They spoke specifically about these offshore platforms acting as Countries. The angle of the Politicians and the Companies involved with these new Laws is to force the Internet Service Providers in the U.S. to shut down the connection links to these platforms thereby cutting them off and the illegal activities. The Anonymizer service would be rendered useless.
They spoke specifically about these offshore platforms acting as Countries. The angle of the Politicians and the Companies involved with these new Laws is to force the Internet Service Providers in the U.S. to shut down the connection links to these platforms thereby cutting them off and the illegal activities. The Anonymizer service would be rendered useless.
and what will they do when the servers are in space? Or in a country that will not recognize US copyright or law?
The problem with that is they are not countries anymore than an oil rig is a country.
They also run legitimate business off them, making them much harder to shut down.
How can they force a private business to shut down a link with a private server being used for legal purposes on the premise someone could route through there "invisibly"?
I understand what they are trying to do, and appreciate your efforts to make the information readily available to all of us here, but I don't see them ever getting a handle on this, at least in the near future.
The problem with that is they are not countries anymore than an oil rig is a country.
They also run legitimate business off them, making them much harder to shut down.
How can they force a private business to shut down a link with a private server being used for legal purposes on the premise someone could route through there "invisibly"?
I understand what they are trying to do, and appreciate your efforts to make the information readily available to all of us here, but I don't see them ever getting a handle on this, at least in the near future.
The "Them" is the MPAA/RIAA and other Private interests. The Politicians said these Laws give them the police and enforcement powers they "need" to stop the illegal activities. I brought this up at the hearing that they are giving these third party interests unprecidented powers. You have Federal, State and Local Laws and now you will have MPAA/RIAA laws. The reply was they never thought about it like that but that is essentially correct.
Below here is the exact wording they are using to give FBI type power to the RIAA and MPAA.
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SEC. 7. INFRINGEMENT WARNING NOTICE.
The Attorney General shall, within 3 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, set forth criteria under which copyright owners designated by the Attorney General will be able to use the seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation for deterrent purposes in connection with physical and digital copies and phonorecords and digital transmission of their works of authorship.
Governor Bush signed Florida's SDMCA implementation into law 6-25-2003. The law takes effect October 1, 2003.
In related news, here is the MPAA's comments on opposition to HB 79:
MPAA comments on Florida passage of it's Law
BW5378 JUN 06,2003 13:00 PACIFIC 16:00 EASTERN
( BW)(DC-MPAA) MPAA Expresses Support for Legislation Awaiting Governor's
Signature; Will Pave Way for Next Generation of Consumer Services
Entertainment Editors/Business Editors/Political Writers
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 6, 2003--The Motion Picture
Association of America today expressed support for HB79, legislation that
has already passed the Florida state legisla...
Edited for Fair Use Guidelines
Post Discalimer: All the facts are not here for review and debate as you will have to purchase your own copy (which you are really only renting) from the Copyright Holder in order to fully review and debate the matter at hand."
--30--DES/ph*
CONTACT: Motion Picture Association of America, Inc.
Richard Taylor, 202/293-1966
KEYWORD: FLORIDA DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: E-COMMERCE INTERNET GOVERNMENT MOTION PICTURES
ADVERTISING/MARKETING
SOURCE: Motion Picture Association of America, Inc.
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:40 PM
To: Policy@usiia.org; board@usiia.org
Cc: 'Declan McCullagh'
Subject: Super-DMCA Bill Signed In Florida
We have been informed that Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida has signed into law
HB79, which amends the state's Communication Services law, s. 812.15 of
the Florida Statute. The most immediate result will be that technology
manufacturers, ISPs and consumers in Florida will be at risk of criminal
penalties for providing what have until now been legal communications
devices and services. The bill also eliminates all fair use of
copyrighted materials by educators, the media and libraries.
In spite of our efforts, and those of many other technology,
professional and consumer groups, this "super-DMCA" copyright bill is
now law until it can be overturned in the courts.
