Disturbing video of kids fighting

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: eits
anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

Explain it to us, what were they "conditioned and programmed" to behave like? I understand they were treated very badly and it's very unfortunate. But explain how they were "programmed." Programmed to behave like that? From what I understand, many, if not most, were "programmed" to behave civilized because their duties were housework and fieldwork.

But I still don't understand why you think our ancestors determine our behavior today. My ancestors behavior doesn't effect me today.

if you treat someone like a dog enough, they'll start acting like it.

You've been watching too many Jet Li movies.

You're really something, you know

you really don't think that the zimbardo effect is a crock of bullshyt?

Those subjects that were part of that experiment, are their children, or their grandchildren acting like prisoners today?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

 

[BD2003]

Its pretty damn funny how they bleep everything but the 500 N words.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

Roll your eyes all you want, but what you said is ridiculous. Maybe you should try finding some info to back it up (which I think may be quite difficult)..otherwise, it is a joke.

 

[91TTZ]

Hell, watch BET and see what the wealthy blacks are conditioning their youth to act like. They have the money, they have the trust of their community, they have the influence. Do you see them promoting well-mannered people who speak proper English and save money for the future so that they can work to be wealthy? No, you do not. You see "da thug life". You see people who speak poor English, are obnoxiously rude and overconfident, and blow their money trying to act like a "baller" by drive Escalades with 22" rims.

And then they wonder why their kids have no money and failed at their dream to be a rapper/basketball player when that Jewish/Asian/Indian/White kid next door has money because they chose a more conservative goal that was easier to obtain, such as becoming a programmer/engineer/lawyer, etc.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: eits
anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

Explain it to us, what were they "conditioned and programmed" to behave like? I understand they were treated very badly and it's very unfortunate. But explain how they were "programmed." Programmed to behave like that? From what I understand, many, if not most, were "programmed" to behave civilized because their duties were housework and fieldwork.

But I still don't understand why you think our ancestors determine our behavior today. My ancestors behavior doesn't effect me today.

if you treat someone like a dog enough, they'll start acting like it.

You've been watching too many Jet Li movies.

You're really something, you know

you really don't think that the zimbardo effect is a crock of bullshyt?

Those subjects that were part of that experiment, are their children, or their grandchildren acting like prisoners today?

do you also believe that humans were created in a matter of days? according to your post, it seems like large populations and hundreds of years of oppression, rather than days, means nothing to you.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

Roll your eyes all you want, but what you said is ridiculous. Maybe you should try finding some info to back it up (which I think may be quite difficult)..otherwise, it is a joke.

I live in Louisiana, and I would like to point out that many blacks here are of the stereotypical 'thug' lifestyle. However, when I was in Kansas City, Missouri for a month, the blacks I knew there were much more civil, even if there were only around 10 in the whole city (overexaggeration). So I, from personal experience, have found a difference between the two regions, but I don't venture far enough to suppose why the difference exists.

However, everyone up there was just kinda nicer.....

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

Roll your eyes all you want, but what you said is ridiculous. Maybe you should try finding some info to back it up (which I think may be quite difficult)..otherwise, it is a joke.

i'm not going to waste my time looking online for evidence of something that's obvious. also, i never made an argument. i said "seem" and "argument," which removes me from making an argument.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: eits

do you also believe that humans were created in a matter of days? according to your post, it seems like large populations and hundreds of years of oppression, rather than days, means nothing to you.

You conveniently like to choose the US as the spot for all of Africans' problems, since there are well known examples of oppression here. But please explain the failure of their people in Brazil, or elsewhere in the world. What about in Africa itself?

It seems very sad that the most prosperous country in Africa was the only country controlled by whites, and then after that country discarded its racist ways and returned to black rule, the crime rate skyrocketed and is currently returning to a third world country again.

I want you to show me one place on Earth where the blacks remain the elite when forced to compete with other races of people.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Hell, watch BET and see what the wealthy blacks are conditioning their youth to act like. They have the money, they have the trust of their community, they have the influence. Do you see them promoting well-mannered people who speak proper English and save money for the future so that they can work to be wealthy? No, you do not. You see "da thug life".

Well to their benefit, they are not the typical example of wealthy blacks. Most wealthy blacks (businesspeople) act very civilized, no less than any wealthy person of another race.

The rappers and basketball players are "accidentally wealthy." They didn't really earn that money, it was a freak of nature that brought it to them. Those are basically average ghetto dopes who stumbled across a lot of money, hence their ignorant behavior.

I would say most wealth black businessmen are contributing positively to the urban communities, but the thing is, the kids would rather be the rapper than the businessmen, that's what their culture has promoted. It's better to be a the thug "ballin the white tee" than the stiff in the business suit.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

Roll your eyes all you want, but what you said is ridiculous. Maybe you should try finding some info to back it up (which I think may be quite difficult)..otherwise, it is a joke.

