Disturbing video of kids fighting

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exdeath

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Liberals: They're just misunderstood! It's all whitey's fault!

if whitey didn't treat them like pieces of shyt for so long, they wouldn't have adapted and acted like pieces of shyt, passing on the shyt way of life from generation to generation.

Yeah because slaves had to be gangsta'z and have gold rims and ghetto rap and boomin 'systems' back in the slavery era in order to cope and that?s why some of them choose that lifestyle now in 2006 :roll:

I haven't linked the video as I have no audio. Can anyone say if this is an actually brutal blood fest or is it a friendly competition between friends wrestling around in the grass or what?

There's nothing wrong with rough housing or fighting for fair competition, or in self defense, however there are limits with how far you let it go before knowing when it's time to stop and when results have been obtained. Continuing to encourage the beating of someone who is clearly no longer a threat in a self defense situation, for example, is clearly uncalled for.

I've been in organized casual sparring matches with friends with onlookers and other friends shouting similar things ("dude you are so dead", etc). But it was all fun and games and recreation sport; we weren't looking to kill each other. "You mother fvcker, now you die!" was a complement and acknowledgement on a well place sneaky blow, not a literal threat or display of rage. A bystander not part of the group could see that as an actual violent brawl taking place. (and bloody lips and knuckles are part of any sport and are not indicative of uncontrolled violence)

I've had a half staff busted over my face and the only person aghast was the girl who was worried she'd seriously hurt me (little blood and sore tooth but otherwise laughing my ass off). Coincidentally, that would be the same girl I've been with for 6 years now :)
OH NOES BRUTAL SAVAGES! :roll:
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: exdeath
I haven't linked the video as I have no audio. Can anyone say if this is an actually brutal blood fest or is it a friendly competition between friends wrestling around in the grass or what?

It was more the adults egging on the kids. Mostly what was repeated about 10 times was "get him n*gga! get him! beat his a*s!"

I don't think it was just a two kids just horsing around. They were both angry and being egged on by adults.
 

mordantmonkey

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Andyb23
..... What does that have to do with liberals?

You'll find that left wingers are the primary defenders of the urban culture and it's people. Judging from the language, I would venture to guess those people were not educated upper middle class suburbanites.

wtf does people abusing their children have to do with "urban culture"? I know plenty of hardcore republican rednecks that abused their children, and they were far from "urban culture"
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
wtf does people abusing their children have to do with "urban culture"? I know plenty of hardcore republican rednecks that abused their children, and they were far from "urban culture"

I'm not talking about child abuse in general, but I'm speak of promoting a culture of violence and ignorance.
 

mordantmonkey

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
wtf does people abusing their children have to do with "urban culture"? I know plenty of hardcore republican rednecks that abused their children, and they were far from "urban culture"

I'm not talking about child abuse in general, but I'm speak of promoting a culture of violence and ignorance.

same goes. i have a lot of relatives that live in alabama, and a few in kentucky. most of the people out there are good people like anywhere else, but there are few families that are just trash and promote "violence and ignorance". It's not an "urban" condition, it's a "human" condition.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
same goes. i have a lot of relatives that live in alabama, and a few in kentucky. most of the people out there are good people like anywhere else, but there are few families that are just trash and promote "violence and ignorance". It's not an "urban" condition, it's a "human" condition.

Yes you see that in both rural and urban. But I'm specifically talking the "thug life" culture that is predominate with minority urban youths today (go to any urban high school and tell me that's not true), while if you go in a rural area, you'll see the "violent meth trailer trash" is a small minority.

Rural areas have different problems. Most of them are just close-minded and ignorant simpletons, but not violent.
 

child of wonder

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Those parents should be surgically rendered infertile and their children taken away.

I don't care what color you are, how much you're discriminated against, this stupid thug horsesh1t that perpetuates black culture is reprehensible and disgusting and those that participate in it only serve to discredit and tarnish their own race.
 

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I think the worst part was they appeared to be BETTING on the fight.

Not every slave owner beat or mistreated their workers. They were unskilled labor paid with food and shelter. I think if given the choice to stay home and starve or work for whitey, I would choose whitey. Obviously 'owning' a person is morally wrong and the workers didn't have much if any freedom but they weren't tortured.

There have been many enslaved peoples in many different countries. Nowhere else in history has a group blamed past enslavement on poor status/behavior many years later.


 

OutHouse

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That made me sick to watch.

i hope social services are knocking on those parents door.
 

mordantmonkey

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Originally posted by: pnad
I think the worst part was they appeared to be BETTING on the fight.

Not every slave owner beat or mistreated their workers. They were unskilled labor paid with food and shelter. I think if given the choice to stay home and starve or work for whitey, I would choose whitey. Obviously 'owning' a person is morally wrong and the workers didn't have much if any freedom but they weren't tortured.

There have been many enslaved peoples in many different countries. Nowhere else in history has a group blamed past enslavement on poor status/behavior many years later.
O RLY?

 

thesurge

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Originally posted by: pnad
I think the worst part was they appeared to be BETTING on the fight.

