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Aegeon

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I'm saying it won't happen. Who would be a big enough idiot to charge a priest with giving mass when the priest is a contract employee? No one, the only difference is the Obama Administration made a big deal about it in his 2013 shutdown. Selective? Hell yes, you're the one who's supporting the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, not me.
The Obama administration didn't make a big deal, they simply applied the law properly and some sources appeared to intentionally misrepresent the situation or at least fail to understand this was not about being anti-Catholic or something.

Realistically the contract priest might have been conceivably fired or suspended (more likely suspended since the Obama admin would not like the politics of excessively cracking down either) for violating the rules, with the main real consequence occurring for the supervisor who is probably a true member of the military and not supposed to allow this. (Its not like the priest's long term career would be working for the military and they are going to be on the street otherwise.) Now technically speaking there could theoretically be a situation where the priest was designated an unauthorized personnel to enter the base for the duration of the shutdown and intentionally created a scene by trying to force their way in anyways, but obviously the Obama administration would have tried to avoid making it a criminal matter if they possibly could avoid it.
 
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The Obama administration didn't make a big deal, they simply applied the law properly and some sources appeared to intentionally misrepresent the situation or at least fail to understand this was not about being anti-Catholic or something.

Realistically the contract priest might have been conceivably fired or suspended (more likely suspended since the Obama admin would not like the politics of excessively cracking down either) for violating the rules, with the main real consequence occurring for the supervisor who is a true member of the military and not supposed to allow this. (Its not like the priest's long term career would be working for the military and they are going to be on the street otherwise.) Now technically speaking there could theoretically be a situation where the priest was designated an unauthorized personnel to enter the base for the duration of the shutdown and intentionally created a scene by trying to force their way in anyways, but obviously the Obama administration would have tried to avoid making it a criminal matter if they possibly could avoid it.
They did make a big deal about it, hence the published at the time story. I wish he had paid as much attention to the law before screwing us all over with the illegal DACA garbage.

Remember when Obama tried to shut down Mt. Vernon?
https://www.inquisitr.com/980229/na...on-feel-silly-when-told-its-privately-funded/
 

Aegeon

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They did make a big deal about it, hence the published at the time story. I wish he had paid as much attention to the law before screwing us all over with the illegal DACA garbage.
This is simply being untruthful or mistaken on your part.

The people making a big deal of it were Fox News and some conservative religious organizations, and certainly not the Obama administration. It certainly would have been highly irresponsible to at least not give the contract priests advanced proper notice and then suddenly punish them for violating the rules after the fact. (The actual details of what the military officials said were actually pretty standard for this sort of situation as far as I could determine from what specific information the article really provided.)

As noted, you have zero evidence the Trump administration handled things noticeably differently other than unsurprisingly conservative media and politically conservative religious organizations apparently has not made a big of it so far if they did the same thing.
 
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(translation) Hail Trump!

btw, if it had been the Gestapo, they would have been dead or in a concentration camp.

The gestapo’s crimes primarily centered around public park access, it’s just the liberal media that makes you think it was about all the murder.

Just ask werepossum, he will tell you about how the gestapo was just another victim of liberal media bias.
 
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Jhhnn

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So you're don't believe in the rule of law when it's inconvenient for your political opinions, yes we got it Jhhnn.

Says the defender of armed insurrectionists. Seeing as how they abandoned common decency long ago it's obvious that the Trumpublicans need greater inducement in order to do the right thing, huh?
 
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Says the defender of armed insurrectionists. Seeing as how they abandoned common decency long ago it's obvious that the Trumpublicans need greater inducement in order to do the right thing, huh?
You defend hundred of thousands of criminals.
 
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You are a hypocrite who doesn’t support the rule of law when it conflicts with your political opinions.

Are you really this unaware of yourself or is it deliberate?
You're the hypocrite that supports the hundreds of thousands of criminal and illegal aliens in this country just because you think it may be politically advantageous in the future.
 
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You are a hypocrite who doesn’t support the rule of law when it conflicts with your political opinions.

Are you really this unaware of yourself or is it deliberate?

C'mon, you know he's desperate to 'make liberals cry'. He's simply a little fascista trying to troll the grownups.
 

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When you wake up each day, how are you able to find the floor?
He's too busy reading the tweets. Weird Al should remake the Doobie Brothers Takin' it to the streets replacing streets with tweets.
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You're the hypocrite that supports the hundreds of thousands of criminal and illegal aliens in this country just because you think it may be politically advantageous in the future.
and you support a child molester by proxy and also call for the murder of children crossing the border illegally. Don't really have any moral high ground to get purchase on there tajjy.
 
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Jhhnn

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You're the hypocrite that supports the hundreds of thousands of criminal and illegal aliens in this country just because you think it may be politically advantageous in the future.

That's not the reason, Taj. It's just the only honest & decent way to deal with innocent people. This great country can well afford to claim the Dreamers as our own.
 
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You're the hypocrite that supports the hundreds of thousands of criminal and illegal aliens in this country just because you think it may be politically advantageous in the future.
We support them because, unlike you, they are a positive for America. They are good people who grew up as Americans and contribute to our growth and prosperity.
 
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We support them because, unlike you, they are a positive for America. They are good people who grew up as Americans and contribute to our growth and prosperity.
You don't even know who they are or what they are doing, you're just parroting a Democrat talking point.
 

Jhhnn

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You don't even know who they are or what they are doing, you're just parroting a Democrat talking point.

I figure they're like the rest of America in that age group. Well, unless you can substantiate reasons to vilify them as you have been.
 

Meghan54

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I figure they're like the rest of America in that age group. Well, unless you can substantiate reasons to vilify them as you have been.

The problem is Tajjy is using himself as the standard to judge those being affected by the DACA situation. And given what Tajjy presents here, his standard is rather low....so immigrants are shifty, lazy, liars, thieves, sub-human......you know, all the traits Tajjy finds admirable in himself.
 
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The problem is Tajjy is using himself as the standard to judge those being affected by the DACA situation. And given what Tajjy presents here, his standard is rather low....so immigrants are shifty, lazy, liars, thieves, sub-human......you know, all the traits Tajjy finds admirable in himself.
Just from the stench I can tell where you pulled that mass of crap from.