Dirty Pig Scum >>>Disabled woman set on fire as Paris riots spread

[Kibbo86]

Originally posted by: irwincur


Muslims as a roup need to step up and begin denouncing this crap as the silence at the top every time there is a violent outburst against the West is deafening. It speaks volumes as to the real, hate everyone but us stance that they have taken up.

Try to argue this point - but show me where there is any common attempt for the leadership to decry violence.

Muslim religious leaders all over the world condemn terrorism:
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My question to you is this: How can you expect absolute unity among muslims, when there is no such unity among westerners? In any debate such as this there will be radicals on both sides of the issue. In any society.

And as for Allah being bloodthirsty, if you were to take a long view of history, do you think more people have been killed for Allah, or Yahweh?

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: dahunan
I wouldn't say that race predisposes anyone to anything... except not being a very good swimmer or not being able to jump as well as others

I can see that just because they are predominantly muslim does not mean that it has anything to do with the rioting.. it should actually stop them since they are supposed to be peaceful..

The riots are just a big embarassment for all involved especially for the rioters who are destroying their neighborhoods...

That makes about as much sense as saying the LA or Watts riots should of stopped because most rioters were black Christians and Christianty preaches peace.

Anyone who has been to France knows that the French barely tolerate non-white immigrants who they treat and view as non-French no matter what even if they are citizens. These riots have more to do with the intolerance and elitiest attuides of the French towards non-whites living in France then about religion.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: dahunan
I wouldn't say that race predisposes anyone to anything... except not being a very good swimmer or not being able to jump as well as others

I can see that just because they are predominantly muslim does not mean that it has anything to do with the rioting.. it should actually stop them since they are supposed to be peaceful..

The riots are just a big embarassment for all involved especially for the rioters who are destroying their neighborhoods...

That makes about as much sense as saying the LA or Watts riots should of stopped because most rioters were black Christians and Christianty preaches peace.

Anyone who has been to France knows that the French barely tolerate non-white immigrants who they treat and view as non-French no matter what even if they are citizens. These riots have more to do with the intolerance and elitiest attuides of the French towards non-whites living in France then about religion.

They weren't Christians if they were rioting.. were they They may have claimed to be Christians.. but that does not make them Christians in the eyes of JC

These riots have nothing to do with anyone other than those who are participating in them -- Period.. They CHOSE destruction of their living quarters and violent assaults on others as a mouthpiece.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: Kibbo86

Originally posted by: irwincur


Muslims as a Group need to step up and begin denouncing this crap as the silence at the top every time there is a violent outburst against the West is deafening. It speaks volumes as to the real, hate everyone but us stance that they have taken up.

Try to argue this point - but show me where there is any common attempt for the leadership to decry violence.

Muslim religious leaders all over the world condemn terrorism:
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My question to you is this: How can you expect absolute unity among muslims, when there is no such unity among westerners? In any debate such as this there will be radicals on both sides of the issue. In any society.

And as for Allah being bloodthirsty, if you were to take a long view of history, do you think more people have been killed for Allah, or Yahweh?

I appreciate what you're saying, but you must admit Muslim religious leaders have not made a very forceful case against terrorism.
A forceful case would involve the immediate, persistent and repeated issuance of Fatwas ABSOLUTELY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY condemning terrorism. These Fatwas would spell out how they apply to each specific large scale act of violence carried out thus far and would prohibit absolutely any further acts being carried out in the name of Allah. If they make it illegitimate, it will cease to be seen as a viable tool by those who want change.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: dahunan
I wouldn't say that race predisposes anyone to anything... except not being a very good swimmer or not being able to jump as well as others

I can see that just because they are predominantly muslim does not mean that it has anything to do with the rioting.. it should actually stop them since they are supposed to be peaceful..

The riots are just a big embarassment for all involved especially for the rioters who are destroying their neighborhoods...

That makes about as much sense as saying the LA or Watts riots should of stopped because most rioters were black Christians and Christianty preaches peace.

Anyone who has been to France knows that the French barely tolerate non-white immigrants who they treat and view as non-French no matter what even if they are citizens. These riots have more to do with the intolerance and elitiest attuides of the French towards non-whites living in France then about religion.

They weren't Christians if they were rioting.. were they They may have claimed to be Christians.. but that does not make them Christians in the eyes of JC

So I guess those rioting in France are not muslims using your arguement . Then again those who rioted in the Stamp Act riots during the era of the American revolution were not Christian either right ?

