Did you You get a degree?

oldman420

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I was wondering if in the real world peoples level of education is a large factor in their feeling of satisfaction and contentment with life?
I did not go to college and now that I'm old I make a living and thats about it.
no retirement for me it's manual labor until I get too old and then?
Maybe I should start playing the lotto.;)
 

ingenuiti

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For some people a degree may not help them too much for what they want to do, but I doubt it will ever hurt them.
 
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Yes, I have a degree.

It hasn't tought me to be an engineer. it has tought me to think for myself.

What I've though? That I wasted 4 years. Don't get me wrong, I have a good job, but it all comes down to money. Some day you'll realize this. Now I jsut ponder, why not just be a waiter for those 4 years. Waiters probably make more in ti[ps annually then I make in a year. Of course, you would have to build your career as a waiter, but fact of the matter is......

I've also learned that engineering is the most sh!t upon profession there is. For what we do, we are the most underpaid profession that exists.

Luckily, my background in mathematics made me reailze the power of compunding. I now alot of smart people. Lawyers, doctors, etc. They "invest" but bring up the concept of compounding and they are lost.

What I really learned:
$50,000*(1.15^20) = $818,326.87

Yayyyy

 

ingenuiti

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Yes, I have a degree.

It hasn't tought me to be an engineer. it has tought me to think for myself.

What I've though? That I wasted 4 years. Don't get me wrong, I have a good job, but it all comes down to money. Some day you'll realize this. Now I jsut ponder, why not just be a waiter for those 4 years. Waiters probably make more in ti[ps annually then I make in a year. Of course, you would have to build your career as a waiter, but fact of the matter is......

I've also learned that engineering is the most sh!t upon profession there is. For what we do, we are the most underpaid profession that exists.

Luckily, my background in mathematics made me reailze the power of compunding. I now alot of smart people. Lawyers, doctors, etc. They "invest" but bring up the concept of compounding and they are lost.

What I really learned:
$50,000*(1.15^20) = $818,326.87

Yayyyy

The rate of return in your future value of a lump sum equation is relatively high. I myself prefer the long term compounding effects on an annuity:)
 

DurocShark

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I have no degree... I've probably reached the limit of what I can do without that fscking piece of paper.

I'm currently a Business System Analyst. If I want to go higher, I'll have to go into management. And all my competition for the management spots have degrees. Sigh....
 

StageLeft

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yes, and definitely, even though it's a "useless" BSc in psychology. My major was a joke, no doubt about that. But, without a degree right now I'd not be nearly as set. I'm glad I got it.
 

Svnla

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Yes, I have two, one BS and one MBA.

Was it worth it? I guess so but there are a lot of people without a degree making more money than I am.
 

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Yes, I have two, one BS and one MBA.

Was it worth it? I guess so but there are a lot of people without a degree making more money than I am.
And there always will be, just as there will be even more without degrees making less :) It's a statistical fact that degrees pay for themselves and then some in the majority of cases, over a lifetime. That's just from a money standpoint, and not any additional "education" from said degree.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I've also learned that engineering is the most sh!t upon profession there is. For what we do, we are the most underpaid profession that exists.

You took the words right out of my mouth.
 

Taggart

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Yes, I have two, one BS and one MBA.

Was it worth it? I guess so but there are a lot of people without a degree making more money than I am.

Bill Gates and Michael Dell don't have degrees :)

As for getting the degree, it may not guarantee success and/or financial stability, but it sure improves the odds. I lost my job in May, and just recently was able to find another job. If that degree hadn't been on my resume I'd be working at Wal-Mart instead of learning to be a network engineer.
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Svnla
Yes, I have two, one BS and one MBA.

Was it worth it? I guess so but there are a lot of people without a degree making more money than I am.
And there always will be, just as there will be even more without degrees making less :) It's a statistical fact that degrees pay for themselves and then some in the majority of cases, over a lifetime. That's just from a money standpoint, and not any additional "education" from said degree.

I agree with you but when you saw a union guy that barely able to read and write and made over 100k a year just to mop the floor, while you have two degrees...LOL. Anyway, just my 2 cents rants.
 

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Yes, I have a degree.

It hasn't tought me to be an engineer. it has tought me to think for myself.
It certainly didn't teach you how to spell "taught."
 

lykaon78

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Yes, I got a degree.

In some ways it has helped. I got my first job in a tight market probably becuase I had a degree (of the five people hired at the same time I was 1 of 2 to have a degree). Unfortunately, my degree has little bearing on what I uctually do - I majored in political science and economics and I work in life insurance.

Overall, the piece of paper I got helps my resume and gives me an advantage over people who don't have a degree.
 

amdskip

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Should have my degree in May of 06, hopefully the job market will be better then it is now.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Svnla
Yes, I have two, one BS and one MBA.

Was it worth it? I guess so but there are a lot of people without a degree making more money than I am.
And there always will be, just as there will be even more without degrees making less :) It's a statistical fact that degrees pay for themselves and then some in the majority of cases, over a lifetime. That's just from a money standpoint, and not any additional "education" from said degree.

I agree with you but when you saw a union guy that barely able to read and write and made over 100k a year just to mop the floor, while you have two degrees...LOL. Anyway, just my 2 cents rants.

Could he form coherent sentences?

Edit: Yes, and it is now.
 

CrazyDe1

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If you want to get a job and work for someone else a degree is valuable. For one it gets you in the door and shows you can work hard. For another promotions are hard without a degree. When I had my internship I was thinking I can't believe they're paying me this much to implement this when all I'm doing is looking up how to do it on the internet and almost anyone could do it but the only reason why I got the job is because I was going to school or had a degree. Hell, when my dad used to come home and tell me about his job I was like so I could do what you are doing? He was like yep it's not very hard but they pay me a ridiculous amount to do it.

That being said, you can be very very successful without ever going to college if success is measured on how much you make. It's harder to do so in a corporate environment but if you possess the skills and have good ideas it's very possible. The problem is most people either 1. Need money to make money or 2. Don't have good ideas to start comopanies until they've been working for someone and an idea spawns from that on how they could do something better or attack a niche market. 3. Have the ability to stomach risk and not get a steady paycheck.

As for engineers being looked down upon that's not true at all. If you're technical and have a good business sense and understand the business you'll be the first one promoted I gaurantee you. At corporations most middle level and upper level managers were once engineers with MBAs. Also, if you look at a lot of CEOs they started with a technical background.
 

alm99

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Yes, and in some ways. I haven't completely reaped the benefits of having the degree since I am still early in my career, but in the long run it will. I wouldn't even imagine not having a degree in today's society. I am currently working towards my master's since there are so many with an undergrad degree that it makes competition tough.
 

Anubis

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Yes

No i graduated in May, still cant get a job, im going BACK to school in feb so its not all bad ill let you konw in a few years