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eits

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Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: eits

christ, it's getting late and my typing has become abysmal... especially with the tv running in the background. i end up typing words that the tv says whenever it sounds close to the same word i'm about to type...

Your thinking and reasoning skills are abysmal, and it has nothing to do with the time. You have such strong liberal views that statistics don't even show up on your radar screen. You said that 2 of the cities I listed weren't bad, yet they've both been name America's Most Dangerous City before.

To sum it up, you're absolutely clueless.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Your thinking and reasoning skills are abysmal, and it has nothing to do with the time. You have such strong liberal views that statistics don't even show up on your radar screen. You said that 2 of the cities I listed weren't bad, yet they've both been name America's Most Dangerous City before.

I'd like to see him walk through the heart of one of those cities.

<eits> "Hi friendly neighbors, I understand your plight!" *put two thumbs up and smiles naively* </eits>
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?


$5 says he's a self-hating white.

This often happens when someone gets so exceedingly liberal that they hate themselves.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: eits
and i'm saying that white people, over a few hundred years, helped create ghetto/thug culture into what it is today through oppression, social/political/legal injustices, and not caring enough to treat them like they matter in life.

They were denied access to the same things whites were yes, but how did whites CREATE this culture of ignorance?

Consider this: If anything, whites forced blacks to behave through intimidation both before and after slavery. How did that create "thug" culture? It should have done the opposite.

If anything, whites should be the ones behaving poorly and blacks should be the well behaved one because we, whites, were given the freedom to get away with many crimes and to mistreat others (and many times we did), while blacks were forced to submit and behave, almost brainwashed to be agreeable and submissive.

Explain how I'm wrong, because I don't think I am.

a kid who's got an abusive father is more than likely going to be an abusive father himself. also, a kid with an abusive father is more than likely to act out at school and be violent.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?

??? uh, i'm just like you, remember? half persian, half white.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: eits

christ, it's getting late and my typing has become abysmal... especially with the tv running in the background. i end up typing words that the tv says whenever it sounds close to the same word i'm about to type...

Your thinking and reasoning skills are abysmal, and it has nothing to do with the time. You have such strong liberal views that statistics don't even show up on your radar screen. You said that 2 of the cities I listed weren't bad, yet they've both been name America's Most Dangerous City before.

To sum it up, you're absolutely clueless.

i walk around st. louis every weekend... i guess it's a damn miracle i'm still alive, seeing how it's america's #1 most dangerous city.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: eits
a kid who's got an abusive father is more than likely going to be an abusive father himself. also, a kid with an abusive father is more than likely to act out at school and be violent.

You're ignoring my point. Who created that abuse and how?

I say whites did not create it because they intimidated blacks to behave, not to act wildly, as you imply.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?


blah blah blah, strom thurmond should have won.... blah blah blah, whites are the best race ever. white power.

 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?

??? uh, i'm just like you, remember? half persian, half white.

Did something happen to you? Have a lot of black friends? Got tazed by a white officer? What?
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: eits
a kid who's got an abusive father is more than likely going to be an abusive father himself. also, a kid with an abusive father is more than likely to act out at school and be violent.

You're ignoring my point. Who created that abuse and how?

I say whites did not create it because they intimidated blacks to behave, not to act wildly, as you imply.

the oppressor created that abuse... ? i don't understand where you're lost.

after much oppression, people end up fighting back... "acting out"... kinda like how the kid with the abusive dad revolts against all authority figures.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?

??? uh, i'm just like you, remember? half persian, half white.

Did something happen to you? Have a lot of black friends? Got tazed by a white officer? What?

??? since when does rational thought have anything to do with a traumatic experience?
 

Andyb23

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
My head is gonna explode in here.

Yea its pretty tense.

I don't its eits thats necessarily making the most inflammatory statements here tho...
 

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Andyb23

What about Indians or other groups?

I read that Indians in the West make a lot more than even white people.

Anyways I'm probably running into a dead end here /shrug

Indians are the same case. Hard work, good manners, a willingness to learn, and staying out of trouble add up to success.

It just amazes me how some people can go from having nothing to having something in a relatively short amount of time by actually trying hard, while others do nothing about their situation and resort to excuses, pointing to a past that's growing more distant with each passing day.

There may be some truth to that, I don't know how Indian-Americans got richer than white folks :confused:

They must be pretty smart...