These riots have nothing to do with anyone other than those who are participating in them -- Period.. They CHOSE destruction of their living quarters and violent assaults on others as a mouthpiece.

No it's more like these riots are a explosion of frustration, and anger of a group of people who have not been treated like people belonging to the nation they live in and instead consistently treated like outsiders because they are not European.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: dahunan
I wouldn't say that race predisposes anyone to anything... except not being a very good swimmer or not being able to jump as well as others

I can see that just because they are predominantly muslim does not mean that it has anything to do with the rioting.. it should actually stop them since they are supposed to be peaceful..

The riots are just a big embarassment for all involved especially for the rioters who are destroying their neighborhoods...

That makes about as much sense as saying the LA or Watts riots should of stopped because most rioters were black Christians and Christianty preaches peace.

Anyone who has been to France knows that the French barely tolerate non-white immigrants who they treat and view as non-French no matter what even if they are citizens. These riots have more to do with the intolerance and elitiest attuides of the French towards non-whites living in France then about religion.

They weren't Christians if they were rioting.. were they They may have claimed to be Christians.. but that does not make them Christians in the eyes of JC

So I guess those rioting in France are not muslims using your arguement . Then again those who rioted in the Stamp Act riots during the era of the American revolution were not Christian either right ?

These riots have nothing to do with anyone other than those who are participating in them -- Period.. They CHOSE destruction of their living quarters and violent assaults on others as a mouthpiece.

No it's more like these riots are a explosion of frustration, and anger of a group of people who have not been treated like people belonging to the nation they live in and instead consistently treated like outsiders because they are not European.

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[jpeyton]

Meh, another Muslim bashing thread.

Riots are brought on by rage, not religion, you idiots. Rage over two dead immigrant teens. Rage over a black man getting beaten on the streets of LA without any recourse. Last time I checked, riots occur worlwide for a variety of reasons.

And murder is committed by people of all religions worldwide. But I guess Muslim is the flavor of the month for you guys.

My local paper had a nice picture of a Iraqi boy attending a child's funeral this week. The US bombed another "insurgent stronghold" and ended up killing Iraqi civilians yet again. What bloodthirsty God does the US army follow?

I guess with Bush's approval rating at an all time low, and the war in Iraq as big of a mess as ever, you guys have found solace in bashing Muslims that defending Bush had never provided. Luckily, this sort of behavior seems to be endemic of the US; people worldwide a lot more level headed about what is a religious conflict, what isn't, what drives people to do what they do, and who is to blame.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Meh, another Muslim bashing thread.

Riots are brought on by rage, not religion, you idiots. Rage over two dead immigrant teens. Rage over a black man getting beaten on the streets of LA without any recourse. Last time I checked, riots occur worlwide for a variety of reasons.

And murder is committed by people of all religions worldwide. But I guess Muslim is the flavor of the month for you guys.

My local paper had a nice picture of a Iraqi boy attending a child's funeral this week. The US bombed another "insurgent stronghold" and ended up killing Iraqi civilians yet again. What bloodthirsty God does the US army follow?

Terrorist sympathizer...

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
What bloodthirsty God does the US army follow?

It doesn't follow some sort of mythical sky daddy.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Meh, another Muslim bashing thread.

Riots are brought on by rage, not religion, you idiots. Rage over two dead immigrant teens. Rage over a black man getting beaten on the streets of LA without any recourse. Last time I checked, riots occur worlwide for a variety of reasons.

And murder is committed by people of all religions worldwide. But I guess Muslim is the flavor of the month for you guys.

My local paper had a nice picture of a Iraqi boy attending a child's funeral this week. The US bombed another "insurgent stronghold" and ended up killing Iraqi civilians yet again. What bloodthirsty God does the US army follow?

Terrorist sympathizer...

"You're either with us or against us"...puhleeze :roll: Typical apologist cop-out.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Meh, another Muslim bashing thread.

Riots are brought on by rage, not religion, you idiots. Rage over two dead immigrant teens. Rage over a black man getting beaten on the streets of LA without any recourse. Last time I checked, riots occur worlwide for a variety of reasons.

And murder is committed by people of all religions worldwide. But I guess Muslim is the flavor of the month for you guys.