Dave
David P. McClure, President & CEO
US Internet Industry Association
815 Connecticut Ave. NW, Suite 620
Washington, DC 20006
==================================
Mailto:
5810 Kingstowne Center Drive,
Suite 120, PMB 212
Alexandria, VA 22315-5711
==================================
(703) 924-0006 Voice
(703) 924-4203 Fax
(703) 851-4784 Mobile
dmcclure@usiia.org
http://www.usiia.org
In related news, here is the MPAA's comments on opposition to HB 79:
MPAA comments on Florida passage of it's Law
BW5378 JUN 06,2003 13:00 PACIFIC 16:00 EASTERN
( BW)(DC-MPAA) MPAA Expresses Support for Legislation Awaiting Governor's
Signature; Will Pave Way for Next Generation of Consumer Services
Entertainment Editors/Business Editors/Political Writers
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 6, 2003--The Motion Picture
Association of America today expressed support for HB79, legislation that
has already passed the Florida state legisla...
Edited for Fair Use Guidelines
Post Discalimer: All the facts are not here for review and debate as you will have to purchase your own copy (which you are really only renting) from the Copyright Holder in order to fully review and debate the matter at hand."
--30--DES/ph*
CONTACT: Motion Picture Association of America, Inc.
Richard Taylor, 202/293-1966
KEYWORD: FLORIDA DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: E-COMMERCE INTERNET GOVERNMENT MOTION PICTURES
ADVERTISING/MARKETING
SOURCE: Motion Picture Association of America, Inc.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:40 PM
To: Policy@usiia.org; board@usiia.org
Cc: 'Declan McCullagh'
Subject: Super-DMCA Bill Signed In Florida
We have been informed that Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida has signed into law
HB79, which amends the state's Communication Services law, s. 812.15 of
the Florida Statute. The most immediate result will be that technology
manufacturers, ISPs and consumers in Florida will be at risk of criminal
penalties for providing what have until now been legal communications
devices and services. The bill also eliminates all fair use of
copyrighted materials by educators, the media and libraries.
In spite of our efforts, and those of many other technology,
professional and consumer groups, this "super-DMCA" copyright bill is
now law until it can be overturned in the courts.
Dave
David P. McClure, President & CEO
US Internet Industry Association
815 Connecticut Ave. NW, Suite 620
Washington, DC 20006
==================================
Mailto:
5810 Kingstowne Center Drive,
Suite 120, PMB 212
Alexandria, VA 22315-5711
==================================
(703) 924-0006 Voice
(703) 924-4203 Fax
(703) 851-4784 Mobile
dmcclure@usiia.org
http://www.usiia.org
You know that is just spin. The wording of the Law does not preclude any of the above from happening, that is no distortion nor is it spin.
Too many Laws, and new Laws being way too broad is what is causing the continued doward spiral especially in the area of Computers, Technology and the Internet. You may be comfortable with the U.S. becoming a "Protectionist" State, isolated Island and laughing stock of the world but I am not.
It does now. There is this little thing called "legislative intent" used to reconcile ambiguous, contentious, or disputed interpretations of laws. Who other than the interested party seeking the law and helping draft it would be better able to speak on the intent of the law? Who else but the authorized representative of that interested party to represent their position accurately?
You're profoundly ignorant if you believe that about 90% of the laws in this country are so finely detailed and concise in their wording that no plausible interpretation could be extrapolated from them other than the one intended by the legislature. Most laws do not preclude unintended interpretations purely by their text, and yet the courts seem to figure-out how to get to the bottom of what the legislature intended when it wrote the law.
Why do you insist that because someone opposes this legislation that they are a thief. This is just like those on here that called all liberals trators because they did not agree with the President on some actions that he has taken.
I have no pirated software, no music that I have not purchased or stolen anything in my entire life, some 70 years. I find this law to be so intrusive into my personal freedom to use certain software and hardware that it should be buried along with the Taliban.