But you know what they say... you never know until you've walked a mile in a mans shoes...

because indians have more doctors per capita than any other race.
So true. Indians seem to be over-represented in medicine, and Asians (as in, East Asia) seems to be over-represented in many IT fields.
 

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Liberals: They're just misunderstood! It's all whitey's fault!

if whitey didn't treat them like pieces of shyt for so long, they wouldn't have adapted and acted like pieces of shyt, passing on the shyt way of life from generation to generation.

That doesn't explain the identical behavior they exhibit in Canada, England, France, Brazil, and even Africa. It doesn't appear to be an isolated social issue.

Ohhh boyyy....

Do you have the same opinion of other people?

Like Asians or Indians?

Let's bring up Asians.

Many came to this country with nothing, they were discrimimated against, abused, but with hard work they made themselves successful. The same applies to Canada as well. In fact, in most Western countries this is the case. The success seems to follow the people. On the other hand, with certain groups, failure follows the people, regardless of where on Earth they choose to live, even in their native country.

Also, I don't see a huge Asian component to the US penal system.

asians actively came to this country to make a better life... blacks were forced to come here in crowded, unsanitary, enclosed, abysmal ships in order to make some white guy's life better.

huge difference.

Tell that to the thousands of anonymous Chinese coolies buried along the railroad.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

no, i'm not black...

Well whats your story?


blah blah blah, strom thurmond should have won.... blah blah blah, whites are the best race ever. white power.


This is the second time in this thread that you have edited out my comments and replaced them with something which I didn't say. It's quite obvious you are losing this argument and you're resorting to childish tactics. I don't believe that any race is "better" than another one. There is no master race. There are just different races, and that's it.
 

91TTZ

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Eits, it's obvious that you're conveniently using the US as the excuse since there was slavery here. Why don't you use another country as an example, such as Canada or Brazil, where you can't use slavery as an excuse?

There are other countries in this world where they live, you know. And they don't seem to be prospering there, either. Not even the ones which never left Africa.


I didn't make the problem here, I'm merely pointing it out to you, who seems to be too blind to read the writing on the wall. Don't kill the messenger.
 
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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Andyb23
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Liberals: They're just misunderstood! It's all whitey's fault!

if whitey didn't treat them like pieces of shyt for so long, they wouldn't have adapted and acted like pieces of shyt, passing on the shyt way of life from generation to generation.

That doesn't explain the identical behavior they exhibit in Canada, England, France, Brazil, and even Africa. It doesn't appear to be an isolated social issue.

Ohhh boyyy....

Do you have the same opinion of other people?

Like Asians or Indians?

Let's bring up Asians.

Many came to this country with nothing, they were discrimimated against, abused, but with hard work they made themselves successful. The same applies to Canada as well. In fact, in most Western countries this is the case. The success seems to follow the people. On the other hand, with certain groups, failure follows the people, regardless of where on Earth they choose to live, even in their native country.

Also, I don't see a huge Asian component to the US penal system.

asians actively came to this country to make a better life... blacks were forced to come here in crowded, unsanitary, enclosed, abysmal ships in order to make some white guy's life better.

huge difference.

Show me one black person that is alive today that was brought here in those conditions and for that reason. You can't find any can you? Know why, because that was 200 years ago. How f'ing long do you want to support that notion, Oh woe is me, those poor Negros have been treated so badly that we need to support them forever. Do you see Christians wanting to live off of reparations from the decendants of the Roman Empire? Are Jewish people living in Ghettos in Germany still, living off of welfare?

 

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Liberals: They're just misunderstood! It's all whitey's fault!

What you say? Them there folks is neocons!

But seriously, this isn't really as evil as it looks. In 5 years these kids will be thanking their older brothers for teaching them how to fight. It's part of survival.
 

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You can compare the African American slavery subject with the Jews in Egypt. The Jews were enslaved for alot longer than the Africans in America. (Correct me if i am wrong please). And you don't see the same response from Jews as you do from African Americans in the USA. Using your logic Eits they should act the same, since they were both oppressed, conditioned, etc.

 

Aj1966

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I agree with Vich. It's sad how liberals shy away from the idea of personal responsibility, and they somehow blame a society/other group instead of an INDIVIDUAL for their own actions. No matter what your background is, human beings usually have some sort of value system that allows us to determine if an action is universally right or wrong, i.e. murder, violence, etc etc. This really isn't a race or conditioning issue. Many groups of people who are poor are often uneducated and make piss poor decisions, but it's not a result of a society pushing them down, because there are plenty of impoverished people who know better.