My local paper had a nice picture of a Iraqi boy attending a child's funeral this week. The US bombed another "insurgent stronghold" and ended up killing Iraqi civilians yet again. What bloodthirsty God does the US army follow?

Terrorist sympathizer...

"You're either with us or against us"...puhleeze :roll: Typical apologist cop-out.

 

[dahunan]

OK -- I have already admitted that religion is not the motivator ...

I do wonder how these people can have a clear conscience about rioting and assaulting people and property... I don't have a clear conscience about murdering Iraqi citizens with my tax dollars.

Rage = Acceptable reason for rioting?

Y'all act like your knowledge of the reasoning is also acceptance of their behavior

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: dahunan
OK -- I have already admitted that religion is not the motivator ...

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am sure that Allah approves of this...

Uh huh :roll:

 

[1prophet]

I remember a friend of mine years ago from Puerto Rico who spoke excellent english as well as spanish and understood not just the two languages, but also how to use them in such a way that you would think either was his primary language and culture. He was able to easily work with spanish speaking and english speaking coworkers and also attend social functions of both comfortably.
I asked him what was his secret and he told me that when he was growing up in New York his parents would not let him speak english at home or among relatives when they were over. When he and his family were out among the general public he was not permitted to speak spanish and was allowed to only speak english when conversing with the public or his parents. He also told me that he had to respect his native culture and the culture of those in public he dealt with.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: dahunan
OK -- I have already admitted that religion is not the motivator ...

Originally posted by: dahunan
I am sure that Allah approves of this...

Uh huh :roll:

Without editing the original post.. BUT... can you deny that the population in the area of the riots is predominantly Muslim? << I know this does not mean that their religion is behind the choice to riot

Way to avoid the rest of what I said

 

[Agnostos Insania]

Originally posted by: Witling
I don't credit the street thugs with reading too much news, but when you live in a society where a person can collect millions while ruining a company and running it into the ground while at the same time hard (physical) work has lost it's economic value.

"The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people."
-Karl Marx

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Meh, another Muslim bashing thread.

Riots are brought on by rage, not religion, you idiots. Rage over two dead immigrant teens.

The two teens that ran and hid from police and were victims of natural selection, despite the fact that the police weren't even chasing them?

And murder is committed by people of all religions worldwide. But I guess Muslim is the flavor of the month for you guys.

Done by, not for. I don't hear of many people yelling out "Buddha forever!" before they detonate themselves.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan


Nice form of justice.. BTW, these particular form of Muslims there forced legislation that would remove Piglet Pic of Piglet and any other pig forms from schools and city streets etc..


How does DESTROYING something help bring a resolution? << I am refering to the RIOTING AND FIRES .. Doesn't it seem might fvcking retarded to burn your own neighborhood down?

Wouldn't the more important question be, "How does this riot connect to their religion at all?" We should aim to answer that first. Once we can establish the connection between religion and potential to riot, then we should freely talk about other things~

As for piglet...LOL Not that I care or anything, but just amusing from my perspective, especially since piglet is a character...not a main dish

the whole neighborhood is Predominantly Muslim ...

Yes, they fought hard and got Piglet removed and even the Piggy Bank... BASED ON religious whackoism... the sh1t that stops us from getting along

So? Does it matter if they are mainly Muslim? What if a mainly black neighborhood riots? Does that mean they riot because of the fact that being black leads them to be predisposed to this?

As for a the pig, if they get that removed in THEIR own neighborhoods...I'm assuming some kind of legislation pushed that through, which means they all voted. Can't complain about it. Personally I think its a little too much, but it doesn't seem anything too odd considering where I live is also one of the more conservative areas (albiet Christianity) so I also see weird stuff.

But seriously, if it is a predominantly Muslims neighborhood, and most vote for it...that is the democracy we want~ Those who are non Muslim should still have every right to buy piggy banks for their kids, watch "uncesnored tapes" of winnie the pooh, and eat pork...
lnd pointless It isn't like exposing your pigs to kids will make them fall in love with them...just seems like a lot of conservativeness. And to be conservative isn't bad or anything, but it sometimes it may seem very awkward

Please blacks haven't rioted in over a decade.

 

[arsbanned]

Well jpeyton is apparently THE authority on the situation in France and the rest of us are idiots.... OK then....

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan


Nice form of justice.. BTW, these particular form of Muslims there forced legislation that would remove Piglet Pic of Piglet and any other pig forms from schools and city streets etc..