You have set up yourself up as judge as to my moral attributes, shame on you, and those that think like you. You are a discredit to the American way of life.
Bleep
What party would possibly find inhospitable laws criminalizing car theft other than a thief? What party would possibly find inhospitable laws criminalizing bank robbery other than a robber? What party would possibly find inhospitable laws criminalizing child molestation other than a pedophile? What party would possibly find inhospitable laws criminalizing racial discrimination other than a racist?
This is one of those slam dunk indefensible positions, there's really no other plausible or defensible reason to be against any of these laws unless it threatens to put a damper on your participation or benefit from any of these activities.
Well I am willing to allow one additional defense - complete ignorance or misconception of what the law actually does.
So with that, either you are someone who's activities will be criminalized by one of these laws, or you are so dreadfully deceived, mislead, or otherwise are profoundly ignorant, that you believe the law is something it is not.
Neither one, profound ignorance or criminal behavior, is a very flattering thing to be.
So as a test to determine which of the two applies to your situation, why don't you articulate precisely those portions of the law to which you object and find offensive, including links to the actual text of the law from its legislative or government source, please. Thank you.
I am glad you posted those arguments. None of them are changed with history or a Technological evolution. The Digital Age is a completely different analogy and cannot be compared as you and the others are trying to do. You cannot put into proper words an Evolution, we will all be gone, these insane meaningless arguments over all this will not even be a memory but the Technology will continue to exist. Don't you get it, we are all witnessing the change of an era, just as only a few short Generations ago witnessed the Industrial Age with the dawning of Electricity.
tcsenter:
Wonderfull! you are not able to win your point with facts so you use personal insults and try to change the venue of the arguement into anyone that does not agree with you has no brains and cannot understand what they read. You are the same kind of person that would allow a policeman to search your wallet for the phone number of a known hooker to see if you have broken the pandering law. Personal insults by you do your thinking justice, hey go ahead and tap my phone I have nothing to worry about, hey go ahead and look in all the drawers in my house I have nothing to hide. Is this the kind of country you want to live in? A country that suspects everyone and if you dont cave in to a search you must have something to hide? This is the same idea that Hitler used in his quest to control everyone. Who is controlling you? You are not your own person but a pawn of someone else that understands that you will swallow anylthing that they feed you. Is the pay that good that you would sell your soul to the devil and try and defend him to the last breath of your meager existance?
Bleep
Wonderfull! you are not able to win your point with facts so you use personal insults and try to change the venue of the arguement into anyone that does not agree with you has no brains and cannot understand what they read. You are the same kind of person that would allow a policeman to search your wallet for the phone number of a known hooker to see if you have broken the pandering law. Personal insults by you do your thinking justice, hey go ahead and tap my phone I have nothing to worry about, hey go ahead and look in all the drawers in my house I have nothing to hide. Is this the kind of country you want to live in? A country that suspects everyone and if you dont cave in to a search you must have something to hide? This is the same idea that Hitler used in his quest to control everyone. Who is controlling you? You are not your own person but a pawn of someone else that understands that you will swallow anylthing that they feed you. Is the pay that good that you would sell your soul to the devil and try and defend him to the last breath of your meager existance?
Bleep
Thank you for that non-response to my request:
I do not find it unreasonable to take your non-response for what its worth and use it to draw my own conclusions about which of those two possibilities is true in your case. Buh-bye now.
Nice writing Mr Bleep.
There is no words in any Law to have to specifically point to.
It is the people with power charged with making the decisions that causes any Law to be used wrong.
In other words what we have to worry about is an entire Society of people in power positions that have the idealogy of Hitler of controlling everyone.
I don't think I updated this a couple of weeks ago.
In the United States all Digital VCR consumers will be forced to watch Commercials. This is response to the Hollywood executives that said Americans are breaking the Law if they skip Commercials because they would be in breach of a contract with them to watch the Commercials in order to see the shows without charging to see them. If anyone attempts to hack the Digital VCR's to turn the Skip Commercial feature back on they will be charged under the Federal and State DMCA Laws with up to 50 Years in prison and $2,500,000 in fines.