I live in Louisiana, and I would like to point out that many blacks here are of the stereotypical 'thug' lifestyle. However, when I was in Kansas City, Missouri for a month, the blacks I knew there were much more civil, even if there were only around 10 in the whole city (overexaggeration). So I, from personal experience, have found a difference between the two regions, but I don't venture far enough to suppose why the difference exists.

However, everyone up there was just kinda nicer.....

you should live in the northeast and see what poor blacks are like up there. very friendly and they actually hold respectable positions in society, whereas, in the south and midwest, it's mainly just white people...

emphasis on education is a huge contributer to this trend, i think.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

I would say most wealth black businessmen are contributing positively to the urban communities, but the thing is, the kids would rather be the rapper than the businessmen, that's what their culture has promoted. It's better to be a the thug "ballin the white tee" than the stiff in the business suit.

And when an intelligent, educated black person shows others the way, they instantly discount him as "acting white", throw out his credibility, and learn nothing from the experience.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

Roll your eyes all you want, but what you said is ridiculous. Maybe you should try finding some info to back it up (which I think may be quite difficult)..otherwise, it is a joke.

I live in Louisiana, and I would like to point out that many blacks here are of the stereotypical 'thug' lifestyle. However, when I was in Kansas City, Missouri for a month, the blacks I knew there were much more civil, even if there were only around 10 in the whole city (overexaggeration). So I, from personal experience, have found a difference between the two regions, but I don't venture far enough to suppose why the difference exists.

However, everyone up there was just kinda nicer.....

Thats great and all, but that still doesn't support what eits said. Missouri is a "red-state".

Fact is, over 50% of the black population lives in the south, which is why eits said what he said. It isn't that the blacks in any one area are better than the other (not counting differences in wealth) its just that there are way more blacks in the red states than in the blue states.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: eits

do you also believe that humans were created in a matter of days? according to your post, it seems like large populations and hundreds of years of oppression, rather than days, means nothing to you.

blah blah blah i'm david duke... blah blah blah black people are bad no matter where they live... it's in their genetics... blah blah blah... white power.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Excelsior

for those of use who've lived in a blue state in the north/east and a red state in the midwest/south know what i'm talking about when i say that poor blacks seem to act a lot worse in the midwest/south... arguments can be made about the cycle with the way they act and the negative images of blacks seen in the local news and remnants of jim crow.

Hahahahhaaha.....hahahahah....hahaha. That is one of the dumbest posts I have seen on here in a long time.

:roll:

Roll your eyes all you want, but what you said is ridiculous. Maybe you should try finding some info to back it up (which I think may be quite difficult)..otherwise, it is a joke.

I live in Louisiana, and I would like to point out that many blacks here are of the stereotypical 'thug' lifestyle. However, when I was in Kansas City, Missouri for a month, the blacks I knew there were much more civil, even if there were only around 10 in the whole city (overexaggeration). So I, from personal experience, have found a difference between the two regions, but I don't venture far enough to suppose why the difference exists.

However, everyone up there was just kinda nicer.....

Thats great and all, but that still doesn't support what eits said. Missouri is a "red-state".

Fact is, over 50% of the black population lives in the south, which is why eits said what he said. It isn't that the blacks in any one area are better than the other (not counting differences in wealth) its just that there are way more blacks in the red states than in the blue states.

missouri's a swing state, actually.

 

[Andyb23]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: eits

do you also believe that humans were created in a matter of days? according to your post, it seems like large populations and hundreds of years of oppression, rather than days, means nothing to you.

You conveniently like to choose the US as the spot for all of Africans' problems, since there are well known examples of oppression here. But please explain the failure of their people in Brazil, or elsewhere in the world. What about in Africa itself?

It seems very sad that the most prosperous country in Africa was the only country controlled by whites, and then after that country discarded its racist ways and returned to black rule, the crime rate skyrocketed and is currently returning to a third world country again.

I want you to show me one place on Earth where the blacks remain the elite when forced to compete with other races of people.

South Africa is really doing a lot better recently

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: eits

you should live in the northeast and see what poor blacks are like up there. very friendly and they actually hold respectable positions in society, whereas, in the south and midwest, it's mainly just white people...

emphasis on education is a huge contributer to this trend, i think.

What are you talking about? They're not very friendly up here. Try walking in NorthEast philly and you're going to get your ass kicked. Try walking the streets of Newark. Camden. Brooklyn.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
And when an intelligent, educated black person shows others the way, they instantly discount him as "acting white", throw out his credibility, and learn nothing from the experience.

Exactly. They themselves associate behaving civilized as "acting white" and behaving rebellious as "acting black." So they're stereotyping themselves, glorifying those stereotypes through self-identification, and then finally fulfilling those stereotypes.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Excelsior


Thats great and all, but that still doesn't support what eits said. Missouri is a "red-state".

Fact is, over 50% of the black population lives in the south, which is why eits said what he said. It isn't that the blacks in any one area are better than the other (not counting differences in wealth) its just that there are way more blacks in the red states than in the blue states.

