**Disputed** - Joe Crowley will challenge Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the NY14 General Election

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Blackjack200

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It was a nothingburger when Cowley was still on the ballot as a simple procedural thing, but she felt the need to Tweet, so that made it a somethingburger. Now, Republicans may try to twist this as indicative of some major rift, which it is not, but its still a curious development.

If there's one thing the 2016 election showed us, it's that voters definitely care if there's a rift in the party. They care super hard.
 

JSt0rm

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Um, this is a non-story. He's not running. False thread headline.

At the bottom of the OP's link:

Update 9:51: Crowley responded to Ocasio-Cortez's accusation on Twitter, writing: "Alexandria, the race is over and Democrats need to come together. I've made my support for you clear and the fact that I'm not running. We've scheduled phone calls and your team has not followed through. I'd like to connect but I'm not willing to air grievances on Twitter."

And this story was clearly updated BEFORE this post was made. Meaning someone is intentionally trying to spread misinformation.

Coming to post this. verify everything you post. We should make it a suspension offense to post known fake stuff.
 

realibrad

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I saw that, I haven't updated anything yet because 1) his name is still on the ballot, and it's not clear why he hasn't removed it yet (they're claiming it's difficult to do, I think) and 2) I don't think he's disputed her claim that he stood her up on 3 scheduled conference calls to concede the race.

I'm in wait-and-see mode, hopefully it turns out to be nothing.


https://www.vox.com/2018/7/12/17564576/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-twitter-ballot-new-york

This explains that he could move, or the party that backed him could nominate him for another position and be on that. Its actually kinda stupid.

As for disputing her claim about standing her up, he sure did over twitter.

"Alexandria, the race is over and Democrats need to come together. I’ve made my support for you clear and the fact that I’m not running. We’ve scheduled phone calls and your team has not followed through. I’d like to connect but I’m not willing to air grievances on Twitter."
 

Blackjack200

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Blackjack200

Lifer
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And Crowley seems to thing it was a scheduling issue.

From the Vox article posted above.

As the New York Times’s Lisa W. Foderaro pointed out, the thinking here would be for WFP to nominate Crowley for a seat that he’d have little-to-no chance of winning, “like a county clerkship in a region of the state dominated by the other party.” Some positions don’t have residency requirements, and a lawyer for the Working Families Party says it should be easy for Crowley to do this.

“I respect Congressman Crowley’s concerns, but there are common, straightforward and legal ways to remove candidates from the ballot in cases like this,” said WFP counsel Alex Rabb in a statement. “There are offices around the state for which the Congressmember could be nominated. The New York State Court of Appeals has found that it is standard for parties to substitute candidates after a primary election, and that the practice does not violate the letter or the spirit of the law.”

Sometimes, candidates do vacate the line, Goldfeder said.

“And sometimes, like Joe Crowley, they say, ‘that would be a fraud on the voters and I’m not going to do that, so relax,’” the elections lawyer added.

So he's making up a bullshit justification to stay on the ballot. Why should I believe him about the concession calls?
 

JSt0rm

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JSt0rm

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From the Vox article posted above.



So he's making up a bullshit justification to stay on the ballot. Why should I believe him about the concession calls?

As for the fact that his name will remain on the ballot in the November, Mr. Crowley wrote in a second Twitter post that there are “lots of questions about WFP line,” adding that he was “honored to have their support.” But, he added, “for record you can only be removed from the ballot if 1) you move out of NY; 2) die; 3) be convicted of a crime; 4) accept a nomination for another office (in a place I don’t live).”


^^^ this is bullshit? I think your meter is broken.
 

Blackjack200

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Please go ahead and post any thread I started that turned out to be misinformation. Until then why dont you do the smart thing and concede this was all fake news fomented by "someone" and move on.

fomented by "someone"?? It was tweeted out by AOC herself, so why not say that?
 

Blackjack200

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As for the fact that his name will remain on the ballot in the November, Mr. Crowley wrote in a second Twitter post that there are “lots of questions about WFP line,” adding that he was “honored to have their support.” But, he added, “for record you can only be removed from the ballot if 1) you move out of NY; 2) die; 3) be convicted of a crime; 4) accept a nomination for another office (in a place I don’t live).”


^^^ this is bullshit? I think your meter is broken.

Yeah, it's bullshit, as the section of the Vox article I posted makes clear. It's common practice for a primary loser to remove their name from the ballot by accepting a nomination to another office that they are not likely to win. The idea that this would constitute "election fraud" is absurd, as the New York State Court of Appeals has supported the practice.
 

Jhhnn

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she tweeted one thing and it was addressed yet people still want to run with it. Why is that?

Crooked Hillary! Lock her up! Poor Bernie! So cheated by the evil DNC!

Yada, yada, yada... Just tearing down the dirty Democrats, that's all. Useful idiots to the RNC do that all the time.
 

Blackjack200

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she tweeted one thing and it was addressed yet people still want to run with it. Why is that?

Yeah, the one thing she posted was about JC mounting a GE challenge, and while it was addressed, it certainly wasn't settled.

I'm in wait-and-see mode, hopefully it turns out to be nothing.

That's your idea of "running with it"?

Okay dude, why don't you go soak your head in some more Putin conspiracy theories?
 

JSt0rm

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Yeah, the one thing she posted was about JC mounting a GE challenge, and while it was addressed, it certainly wasn't settled.



That's your idea of "running with it"?

Okay dude, why don't you go soak your head in some more Putin conspiracy theories?

Does she have any information that he is mounting a challenge aside from this one thing? Like is he campaigning? Is he raising funds? I mean surely we would have some other bit of information about all of this.
 

JSt0rm

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Yeah, the one thing she posted was about JC mounting a GE challenge, and while it was addressed, it certainly wasn't settled.



That's your idea of "running with it"?

Okay dude, why don't you go soak your head in some more Putin conspiracy theories?


Ok. Im glad that's your position on it. How about you change the thread title then ;)