I believe the skip feature will still be available to others outside of the U.S. until the U.S DMCA is forced to be adopted in those Countries as well.
June 10, 2003
EFF on Digital Networks' decision to disable ReplayTV's features
EFF is disappointed with Digital Networks North America's decision to disable the Commercial Advance and Send Show features in new model 5500 ReplayTVs. "This is yet another example of Hollywood dictating what technologies consumers can and can't use" said EFF Attorney Gwen Hinze. "Consumers are the real losers from Digital Networks' business decision. They will now be forced to watch commercials and forgo the benefits of technological innovation to meet the concerns of the 28 Hollywood studios who have been suing ReplayTV for the last two years."
In the United States all Digital VCR consumers will be forced to watch Commercials. This is response to the Hollywood executives that said Americans are breaking the Law if they skip Commercials because they would be in breach of a contract with them to watch the Commercials in order to see the shows without charging to see them. If anyone attempts to hack the Digital VCR's to turn the Skip Commercial feature back on they will be charged under the Federal and State DMCA Laws with up to 50 Years in prison and $2,500,000 in fines.
I believe the skip feature will still be available to others outside of the U.S. until the U.S DMCA is forced to be adopted in those Countries as well.
June 10, 2003
EFF on Digital Networks' decision to disable ReplayTV's features
EFF is disappointed with Digital Networks North America's decision to disable the Commercial Advance and Send Show features in new model 5500 ReplayTVs. "This is yet another example of Hollywood dictating what technologies consumers can and can't use" said EFF Attorney Gwen Hinze. "Consumers are the real losers from Digital Networks' business decision. They will now be forced to watch commercials and forgo the benefits of technological innovation to meet the concerns of the 28 Hollywood studios who have been suing ReplayTV for the last two years."
Ok, Hollywood executives saying something doesn't mean jack sh!t unless it becomes law. Of course, if they use some encrypted feature to prevent commercial skipping, and you hack it, then you violate the DMCA, so in that sense it would be illegal. Nevertheless, until a law is passed that requires all digital timeshifting devices to not allow fast forward and reverse, you'll still be able to do it somehow. Of course, even if such a law were passed, I'm sure with a TV in card and the right Operating System, you could still do it. Heck, you can still watch DVDs on Linux (a la DeCSS) though it's supposedly illegal.
Originally posted by: jliechty
Ok, Hollywood executives saying something doesn't mean jack sh!t unless it becomes law. Of course, if they use some encrypted feature to prevent commercial skipping, and you hack it, then you violate the DMCA, so in that sense it would be illegal. Nevertheless, until a law is passed that requires all digital timeshifting devices to not allow fast forward and reverse, you'll still be able to do it somehow. Of course, even if such a law were passed, I'm sure with a TV in card and the right Operating System, you could still do it. Heck, you can still watch DVDs on Linux (a la DeCSS) though it's supposedly illegal.
That is the basis of the Rehnquist VCR decision stating that personal use of recordings is OK along with personal Time shifting. The DMCA and the new Laws are trying to superceed that ruling. This issue is sure to land back at the feet of the Supreme Court with the current mood of Hollywood, Corporations and all of those bought by them that there is no such thing as "personal use". Everything is on a rented basis.
"This is frightening stuff, to find out that the government / industrial complex can come in and "suggest" that publicly available information be suppressed is just another step towards a repressive state. Couple this with what is happening with the DCMA and other such repressive legislation and it seems that we are heading away from a free and open society."
Getting away from? More like long gone.
To sum up below, a student did his paper for his PHD on U.S. Infrastructure such as Telecommunications links etc. The Gov't wants to burn any printed material, wipe his Laptop hard drive and label his project as Classified. The student used all public information.
One other thing, who still listens to the Beastie Boys???
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:46:57 -0700
To: dave@farber.net, declan@well.com
From: Ross Stapleton-Gray <amicus@well.com>
Subject: "The Department of Homeland Security ate my dissertation..."