That is why I pointed out that there were 'only 10' in the city. I wasn't trying to back up what eits said, I was just sharing a personal experience.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: eits

you should live in the northeast and see what poor blacks are like up there. very friendly and they actually hold respectable positions in society, whereas, in the south and midwest, it's mainly just white people...

emphasis on education is a huge contributer to this trend, i think.

What are you talking about? They're not very friendly up here. Try walking in NorthEast philly and you're going to get your ass kicked. Try walking the streets of Newark. Camden. Brooklyn.

there are pockets everywhere... and you're not going to get killed or your ass kicked in newark or camden or brooklyn... no disagreement with n.e. philly, though.

also, city is different than residential or boonies. there are lots of people, regardless of color, that are dangerous from living in the inner city.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: eits
blah blah blah i'm david duke... blah blah blah black people are bad no matter where they live... it's in their genetics... blah blah blah... white power.

eits, You are completely ignoring the facts and automatically labeling any sort of criticism of the black community as "racism" or bigotry. The FACTS are facts. The facts state there are extreme problems in the black community that is not shared by communities of similar income. Such as the 70% out-of-wedlock birthrate, sky high crime, and a culture that promotes ignorance.

It's not about "race." Being a certain color does not make you act a certain way. It's about culture. But because people self-identify themselves by race, cultures are often draw to certain races (people think, I'm that color, therefore I should act like that).

Point is, there is a problem, and you seem to completely exempt them from all the blame. Because your ancestor was a slave, that makes you go out and have 3 kids out of wed lock? You're just closing your ears and going "la la la la la I'm not listening."

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: eits
blah blah blah i'm david duke... blah blah blah black people are bad no matter where they live... it's in their genetics... blah blah blah... white power.

eits, You are completely ignoring the facts and automatically labeling any sort of criticism of the black community as "racism" or bigotry. The FACTS are facts. The facts state there are extreme problems in the black community that is not shared by communities of similar income. Such as the 70% out-of-wedlock birthrate, sky high crime, and a culture that promotes ignorance.

It's not about "race." Being a certain color does not make you act a certain way. It's about culture. But because people self-identify themselves by race, cultures are often draw to certain races (people think, I'm that color, therefore I should act like that).

Point is, there is a problem, and you seem to completely exempt them from all the blame. Because your ancestor was a slave, that makes you go out and have 3 kids out of wed lock? You're just closing your ears and going "la la la la la I'm not listening."

and i'm saying that white people, over a few hundred years, helped create ghetto/thug culture into what it is today through oppression, social/political/legal injustices, and not caring enough to treat them like they matter in life. however, none of you seem to share the same opinion. you'd rather think that the blacks, as a whole, should just forgive and forget, even though they still feel the racism and oppression today.

ghetto culture is very poor socially, economically, educationally, and nutritionally... exactly how the whites made them originally. that culture gets handed down from generation to generation... parents teach their kids the way they were raised. over hundreds of years, it just becomes the way things are...

christ, it's getting late and my typing has become abysmal... especially with the tv running in the background. i end up typing words that the tv says whenever it sounds close to the same word i'm about to type...

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: eleison

Actually, if I recall correctly, the last African, slavery ship stopped over a century ago. Unless these blacks are over 100 years old, they were not forced over to the US. They were born here. However, like all Americans, I'm assuming if they really wanted to leave the US, no one is holding them back. They can immigrate "back" to Africa.

Stop using slavery as an excuse...

-Eleison

anyways, the history of a race and the way they were treated for hundreds and hundreds of years is significant in the way they're conditioned to act.

stop acting like you think it shouldn't matter.

and stop using your name at the end of your posts, as if it means anything to anyone.

You obviously have strong feelings about this topic. Perhaps you are black? I don't know. All I know is that teaching little kids to fight each other like little dogs.. well, I don't think that's cool. I think they should just stop - "conditioned" or not... and I'm not even quite sure what that means.. "conditioned"? did some guy "condition" these adults to encourage the kids to fight like little savages? I don't know... doesn't make sense to me...

But then a lot of things "certain" races do doesn't make sense to me...

-Eleison

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: eits

there are pockets everywhere... and you're not going to get killed or your ass kicked in newark or camden or brooklyn... no disagreement with n.e. philly, though.

Huh?

Newark was named America's Most Dangerous city in 1996, and Camden was named America's Most Dangerous city two years in a row, in 2004 and 2005. They're not nice places.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: eits
and i'm saying that white people, over a few hundred years, helped create ghetto/thug culture into what it is today through oppression, social/political/legal injustices, and not caring enough to treat them like they matter in life.

They were denied access to the same things whites were yes, but how did whites CREATE this culture of ignorance?

Consider this: If anything, whites forced blacks to behave through intimidation both before and after slavery. How did that create "thug" culture? It should have done the opposite.

If anything, whites should be the ones behaving poorly and blacks should be the well behaved one because we, whites, were given the freedom to get away with many crimes and to mistreat others (and many times we did), while blacks were forced to submit and behave, almost brainwashed to be agreeable and submissive.

Explain how I'm wrong, because I don't think I am.