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Disaster for the Democrats in the Senate

techs

Lifer
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Disaster. Depending on your source the Dems have 56 seats and in the 4 that are still in doubt the Republicans are leading.
The 56 includes Lieberman and Sanders.

While everyone was talking about 60 no one is talking about the huge difference between 56 and 58. With 56 the Republicans have 4 votes they can let Senators from moderate states use to show their independence and moderate views, while still enforcing a filibuster.

For example, Merkely and Collins are from states not in the grip of the radical right wing agenda and would find it hard to vote to filibuster bills very popular in their state. Now they don't have to.

Unlike the Democrats, the Republican Senators that still hold office are hugely dependent on the Republican National committee which thru their K-Street project now has huge influence since many Republican contributors now give to the Party and not the candidate which keeps the Senators in line.

It will be so much harder for the Dems to woo 4 Republicans (assuming all the Dems are on board) than it would be to woo only 2. And if it were only 2 then those Republicans like Merkely would stick out like a sore thumb in his moderate state.

To lose 4 seats by such small margins is a disaster.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Cry a little more. Democrats have solid majorities with a democrat president. He still has a rubberstamp to work with.

btw with the automatic recount in MN. I have a feeling democrats will magically find ballots in a trunk or dumpster that go 90% to Franken.
 

GenHoth

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Oh no, you only control government! Seriously dude, I can't believe you're whining about only having control of the house, senate and executive branch
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You will still hear the Republicans in here claiming Democrats have full control and everything is their fault.
Oh you mean like the democrats have for the past 8 years? Even if 2 of them were democrat and another 2 were split?

btw how did your McCain electoral prediciton turn out? Another failure by Dave.
 

techs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You will still hear the Republicans in here claiming Democrats have full control and everything is their fault.
QFT
 

GenHoth

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
You will still hear the Republicans in here claiming Democrats have full control and everything is their fault.
QFT
I must have missed the republican surprise victories on the hill/presidency :confused:
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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More rope for GOP to continue to hang itself with :)
If they try to govern through filibuster, they'll have a few more fun elections like 2006 and 2008.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Cry a little more.

Democrats have solid majorities with a democrat president.

He still has a rubberstamp to work with.
False, misleading and a Lie.

Will anyone stop Republican supporters from saying this clearly deceptive lie?
 

GenHoth

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Genx87
Cry a little more.

Democrats have solid majorities with a democrat president.

He still has a democratic majority to work with.
False, misleading and a Lie.

Will anyone stop Republican supporters from saying this clearly deceptive lie?
Happy? He also voted with that same party majority a large percentage of the time.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Avoiding complete one party rule in this country is hardly a disaster.
yea, i agree, im glad they dont controll everything
 

techs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Genx87
Cry a little more.

Democrats have solid majorities with a democrat president.

He still has a rubberstamp to work with.
False, misleading and a Lie.

Will anyone stop Republican supporters from saying this clearly deceptive lie?
I'm predicting a Truman like campaign in 2010 against a "Do nothing Republican filibuster Senate"

 

Arcex

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Mar 23, 2005
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Ya know what, we had several years of the GOP controlling this country without a majority by trotting out the word "terrorist" whenever they wanted something passed. Well we've seen where that has gotten us. I for one would like to see what the Dem's can accomplish with a technical majority.
 

Jhhnn

No Lifer
Nov 11, 1999
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Actually, I see it as an opportunity for moderate repubs to forge an alliance with bluedog democrats, create a sensible balance in the process...

Together, they can swing the Senate in whatever direction they choose...
 

Mursilis

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Mar 11, 2001
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Genx87
Cry a little more.

Democrats have solid majorities with a democrat president.

He still has a rubberstamp to work with.
False, misleading and a Lie.

Will anyone stop Republican supporters from saying this clearly deceptive lie?
I'm predicting a Truman like campaign in 2010 against a "Do nothing Republican filibuster Senate"
And we all know how accurate your predictions are!!
 

nageov3t

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and the 4 remaining seats seem to be leaning republican right now (wtf @ stevens!?!?)

a supermajority was always an outside hope, though, not something that anyone really expected.
 

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