In-Reply-To: <BB2EA677.3F55B%dave@farber.net>
GMU grad student compiles extensive map of US fiber optic networks, starts
people worrying:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23689-2003Jul7.html?nav=hptop_tb
"He can click on a bank in Manhattan and see who has communication lines
running into it and where. He can zoom in on Baltimore and find the choke
point for trucking warehouses. He can drill into a cable trench between
Kansas and Colorado and determine how to create the most havoc with a hedge
clipper. Using mathematical formulas, he probes for critical links, trying
to answer the question: "If I were Osama bin Laden, where would I want to
attack?" In the background, he plays the Beastie Boys.
For this, Gorman has become part of an expanding field of researchers whose
work is coming under scrutiny for national security reasons. His story
illustrates new ripples in the old tension between an open society and a
secure society."
...
Ross
amicus@well.com
http://www.fuzzycloud.com
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:44:39 -0400
From: ERIC GUY <eguy@comcast.net>
Subject: Student dissertation to be suppressed in the name of
"National Security"?
To: declan@well.com
Declan,
(pardon me if this has been sent twice - problems with my mail service)
I am sure you have seen the Washington Post article about Sean Gorman's
work on mapping the business and industrial infrastructure of the
American economy, but it hit me hard that information that is "publicly
available material he found on the Internet" should be suppressed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23689-2003Jul7.html
Some quotes:
"Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined I'd be briefing
government officials and private-sector CEOs."
"Invariably, he said, they suggest his work be classified. 'Classify my
dissertation? Crap. Does this mean I have to redo my PhD?' he
said. 'They're worried about national security. I'm worried about
getting my degree.'"
"'He should turn it in to his professor, get his grade -- and then they
both should burn it,' said Richard Clarke, who until recently was the
White House cyberterrorism chief."
"When Gorman and Schintler presented their findings to government
officials, McCarthy recalled, they said, 'Pssh, let's scarf this up and
classify it.' "
"And when they presented them at a forum of chief information officers
of the country's largest financial services companies ... the
executives suggested that Gorman and Schintler not be allowed to leave
the building with the laptop."
"The university has imposed the security guidelines. It is trying to
build a cooperative relationship with the Department of Homeland
Security. Brenton Greene, director for infrastructure coordination at
DHS, described the project as 'a cookbook of how to exploit the
vulnerabilities of our nation's infrastructure.' He applauds Gorman's
work, as long as he refrains from publishing details. 'We would
recommend this not be openly distributed,' he said."
This is frightening stuff, to find out that the government / industrial
complex can come in and "suggest" that publicly available information
be suppressed is just another step towards a repressive state. Couple
this with what is happening with the DCMA and other such repressive
legislation and it seems that we are heading away from a free and open
society.
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Getting away from? More like long gone.
To sum up below, a student did his paper for his PHD on U.S. Infrastructure such as Telecommunications links etc. The Gov't wants to burn any printed material, wipe his Laptop hard drive and label his project as Classified. The student used all public information.
One other thing, who still listens to the Beastie Boys???
---
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:46:57 -0700
To: dave@farber.net, declan@well.com
From: Ross Stapleton-Gray <amicus@well.com>
Subject: "The Department of Homeland Security ate my dissertation..."
In-Reply-To: <BB2EA677.3F55B%dave@farber.net>
GMU grad student compiles extensive map of US fiber optic networks, starts
people worrying:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23689-2003Jul7.html?nav=hptop_tb
"He can click on a bank in Manhattan and see who has communication lines
running into it and where. He can zoom in on Baltimore and find the choke
point for trucking warehouses. He can drill into a cable trench between
Kansas and Colorado and determine how to create the most havoc with a hedge
clipper. Using mathematical formulas, he probes for critical links, trying
to answer the question: "If I were Osama bin Laden, where would I want to
attack?" In the background, he plays the Beastie Boys.
