, be in denial, hopefully Romney joins you there. If he wants to bash Hilary Rosen instead of addressing the actual issues facing working women, that's his choice.
The women in the swing state poll told him what their #1 issue is, health care:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-04-01/swing-states-poll/53930684/1
Romney is dodging that issue. Instead he is giving them some BS statistics on unemployment, which, even if his claims had merit, is issue #3.
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I've already explained many times how health care should have been approached. I've also said that Republicans haven't a clue. That the Democrats are incompetent doesn't change that. That they lie and misrepresent doesn't change the fact that the Republicans are ducking the issue. That neither side is worth the time of day is the point, but you are in a committed relationship with the Democrats. Love forgives many evils.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
I've already explained many times how health care should have been approached. I've also said that Republicans haven't a clue. That the Democrats are incompetent doesn't change that. That they lie and misrepresent doesn't change the fact that the Republicans are ducking the issue. That neither side is worth the time of day is the point, but you are in a committed relationship with the Democrats. Love forgives many evils.
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So people who say that Romney is out of touch with working women are not just hating Ann Romney because she's rich?
 
senseamp said:
I can play this game too.
You hate Obama. Knowing that you prefer to let AIDS patients die explains that much.
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Hate is an active emotion. I think of him like something I step in at a dog walk. As far as the AIDS patient, you embrace the system that denied him coverage to begin with then attempted to turn the situation around when it failed saying that when your preferred way of forcing care onto others failed it was someone elses fault and they should go into personal bankruptcy before those who were in charge of the program were accountable. You also said that if given a choice between following a harmful regulation and the patient's life the physician is obligated to let the person die or be punished as a result. This is what you embrace and why no one should put faith in a system you endorse. You are an authoritarian, where government should have the power of life and death, even if wrong as long as the agenda agrees with you, and you have a problem with Mitt because he doesn't think as you do.

Hate is the wrong word. Pity is more like it.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Hate is an active emotion. I think of him like something I step in at a dog walk. As far as the AIDS patient, you embrace the system that denied him coverage to begin with then attempted to turn the situation around when it failed saying that when your preferred way of forcing care onto others failed it was someone elses fault and they should go into personal bankruptcy before those who were in charge of the program were accountable. You also said that if given a choice between following a harmful regulation and the patient's life the physician is obligated to let the person die or be punished as a result. This is what you embrace and why no one should put faith in a system you endorse. You are an authoritarian, where government should have the power of life and death, even if wrong as long as the agenda agrees with you, and you have a problem with Mitt because he doesn't think as you do.

Hate is the wrong word. Pity is more like it.
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And you are a hypocrite who believes the government should pay for health care, while at the same time bashing the government for getting involved in health care.
Obamacare would have required that guy to get private insurance before he got HIV, precisely so that he would not have left the hospital with the choice between letting him die, like you did, or going broke.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
No, I'm saying that some do.

Are you saying that women who have grown up with money are out of touch with those who weren't?
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Yes. If Ann Romney thinks she knows what it's like for working women because she raised 5 kids as a stay home mom with three mansions, she is out of touch and in denial about it. If Romney thinks he should let Ann Romney brief him on womens issues instead of getting involved himself, he is not just out of touch, he's on a different planet.
 
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