How does DESTROYING something help bring a resolution? << I am refering to the RIOTING AND FIRES .. Doesn't it seem might fvcking retarded to burn your own neighborhood down?

Wouldn't the more important question be, "How does this riot connect to their religion at all?" We should aim to answer that first. Once we can establish the connection between religion and potential to riot, then we should freely talk about other things~

As for piglet...LOL Not that I care or anything, but just amusing from my perspective, especially since piglet is a character...not a main dish

the whole neighborhood is Predominantly Muslim ...

Yes, they fought hard and got Piglet removed and even the Piggy Bank... BASED ON religious whackoism... the sh1t that stops us from getting along

So? Does it matter if they are mainly Muslim? What if a mainly black neighborhood riots? Does that mean they riot because of the fact that being black leads them to be predisposed to this?

As for a the pig, if they get that removed in THEIR own neighborhoods...I'm assuming some kind of legislation pushed that through, which means they all voted. Can't complain about it. Personally I think its a little too much, but it doesn't seem anything too odd considering where I live is also one of the more conservative areas (albiet Christianity) so I also see weird stuff.

But seriously, if it is a predominantly Muslims neighborhood, and most vote for it...that is the democracy we want~ Those who are non Muslim should still have every right to buy piggy banks for their kids, watch "uncesnored tapes" of winnie the pooh, and eat pork...
lnd pointless It isn't like exposing your pigs to kids will make them fall in love with them...just seems like a lot of conservativeness. And to be conservative isn't bad or anything, but it sometimes it may seem very awkward

Please blacks haven't rioted in over a decade.

Katrina?

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan


Nice form of justice.. BTW, these particular form of Muslims there forced legislation that would remove Piglet Pic of Piglet and any other pig forms from schools and city streets etc..


How does DESTROYING something help bring a resolution? << I am refering to the RIOTING AND FIRES .. Doesn't it seem might fvcking retarded to burn your own neighborhood down?

Wouldn't the more important question be, "How does this riot connect to their religion at all?" We should aim to answer that first. Once we can establish the connection between religion and potential to riot, then we should freely talk about other things~

As for piglet...LOL Not that I care or anything, but just amusing from my perspective, especially since piglet is a character...not a main dish

the whole neighborhood is Predominantly Muslim ...

Yes, they fought hard and got Piglet removed and even the Piggy Bank... BASED ON religious whackoism... the sh1t that stops us from getting along

So? Does it matter if they are mainly Muslim? What if a mainly black neighborhood riots? Does that mean they riot because of the fact that being black leads them to be predisposed to this?

As for a the pig, if they get that removed in THEIR own neighborhoods...I'm assuming some kind of legislation pushed that through, which means they all voted. Can't complain about it. Personally I think its a little too much, but it doesn't seem anything too odd considering where I live is also one of the more conservative areas (albiet Christianity) so I also see weird stuff.

But seriously, if it is a predominantly Muslims neighborhood, and most vote for it...that is the democracy we want~ Those who are non Muslim should still have every right to buy piggy banks for their kids, watch "uncesnored tapes" of winnie the pooh, and eat pork...
lnd pointless It isn't like exposing your pigs to kids will make them fall in love with them...just seems like a lot of conservativeness. And to be conservative isn't bad or anything, but it sometimes it may seem very awkward

Please blacks haven't rioted in over a decade.

Katrina?

Uh yea the whole city was destroyed by a storm.

These jackasses are throwing a hissy fit over two retards who electrocuted themselves.

Give me a break. Its not like there was some video of a Muslim getting beaten to a pulp by authorities or something. There is no excuse for these savages.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan


Nice form of justice.. BTW, these particular form of Muslims there forced legislation that would remove Piglet Pic of Piglet and any other pig forms from schools and city streets etc..


How does DESTROYING something help bring a resolution? << I am refering to the RIOTING AND FIRES .. Doesn't it seem might fvcking retarded to burn your own neighborhood down?

Wouldn't the more important question be, "How does this riot connect to their religion at all?" We should aim to answer that first. Once we can establish the connection between religion and potential to riot, then we should freely talk about other things~

As for piglet...LOL Not that I care or anything, but just amusing from my perspective, especially since piglet is a character...not a main dish

the whole neighborhood is Predominantly Muslim ...