For this, Gorman has become part of an expanding field of researchers whose
work is coming under scrutiny for national security reasons. His story
illustrates new ripples in the old tension between an open society and a
secure society."
...
Ross
amicus@well.com
http://www.fuzzycloud.com
---
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:44:39 -0400
From: ERIC GUY <eguy@comcast.net>
Subject: Student dissertation to be suppressed in the name of
"National Security"?
To: declan@well.com
Declan,
(pardon me if this has been sent twice - problems with my mail service)
I am sure you have seen the Washington Post article about Sean Gorman's
work on mapping the business and industrial infrastructure of the
American economy, but it hit me hard that information that is "publicly
available material he found on the Internet" should be suppressed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23689-2003Jul7.html
Some quotes:
"Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined I'd be briefing
government officials and private-sector CEOs."
"Invariably, he said, they suggest his work be classified. 'Classify my
dissertation? Crap. Does this mean I have to redo my PhD?' he
said. 'They're worried about national security. I'm worried about
getting my degree.'"
"'He should turn it in to his professor, get his grade -- and then they
both should burn it,' said Richard Clarke, who until recently was the
White House cyberterrorism chief."
"When Gorman and Schintler presented their findings to government
officials, McCarthy recalled, they said, 'Pssh, let's scarf this up and
classify it.' "
"And when they presented them at a forum of chief information officers
of the country's largest financial services companies ... the
executives suggested that Gorman and Schintler not be allowed to leave
the building with the laptop."
"The university has imposed the security guidelines. It is trying to
build a cooperative relationship with the Department of Homeland
Security. Brenton Greene, director for infrastructure coordination at
DHS, described the project as 'a cookbook of how to exploit the
vulnerabilities of our nation's infrastructure.' He applauds Gorman's
work, as long as he refrains from publishing details. 'We would
recommend this not be openly distributed,' he said."
This is frightening stuff, to find out that the government / industrial
complex can come in and "suggest" that publicly available information
be suppressed is just another step towards a repressive state. Couple
this with what is happening with the DCMA and other such repressive
legislation and it seems that we are heading away from a free and open
society.
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This thread was in Off Topic this morning. ISP's are starting to embrace Police, Judge, Jury and Executioner role.
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Hmm, so my friend got a call from SBCGlobal DSL
Topic Title Hmm, so my friend got a call from SBCGlobal DSL..
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Date Posted: 07/16/2003 1:39 AM
Posted By: Syringer (Diamond Member)
And they told him to stop d/ling copyrighted material, or else they'd shut their connection down.
Anyone else get similar threats?
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Hmm, so my friend got a call from SBCGlobal DSL
Topic Title Hmm, so my friend got a call from SBCGlobal DSL..
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Date Posted: 07/16/2003 1:39 AM
Posted By: Syringer (Diamond Member)
And they told him to stop d/ling copyrighted material, or else they'd shut their connection down.
Anyone else get similar threats?
"The Internet is the greatest challenge to the sovereignty of nations and states in the history of mankind,"
"U.S. Representative Bob Goodlatte (R-Virginia), co-chairman of the Congressional Internet Caucus, didn't talk at length about spam at the joint press conference, but he said the U.S. and European Union need to work more closely together on a variety of technology issues, including spam, piracy, and Internet taxation.
"The Internet is the greatest challenge to the sovereignty of nations and states in the history of mankind," he said, noting that countries have to work together in order to overcome these issues."
"U.S. Representative Bob Goodlatte (R-Virginia), co-chairman of the Congressional Internet Caucus, didn't talk at length about spam at the joint press conference, but he said the U.S. and European Union need to work more closely together on a variety of technology issues, including spam, piracy, and Internet taxation.
"The Internet is the greatest challenge to the sovereignty of nations and states in the history of mankind," he said, noting that countries have to work together in order to overcome these issues."
DirecTV dragnet snares innocent techies
DirectTV has sued 9,000 people without probable cause using the Federal DMCA Law and this is even before the new State version of the DMCA kicks in many States.