Not every slave owner beat or mistreated their workers. They were unskilled labor paid with food and shelter. I think if given the choice to stay home and starve or work for whitey, I would choose whitey. Obviously 'owning' a person is morally wrong and the workers didn't have much if any freedom but they weren't tortured.

There have been many enslaved peoples in many different countries. Nowhere else in history has a group blamed past enslavement on poor status/behavior many years later.
Didn't happen as often as you think.
and lol at your second part.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: eits
anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

Explain it to us, what were they "conditioned and programmed" to behave like? I understand they were treated very badly and it's very unfortunate. But explain how they were "programmed." Programmed to behave like that? From what I understand, many, if not most, were "programmed" to behave civilized because their duties were housework and fieldwork.

But I still don't understand why you think our ancestors determine our behavior today. My ancestors behavior doesn't effect me today.

if you treat someone like a dog enough, they'll start acting like it.

lol yea, Africa is a beacon of civilization.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: JLGatsby

I would say most wealth black businessmen are contributing positively to the urban communities, but the thing is, the kids would rather be the rapper than the businessmen, that's what their culture has promoted. It's better to be a the thug "ballin the white tee" than the stiff in the business suit.

And when an intelligent, educated black person shows others the way, they instantly discount him as "acting white", throw out his credibility, and learn nothing from the experience.

UNCLE TOM
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Aj1966
I agree with Vich. It's sad how liberals shy away from the idea of personal responsibility, and they somehow blame a society/other group instead of an INDIVIDUAL for their own actions. No matter what your background is, human beings usually have some sort of value system that allows us to determine if an action is universally right or wrong, i.e. murder, violence, etc etc. This really isn't a race or conditioning issue. Many groups of people who are poor are often uneducated and make piss poor decisions, but it's not a result of a society pushing them down, because there are plenty of impoverished people who know better.

I still fail to understand this connection between "liberal" and lack of personal responsibility. The implication appears to be that if conservatives were in control, things would be different but that certainly isn't true because we've had conservatives running the country for the past 5 years, as well as a few major urban centers.

This problem we are struggling to define and grapple with transcends "liberal" and "conservative", "republican" and "democrat." A lack of access to education, a lack of positive influences and this new "hip-hop"-fight the power system that appears in many poor areas of the country (white and black), is the problem. Who gives a damn who is "responsible" for it, the reality is this a problem ALL Americans have to live with and, instead of making divisions between all of us by saying "it's your fault" or whatever we should be trying to understand the best way to IMPROVE the life of the poorest Americans.

Don't believe for a second this only a black problem. Poor people have struggled with these issues for hundreds of years whether they are white or black or hispanic or native american or whatever.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: eits
anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

Explain it to us, what were they "conditioned and programmed" to behave like? I understand they were treated very badly and it's very unfortunate. But explain how they were "programmed." Programmed to behave like that? From what I understand, many, if not most, were "programmed" to behave civilized because their duties were housework and fieldwork.

But I still don't understand why you think our ancestors determine our behavior today. My ancestors behavior doesn't effect me today.

if you treat someone like a dog enough, they'll start acting like it.

lol yea, Africa is a beacon of civilization.

you don't think africa had booming civilizations before the europeans took over the lands and drew up crazy boundary lines?

also, part of why it's so hard to set up a working civilization in africa is because no companies really want to live in a geographically inhospitable environment. that's why the coasts of africa are much more stable, economically and socially, than the mainland areas.

you guys keep looking at the world in pure black and white and completely reject any shades of grey... it's so sad :(
 

eits

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Originally posted by: CrazyHelloDeli
White Guilt

10 Things You Can't Say In America

Hating Whitey

These should get you started eits.

i don't hate whitey. just because i think that blacks act out as a result of years of cultural conditioning and evolution (for a lack of a better term) because of the way blacks had to live under white oppression doesn't mean i hate anyone. it's an explanation for why things are the way they are... it's a lot better than explaining the world the way 91ttz, jlgatsby, vich, and a bunch of you other ethnocentric bastards do, which is basically thinking that black people are the way they are because that's how they've always been and that's how they always will be... as if it's in their genes to be uncouth savages. that's absolutely ridiculous.

you may not say the word, but you still think of them as the n-word...
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: eits
you don't think africa had booming civilizations before the europeans took over the lands and drew up crazy boundary lines?

In North Africa, the Arabic people (Middle Eastern) had booming civilizations, but that sort of progress was very scarce in sub-Saharan Africa.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: eits
you don't think africa had booming civilizations before the europeans took over the lands and drew up crazy boundary lines?

In North Africa, the Arabic people (Middle Eastern) had booming civilizations, but that sort of progress was very scarce in sub-Saharan Africa.

the muslims took the area over... that doesn't mean that it was they who created the booming civilizations. the africans did it.

in subsaharan africa, you didn't find too many booming civilizations because most of the groups that lived there were nomadic tribes. they never stuck anywhere long enough to grow a civilization.
 

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