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Chiropteran

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The singularity you speak of has already occurred, almost 500 years ago. Technology is far more advanced than you think it is. The world you think you live in is actually a prison for your mind.
 
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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Turkish
You need to stop watching Terminator.

This is not based on any movie or fictional work. I am also not under the influence of mind-altering substances. It is based on our current technological progress and the evidence of the exponential growth of advancement of our civilization.

Been reading Michio Kaku then have you?

We are still several generations away from having our conciousness transferred to an artificial body.

We are however possibly the parents of children that will be able to have double if not more their lifespan. Since aging has been found to be genetic, it is only a matter of time before that gene can be turned off at a particular point in ones life and in theory make humans ageless.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: scott916
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: scott916
in the absence of actually being able to prove the existence of a human soul, what separates a computer with the ability to learn and the same computational and problem solving capacity of the human brain and your own mind? Would it be 'alive'?

The computer will indeed be alive. However, it cannot go to heaven or hell.

Because it doesn't accept digital jesus as his lord and backup program?

:music: Your own... digital... jesus... someone to back up your brain, someone to block email chains... :music:

lol!!!
 
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Originally posted by: scott916
The. Worst. Dude.

EDIT: OK, I won't JUST be a smartass.

Since we will be approaching such a level of technical advancement, let me ask you this question I often ponder when I get REALLY high (hehe)... in the absence of actually being able to prove the existence of a human soul, what separates a computer with the ability to learn and the same computational and problem solving capacity of the human brain and your own mind? Would it be 'alive'?

In order for a computer to rival humans a huge, huge leap in processing technolgy will need to take place.
The human brain is a true multi-processor, in that it can simultaneously process vast amounts of information. Think about it. You can hear, see, smell, touch, feel, and speak all at once with no effort put forth on your part. This is all happening while other functions are happening in your brain such as recording memories, regulating heartbeat, breathing and other bodily functions.
A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time. While it may give the illusion that it is doing multiple things at once, it is doing them in series, and just dividing up it's process times. Until a processor can be developed that can rival a human being in processing we are in no danger.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Turkish
You need to stop watching Terminator.

This is not based on any movie or fictional work. I am also not under the influence of mind-altering substances. It is based on our current technological progress and the evidence of the exponential growth of advancement of our civilization.

You *do* realize some people still sh!t in buckets? I think we're a ways off from the technological progress you speak of.
 

Aharami

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Ive never wanted to punch another ATOTer in the face...until you started posting
 

effowe

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time. While it may give the illusion that it is doing multiple things at once, it is doing them in series, and just dividing up it's process times. Until a processor can be developed that can rival a human being in processing we are in no danger.

Err, isn't that what multi-core processors are, multiple threads being processed simultaneously?
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: effowe
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time. While it may give the illusion that it is doing multiple things at once, it is doing them in series, and just dividing up it's process times. Until a processor can be developed that can rival a human being in processing we are in no danger.

Err, isn't that what multi-core processors are, multiple threads being processed simultaneously?

big difference is that the brain is truly parallel. crossing of threads do not cause memory corruption like in computers.
 

effowe

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: effowe
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time. While it may give the illusion that it is doing multiple things at once, it is doing them in series, and just dividing up it's process times. Until a processor can be developed that can rival a human being in processing we are in no danger.

Err, isn't that what multi-core processors are, multiple threads being processed simultaneously?

big difference is that the brain is truly parallel. crossing of threads do not cause memory corruption like in computers.

Ah good point, but regardless, we are approaching this sort of technology at a rapid pace, it is only a matter of time.
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
In a few years our machines, computers, and technological advances will have reached a point in which those same computers and machines will be able to develop even better machines and computers, starting a feedback cycle of technological development which will culminate in the ability of the uman race to merge with machines and expand our minds, bodies, and even our own lifespan. Death will be significantly delayed or even prevented. The brain will become an easily-accessible source of information, just like what a memory chip is right now. There are no limits as what we can do. We will even be able to harness the power of the Sun, nearby stars and even the whole galaxy. Sadly, the rest of the Universe will still be unreachable.

Avery Brooks has a question for you.
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: effowe
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: effowe
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time. While it may give the illusion that it is doing multiple things at once, it is doing them in series, and just dividing up it's process times. Until a processor can be developed that can rival a human being in processing we are in no danger.

Err, isn't that what multi-core processors are, multiple threads being processed simultaneously?

big difference is that the brain is truly parallel. crossing of threads do not cause memory corruption like in computers.

Ah good point, but regardless, we are approaching this sort of technology at a rapid pace, it is only a matter of time.

I am not so sure. The big problem is getting computers to behave more analogue.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time.

This is incorrect. Single-core, superscalar, out-of-order processors have been capable of issuing, executing, and committing more than one instruction at a time for quite awhile now. The information certainly doesn't pass through one bit at a time. Obviously multi-core chips take this idea a step further.

I agree that's it's still a far cry from a human brain, however.

 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

A processor, no matter how advanced right now can only process one command at a time. All information must be lined up and sent through the processor one bit at a time.

This is incorrect. Single-core, superscalar, out-of-order processors have been capable of issuing, executing, and committing more than one instruction at a time for quite awhile now. The information certainly doesn't pass through one bit at a time. Obviously multi-core chips take this idea a step further.

I agree that's it's still a far cry from a uman brain, however.

Fixed.
 

yoda291

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Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Turkish
You need to stop watching Terminator.

This is not based on any movie or fictional work. I am also not under the influence of mind-altering substances. It is based on our current technological progress and the evidence of the exponential growth of advancement of our civilization.

I'm gonna quote my calculus professor here.

Show your work or you're full of spit.
 

Evadman

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along the same line, my genie aparently works. I posted this like a year ago, and 1 is now true.

If I had a genie I can think of a few things that would be cool. My first wish would be that everyone would have a functional penis attached to their left wrist. My second wish would be that everyone had a vagina in the usual place. I'm not really sure about my third wish. It's a toss up between wishing for seven primary colors instead of three, or wishing that you can divide by zero. Both would be pretty cool, but I'm leaning more toward the extra colors. That way everyone could look at the psychedelic light show as they had fun with their new genitalia. It's just my way of giving something back to the world. Think about what it would mean. Crime would drop to nothing overnight. Problems like depression and anxiety disorders would go away. No one would ever be bored. No one would ever kill themselves, or feel sorry for themselves. Saying, "Go screw yourself" would no longer be an insult, but an affectionate way of saying goodbye. Mountain Dew would be available in a variety of fruity new colors. In short, in would be the Golden Age of mankind, and I would be its herald. In some primitive tribes, I would be worshipped as a god. All would love me!

But if I wished for that divide by zero thing, then that funky proof where one equals two would work. What would that mean for the universe? Would one being two depend on your perspective? Maybe we could all perform miracles like feeding a million people with one crumb of bread because we could turn each crumb into two over and over again. That would be cool, and a useful thing to have access to in a world where everyone is humping themselves all day long because no one would feel like working anymore. But we would lose all the funky colors and the fruity new Mountain Dew. Choices, choices!
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: Turkish
You need to stop watching Terminator.

This is not based on any movie or fictional work. I am also not under the influence of mind-altering substances. It is based on our current technological progress and the evidence of the exponential growth of advancement of our civilization.

You *do* realize some people still sh!t in buckets? I think we're a ways off from the technological progress you speak of.

Buckets?

I use a hole in the ground.