"Stretch or not, Mercer admits that DirecTV has dismissed some cases after the defendant proved his or her innocence to the company's satisfaction."
GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT
This is by a Corporation with the Judicial system's blessing. They have even dragged people into Court costing them thousands of dollars in Attorney fees and they don't even have a Satellite TV dish.
Tell me we're not in serious trouble.
DirectTV has sued 9,000 people without probable cause using the Federal DMCA Law and this is even before the new State version of the DMCA kicks in many States.
"Stretch or not, Mercer admits that DirecTV has dismissed some cases after the defendant proved his or her innocence to the company's satisfaction."
GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT
This is by a Corporation with the Judicial system's blessing. They have even dragged people into Court costing them thousands of dollars in Attorney fees and they don't even have a Satellite TV dish.
Tell me we're not in serious trouble.
New ABit Motherboard claims to keep out RIAA & Government
I am sure that the U.S. Government and the RIAA will be quickly sending a Cease and Desist to ABIT under the DMCA.
I am sure that the U.S. Government and the RIAA will be quickly sending a Cease and Desist to ABIT under the DMCA.
That will be fun, as it appears that Abit is based in Taiwan. Will the RIAA try to block sales of Abit motherboards in the US? I feel that would be a bit far-reaching. We will just have to wait and see what becomes of this (though I have to admit that it took guts to put that in an ad).
8-6-2003 The Copyright Cage
Excellent writing by Professor Zittrain at Harvard.
"Bars can't have TVs bigger than 55 inches. Teddy bears can't include tape decks. Girl Scouts who sing "Puff, the Magic Dragon" owe royalties. Copyright law needs to change. "
I didn't know that just about every Sports Bar in the United States are operating illegally and must be shut down under the DMCA because the TV's are too large and they have too many speakers.
Excellent writing by Professor Zittrain at Harvard.
"Bars can't have TVs bigger than 55 inches. Teddy bears can't include tape decks. Girl Scouts who sing "Puff, the Magic Dragon" owe royalties. Copyright law needs to change. "
I didn't know that just about every Sports Bar in the United States are operating illegally and must be shut down under the DMCA because the TV's are too large and they have too many speakers.
8-12-2003 Computers automatically sending Cease &Desist letters
From discussion over at SlashDot:
Computers automatically sending C&D letters? (Score:5, Insightful)
by pclminion (145572) on Tuesday August 12, @12:42PM (#6676593)
How can the human element be totally removed from this? There's a computer somewhere deciding whether or not it sees "infringing" material and sends out legal harrassment letters without any human intervention whatsoever? And people are not absolutely outraged by this?
What's next, automatic indictment by computer? "Sorry sir, the computer has ascertained that there is a 94% probability that you murdered your wife. The trial begins Wednesday."
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Companies are going Hog wild with C & D's such as Fox going after Frankel today for using the words "Fair and Balanced" on a book cover, Fox lays claim to the words as they TradeMarked them, the RIAA is now up and over 2,000 Subpeona's issued.
From discussion over at SlashDot:
Computers automatically sending C&D letters? (Score:5, Insightful)
by pclminion (145572) on Tuesday August 12, @12:42PM (#6676593)
How can the human element be totally removed from this? There's a computer somewhere deciding whether or not it sees "infringing" material and sends out legal harrassment letters without any human intervention whatsoever? And people are not absolutely outraged by this?
What's next, automatic indictment by computer? "Sorry sir, the computer has ascertained that there is a 94% probability that you murdered your wife. The trial begins Wednesday."
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Companies are going Hog wild with C & D's such as Fox going after Frankel today for using the words "Fair and Balanced" on a book cover, Fox lays claim to the words as they TradeMarked them, the RIAA is now up and over 2,000 Subpeona's issued.
I saw that on /. earlier today. It would be hard for anyone (except those who work for such companies and think they derive some benefit from these faulty systems) to argue that this is ok.
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