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trenchfoot

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So you're dipping into the heavy stuff tonight, have fun, enjoy the trip.

Nothing like having a sinful menage a trois watching Hannity going off on one of his boisterous rambling rants while frenching Capt. Morgan and draining Johnny Walker of everything he's got to offer. ;)
 

werepossum

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Please. DACA defined the Dreamers as our fellow Americans & now you want to take that away from them. What's right about that?
DACA did NOT define the "dreamers" as "our fellow Americans". It recognized that they are in violation of a law due to actions of a third party whilst they were minors and therefore deserve special consideration. You can whip out all fifty-two race cards in the proggie deck but it doesn't change the facts.
 
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werepossum

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The gestapo’s crimes primarily centered around public park access, it’s just the liberal media that makes you think it was about all the murder.

Just ask werepossum, he will tell you about how the gestapo was just another victim of liberal media bias.
Sometimes I wonder how you can even craft a sensible reply to anything given that you can only perceive reality through the tiniest of wormholes. Oh . . . right. You can't.

For the record, I have never maintained that any part of the National Socialists were victims of liberal media bias.
 

fskimospy

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Sometimes I wonder how you can even craft a sensible reply to anything given that you can only perceive reality through the tiniest of wormholes. Oh . . . right. You can't.

For the record, I have never maintained that any part of the National Socialists were victims of liberal media bias.

Thanks for clearing that up for the record, haha. I’m sure everyone else took it as seriously as you did. :)
 

Jhhnn

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DACA did NOT define the "dreamers" as "our fellow Americans". It recognized that they are in violation of a law due to actions of a third party whilst they were minors and therefore deserve special consideration. You can whip out all fifty-two race cards in the proggie deck but it doesn't change the facts.

Of course it did. It conferred the same rights to Dreamers as to legal immigrants. They're Americans, too, or at least on the path to becoming Citizens. People on that path enjoy the same basic rights as the rest of us other than voting & deportation for cause. Well, unless you don't see naturalized citizens as fellow Americans at all.

Kinda touchy about race, huh? I didn't mention it in the post you quoted. It underlies the whole thing, of course, given that conservatives probably wouldn't be nearly so hot to deport, say, Norwegians.
 

werepossum

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Of course it did. It conferred the same rights to Dreamers as to legal immigrants. They're Americans, too, or at least on the path to becoming Citizens. People on that path enjoy the same basic rights as the rest of us other than voting & deportation for cause. Well, unless you don't see naturalized citizens as fellow Americans at all.

Kinda touchy about race, huh? I didn't mention it in the post you quoted. It underlies the whole thing, of course, given that conservatives probably wouldn't be nearly so hot to deport, say, Norwegians.
I have every confidence that you can find someone to explain to you why "naturalized citizens" would be fellow Americans whereas DACA dreamers are not. I have zero confidence that you'll understand the explanation, but clearly that's because the person explaining it is racist, America is racist, and dividing people up into citizens and non-citizens is racist.
 

Jhhnn

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I have every confidence that you can find someone to explain to you why "naturalized citizens" would be fellow Americans whereas DACA dreamers are not. I have zero confidence that you'll understand the explanation, but clearly that's because the person explaining it is racist, America is racist, and dividing people up into citizens and non-citizens is racist.

Nice dodge with innuendo. You introduced race, not me. It's your thing. It fits right in with your whole original sin outlook on Dreamers' immigration status, too. That's the only real rationale to deny them what they have.

But do go on about how a petty, vindictive, cruel & dishonorable policy is really what we want. Rationalize the fuckover if you can.