Yes, they fought hard and got Piglet removed and even the Piggy Bank... BASED ON religious whackoism... the sh1t that stops us from getting along

So? Does it matter if they are mainly Muslim? What if a mainly black neighborhood riots? Does that mean they riot because of the fact that being black leads them to be predisposed to this?

As for a the pig, if they get that removed in THEIR own neighborhoods...I'm assuming some kind of legislation pushed that through, which means they all voted. Can't complain about it. Personally I think its a little too much, but it doesn't seem anything too odd considering where I live is also one of the more conservative areas (albiet Christianity) so I also see weird stuff.

But seriously, if it is a predominantly Muslims neighborhood, and most vote for it...that is the democracy we want~ Those who are non Muslim should still have every right to buy piggy banks for their kids, watch "uncesnored tapes" of winnie the pooh, and eat pork...
lnd pointless It isn't like exposing your pigs to kids will make them fall in love with them...just seems like a lot of conservativeness. And to be conservative isn't bad or anything, but it sometimes it may seem very awkward

Please blacks haven't rioted in over a decade.

Katrina?

Uh yea the whole city was destroyed by a storm.

These jackasses are throwing a hissy fit over two retards who electrocuted themselves.

Give me a break. Its not like there was some video of a Muslim getting beaten to a pulp by authorities or something. There is no excuse for these savages.

These people are oppressed and feel like people just don't understand or accept them so they have every right to burn nearly 1000 automobiles and burn woman and children in busses and burn and destroy businesses... This is the path acceptance

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: dahunan


Nice form of justice.. BTW, these particular form of Muslims there forced legislation that would remove Piglet Pic of Piglet and any other pig forms from schools and city streets etc..


How does DESTROYING something help bring a resolution? << I am refering to the RIOTING AND FIRES .. Doesn't it seem might fvcking retarded to burn your own neighborhood down?

Wouldn't the more important question be, "How does this riot connect to their religion at all?" We should aim to answer that first. Once we can establish the connection between religion and potential to riot, then we should freely talk about other things~

As for piglet...LOL Not that I care or anything, but just amusing from my perspective, especially since piglet is a character...not a main dish

the whole neighborhood is Predominantly Muslim ...

Yes, they fought hard and got Piglet removed and even the Piggy Bank... BASED ON religious whackoism... the sh1t that stops us from getting along

So? Does it matter if they are mainly Muslim? What if a mainly black neighborhood riots? Does that mean they riot because of the fact that being black leads them to be predisposed to this?

As for a the pig, if they get that removed in THEIR own neighborhoods...I'm assuming some kind of legislation pushed that through, which means they all voted. Can't complain about it. Personally I think its a little too much, but it doesn't seem anything too odd considering where I live is also one of the more conservative areas (albiet Christianity) so I also see weird stuff.

But seriously, if it is a predominantly Muslims neighborhood, and most vote for it...that is the democracy we want~ Those who are non Muslim should still have every right to buy piggy banks for their kids, watch "uncesnored tapes" of winnie the pooh, and eat pork...
lnd pointless It isn't like exposing your pigs to kids will make them fall in love with them...just seems like a lot of conservativeness. And to be conservative isn't bad or anything, but it sometimes it may seem very awkward

Please blacks haven't rioted in over a decade.

Katrina?

Uh yea the whole city was destroyed by a storm.

These jackasses are throwing a hissy fit over two retards who electrocuted themselves.

Give me a break. Its not like there was some video of a Muslim getting beaten to a pulp by authorities or something. There is no excuse for these savages.

You said ''Please blacks havn't rioted in over a decade'' I was simply saying that people would consider the blacks in Katrina as rioters.

 

[sandorski]

The situation in France is getting out of hand. I would have expected this to die off on its' own as frustrations were vented and subsided, but it appears to now be feeding on itself. I think the only way this will stop is if there is a hard crackdown by the Police or even perhaps the Military. Other changes need to be made to ease the integration of the immigrants, hopefully these recent actions don't make that an even harder task than it was before.

 

[dahunan]

Easing the situation of the immigrants means forcing the leaders of their own countries to fix the problems that make them want to run away.

BTW, reports say that al-qaeda may be fueling the rioters.. possibly making it far worse than any of the actual citizens want it to be...

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Easing the situation of the immigrants means forcing the leaders of their own countries to fix the problems that make them want to run away.

BTW, reports say that al-qaeda may be fueling the rioters.. possibly making it far worse than any of the actual citizens want it to be...

What reports are those?