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[desy]

J.D. Power 2011 Vehicle Dependability Study
Nameplate ranking – problems per 100 vehicles

Lincoln 101
Lexus 109
Jaguar 112
Porsche 114
Toyota 122
Acura 123
Buick 125
Mercedes-Benz 128
Cadillac 130
Hyundai 132
Honda 139
Ford 140
Saab 146
Infiniti 151
Industry average 151
Smart 152
Chevrolet 156
Volvo 156
Subaru 157
Kia 160
Audi 161
BMW 164
Scion 166
Ram 173
Mazda 181
Nissan 183
GMC 184
Mitsubishi 186
Suzuki 190
Volkswagen 191
Chrysler 202
Dodge 206
Land Rover 212
Jeep 214
Mini 221

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...and-status-in-jd-power-survey/article1946070/

Nothing like Flame bait!! I'll chime in w my two bits later

 

[punjabiplaya]

Ever since I started looking at the JD power reliability data, I'd like to see how it is influenced by average driver age.

 

[desy]

Well like all surveys it isn't perfect however I'd argue Lexus drivers aren't signifcantly younger than Lincoln drivers or Honda to Ford. Now Buick to Scion then yeah, but Scion to Mazda no

 

[KIAman]

It would be interesting to scale the report along with data of the severity of report problems.

I mean a reported issue for "strange rattling noise from dash" vs "engine on fire" are going to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.

What is the hell is going on (engrish?!?!?!)? Jaguar 3rd on the list? Saab over Infinity?!?

And the Mercedes Benze number I don't believe at all unless the only people ever reporting issues in the world about their new benzes are my friends and neighbors.

 

[FeuerFrei]

I really hope they factor in mileage. That's far more important than years of age (3 in this survey) in determining reliability. Something tells me new Lincolns are very gently used. Pardon my dubiousness.

And Jaguar near the top??

 

[vshah]

Mini -> chick car -> poor maintenance -> more problems

that's the way i see it.

 

[desy]

These reports always come out about the same and the gaps are much less and the severity is minor compared to even 5 yrs ago. Yes the problem could be a bad sun visor or a bad transmission and they are weighted the same.

I find it much more intersting to see the trend, who'd ever see Hyundai over Honda? Even if it is withing the degree of error or reporting I'll seriously consider them now when 15 yrs ago I wouldn't. I'll be buying a car next summer and a couple yr old Buick just might be what I'm interested in to replace the Minivan. . .

It also doesn't help to have the whole brand rated. Maybe the Mercedes SLK is holding up the brand and they sell the most of those but the real crappy blow apart ones don't hurt them because they aren't volume sellers. Where Chev had the crappy Cobalt as a volume seller bringing down the much better Malibu numbers and so on

 

[exdeath]

All I learned from this is that all cars are mechanical devices and aren't perfect no matter who makes them.

 

[skyking]

It confirms everything I gathered about Suzuki. I wanted an SX-4 AWD but can't do it.

 

[desy]

That the problem with lumping all the cars together by brand, if you look to to CR the SX4 is better than an Accord, or Fusion, a Fit, a Camry, any Subaru, any Lincoln its the XL7's and stuff dragging down their score.

There are other reasons I wouldn't get a SX4 but reliability wouldn't be one of them

 

[BoberFett]

Lincoln

Now if only they'd make a new Mark...

 

[ShawnD1]

Ever since I started looking at the JD power reliability data, I'd like to see how it is influenced by average driver age.

That and the results have a bias against vehicles that are actually used for things. When is the last time anyone loaded 500 pounds of shingles into the trunk of a Jaguar? Fucking never. I did that last week in my car.


The top cars in the list are cars that nobody ever drives. Lincoln, Lexus, Jaguar, Porsche.
Who uses a Porsche for their daily drive to work? Pretty much nobody. If you did, you'd get out of your building and see your car on cinder blocks because ghetto trash stole the wheels.

lol @ Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep all being at the bottom.

 

[Pantoot]

It might be that I am just really tired, but what is Ram (173)?

 

[punjabiplaya]

It might be that I am just really tired, but what is Ram (173)?

Dodge branded all its trucks under RAM

 

[BoberFett]

The top cars in the list are cars that nobody ever drives. Lincoln, Lexus, Jaguar, Porsche.

Nobody drives Lincolns? I see them everywhere.

 

[JulesMaximus]

That and the results have a bias against vehicles that are actually used for things. When is the last time anyone loaded 500 pounds of shingles into the trunk of a Jaguar? Fucking never. I did that last week in my car.


The top cars in the list are cars that nobody ever drives. Lincoln, Lexus, Jaguar, Porsche.
Who uses a Porsche for their daily drive to work? Pretty much nobody. If you did, you'd get out of your building and see your car on cinder blocks because ghetto trash stole the wheels.

lol @ Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep all being at the bottom.

I have a question. Is being stupid painful in any way?

My wife owns a 2006 Lexus IS we bought new in 2006. She has almost 80,000 miles on it currently. Her friend owns a 2002 Lexus she bought new and she has over 260,000 miles on hers.

I see people commuting everyday in Porsches, Jaguars, hell, I know a guy who commutes regularly in a Bentley Continental GT.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It confirms everything I gathered about Suzuki. I wanted an SX-4 AWD but can't do it.

They make great bikes but I would NEVER buy a Suzuki car.