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Did you tune in to live coverage of SHOCK AND AWE

did you tune in to live coverage of SHOCK AND AWE

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  • Yes, I did and I am a Christian

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dahunan

dahunan

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It was on CNN and ABC etc.

When we dropped bombs paid for with your tax dollars on a sovereign nation that never once attacked America

^^ Innocent people were killed with those bombs you know..
 
Anyone else think this is heading towards a lock?

I honestly don't remember if I specifically tuned in, but I saw some video of it. I thought the shock and awe campaign was profoundly useless and retarded.
 
This is caused by the blind ones who think the US does nothing wrong and that we are the most benevolent nation on earth or ever in existence

People sit back in the cheap chinese made desk chair with their cheap ass pc's and hurl insults at whole cultures or nations etc without EVER looking in their own mirrors

Doesn't it seem creepy .. that something like SHOCK AND AWE was televised??

Children
Senior Citizens
Grandparents
Newlyweds
babies

were killed by Shock and Awe.. but WESTERN CULTURE televised it
 
dahunan said:
^^ Innocent people were killed with those bombs you know..
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Yes, war has a habit of doing that.

I was watching it on CNN from the Richmond Greyhound station at around 3 or 4 AM. Pretty cool footage actually, definitely livened up my night.
 
dahunan said:
This is caused by the blind ones who think the US does nothing wrong and that we are the most benevolent nation on earth or ever in existence

People sit back in the cheap chinese made desk chair with their cheap ass pc's and hurl insults at whole cultures or nations etc without EVER looking in their own mirrors

Doesn't it seem creepy .. that something like SHOCK AND AWE was televised??

Children
Senior Citizens
Grandparents
Newlyweds
babies

were killed by Shock and Awe.. but WESTERN CULTURE televised it
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I'll probably regret feeding the troll, but here goes . . .
It was televised because it was a major news event. Plenty of news outlets in the Arab world televised the Pentagon burning and the Twin Towers coming down - what do you make of that? Every culture can and has been cruel. Look at the Japanese treatment of prisoners and occupied peoples during WWII - much worse that the German treatment of POWs and occupied peoples (except Jews) during the same time period. Heck, I've actually seen organized animal fights in Asia, where it is neither illegal nor uncommon. Your indictment of western culture rings hollow.
 
hunan, you think news media should not cover major news events? If current day media options existed today, you don't think D-Day would have been covered the same way? Of course people watched it, it's newsworthy.
 
dahunan said:
This is caused by the blind ones who think the US does nothing wrong and that we are the most benevolent nation on earth or ever in existence

People sit back in the cheap chinese made desk chair with their cheap ass pc's and hurl insults at whole cultures or nations etc without EVER looking in their own mirrors

Doesn't it seem creepy .. that something like SHOCK AND AWE was televised??

Children
Senior Citizens
Grandparents
Newlyweds
babies

were killed by Shock and Awe.. but WESTERN CULTURE televised it
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I watched it but my emotion was not creepy. Very questionable yes, but now the television technology exists and the shock and awe campaign is documented for historians and possible future war crimes tribunals to peruse.

What is perhaps most revolting to me is that this was the first war in history in which the leader of another country was deliberately targeted for murder, as GWB jumped the gun on the intel that Saddam was hiding in a given house.

And while smart bombs are quite impressive accuracy wise, shock and awe and air power proved to be of limited value. Good at killing people and breaking things, but the Iraqi insurgencies formed up almost as fast as our US troops reached Baghdad. As US quickly discovered, our greatest enemy was the anarchy our invasion towed in its wake.

As General Petraeus noted last week, as we prepare to cease combat operations in Iraq, the final history of the US occupation is yet to be written. We may all hope a stable Iraq will emerge, but its very possible, that Iraq may disintegrate into a civil war that spills way past Iraqi borders.

As an American citizen, I am so ashamed that my nation allowed GWB&co to engage in
this entire Iraqi clusterfuck. And in terms of US blood and treasure, its been a huge cost, but in terms of bloodshed and human misery, the Iraqi people have paid a far higher price.

But the same Donald Rumsfeld who 1/4 century ago was shaking Saddams hand and urging Saddam to buy weapons and poison Gas had to kill Saddam to shut him up. And now dead men tell no tales.
 
BoberFett said:
Another long night of drinking, eh?
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lol
What is perhaps most revolting to me is that this was the first war in history in which the leader of another country was deliberately targeted for murder
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LOL?!
And while smart bombs are quite impressive accuracy wise, shock and awe and air power proved to be of limited value.
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Actually, it worked very well. It sport f@*#ed the Iraqi army and it was a useless mess in no time at all. The fact that the rest of the war has been a poorly managed clusterf*** is not the fault of the air campaign, though.
As an American citizen, I am so ashamed that my nation allowed GWB&co to engage in
this entire Iraqi clusterfuck.
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Lots of agreement here. Bush was the worst president in literally decades if not to be honest a hundred years, or more. That is assuming some miraculous recovery of Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't happen over the next several years proving him right. I think that unlikely. I am actually drawing a blank on which US president has opened the country up to more criticism or managed a war worse although Vietnam or Korea could be good arguments. It's hard to know how things would have played out otherwise of course.
 
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Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Watched it streaming live at work, until they blocked it.

Success in battle != success in war. Not going to plow this field again.
 
dahunan said:
When we dropped bombs paid for with your tax dollars on a sovereign nation that never once attacked America
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Iraq paid the price of invading Kuwait. 13 years late, but that's what they got for taunting the cease fire. Had the Gulf War never occured, OIF never would have either.
 
The fascination with violence and destruction is part of our human nature. A group of Buddhist monks deep in meditation will look up and stare at a donkey cart whose driver has tipped over and broke his neck.
 
Watched some of it when I got home from work. Thought it was impressive, but the whole war was BS and it was obvious before it even started.

Basically it was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95qvMQU0etw

Showing off, dancing around before a fight, then getting knocked the F out.
No we didn't lose, but not sure what the hell we actually won or accomplished for all the blood, treasure and respect we lost.
 
You forgot to add "Watched in horror"


Every time I saw something blow up I thought "wonder how many children were hit"

What amazed me most was the bloodlust and glee some people had to the pyrotechnics...

Dick Cheney and the hawks got their way and were soooooo happy to get to play with their toys..... laser guided bombs, stealth tech etc...


What did we learn?
 
Apparently shock and awe didn't really hurt anything as it was the looters that destroyed Iraq's infrastructure.
 
IronWing said:
Apparently shock and awe didn't really hurt anything as it was the looters that destroyed Iraq's infrastructure.
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so those power plants and roads and bridges and factories didnt count then?


Looters take TVs and radios and food. They dont take a six ton transformer.
 
manimal said:
so those power plants and roads and bridges and factories didnt count then?


Looters take TVs and radios and food. They dont take a six ton transformer.
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Don't you be contradicting Cheney, Bush, and Powell. They said it was looters. That settles it.
 
manimal said:
You forgot to add "Watched in horror"


Every time I saw something blow up I thought "wonder how many children were hit"

What amazed me most was the bloodlust and glee some people had to the pyrotechnics...

Dick Cheney and the hawks got their way and were soooooo happy to get to play with their toys..... laser guided bombs, stealth tech etc...


What did we learn?
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That next time the military should be more careful, because they completely missed your house.
 
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