Did the cops do the right thing?

[Turkish]

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[slag]

Most definitely yes.

They took a dangerous driver off the roadway.

I support what the officer(s) did 100%.

The only persons at fault were the people in the vehicle, specifically the driver.

 

No, certainly not. The police should have deployed a Georgia State Patrol helicopter and called off the motor chase. Bad decision. DWLS is not a reason to effectively committ manslaughter upon two people, one of whom was innocent.

Not only were the lives of those being chased at risk, but the troopers themselves put their lives in unnecessary danger.

They should NOT have chased that car.

 

[rpl318]

Yep, that's a common tactic used in a chase.

 

[flloyd]

Definitely. Evading police, particularly at extremely high speeds on busy highways, is one thing that I don't belive the public or police should have any tolerance of. It is unfortunate that they chose to run when they had relatively minor infractions but the fact remains that they made that decision for themselves. Imagine the outrage had the SUV rear ended a family of four at 100 MPH. And no jumper the police did not kill them, the driver killed themselves.

 

Originally posted by: flloyd
Definitely. Evading police, particularly at extremely high speeds on busy highways, is one thing that I don't belive the public or police should have any tolerance of. It is unfortunate that they chose to run when they had relatively minor infractions but the fact remains that they made that decision for themselves. Imagine the outrage had the SUV rear ended a family of four at 100 MPH. And no jumper the police did not kill them, the driver killed themselves.

What if the police had hit an uninvolved motorist in the process of chasing this driver? Is it okay to kill an innocent bystander in the name of 'justice?' Keep in mind, the only crime the offending driver committed was DWLS, which is a misdemeanor in Michigan.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: slag
Most definitely yes.

They took a dangerous driver off the roadway.

I support what the officer(s) did 100%.

The only persons at fault were the people in the vehicle, specifically the driver.

How do you know the passenger was at fault?

 

[Chaotic42]

Absolutely

 

[rpl318]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: flloyd
Definitely. Evading police, particularly at extremely high speeds on busy highways, is one thing that I don't belive the public or police should have any tolerance of. It is unfortunate that they chose to run when they had relatively minor infractions but the fact remains that they made that decision for themselves. Imagine the outrage had the SUV rear ended a family of four at 100 MPH. And no jumper the police did not kill them, the driver killed themselves.

What if the police had hit an uninvolved motorist in the process of chasing this driver? Is it okay to kill an innocent bystander in the name of 'justice?' Keep in mind, the only crime the offending driver committed was DWLS, which is a misdemeanor in Michigan.

So the police should never chase somebody who runs if they didn't commit a serious crime?

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: slag
Most definitely yes.

They took a dangerous driver off the roadway.

I support what the officer(s) did 100%.

The only persons at fault were the people in the vehicle, specifically the driver.

How do you know the passenger was at fault?

I don't, thats why I clarified, the driver in a separate part of the sentence.

 

[everman]

hm around here they usually just keep following them with cars and helicopters. Pit manuver at that speed seems stupid.

 

[MarklarMarklar]

I don't know, but what I do know is you better lookout for the repost police. Link

 

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: flloyd
Definitely. Evading police, particularly at extremely high speeds on busy highways, is one thing that I don't belive the public or police should have any tolerance of. It is unfortunate that they chose to run when they had relatively minor infractions but the fact remains that they made that decision for themselves. Imagine the outrage had the SUV rear ended a family of four at 100 MPH. And no jumper the police did not kill them, the driver killed themselves.

What if the police had hit an uninvolved motorist in the process of chasing this driver? Is it okay to kill an innocent bystander in the name of 'justice?' Keep in mind, the only crime the offending driver committed was DWLS, which is a misdemeanor in Michigan.

So the police should never chase somebody who runs if they didn't commit a serious crime?

Don't get me wrong, I support police chases. Christ, you deserve to get your ass thrown in jail if you run from the cops. However, extreme high-speed chases on busy highways (which this one obviously was) are dangerous and (IMHO) show that the police exercise negligence by risking their OWN lives, in addition to those of the other, uninvolved drivers on the road.

IMHO, the patrol supervisor should have called off this chase when it reached 100 mph, especially considering the amount of traffic on the highway. It's not like the officers didn't get a plate for the vehicle. They wouldn't have been able to hide from the law. Now, two people are dead and over what? Fleeing and eluding and DWLS. :\

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: MarklarMarklar
I don't know, but what I do know is you better lookout for the repost police. Link

THIS IS THE REPOST POLICE... CEASE POSTING IMMEDIATELY!

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: jumpr
No, certainly not. The police should have deployed a Georgia State Patrol helicopter and called off the motor chase. Bad decision. DWLS is not a reason to effectively committ manslaughter upon two people, one of whom was innocent.

Not only were the lives of those being chased at risk, but the troopers themselves put their lives in unnecessary danger.

They should NOT have chased that car.

completely agree with the helicopter idea

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: rpl318

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: flloyd
Definitely. Evading police, particularly at extremely high speeds on busy highways, is one thing that I don't belive the public or police should have any tolerance of. It is unfortunate that they chose to run when they had relatively minor infractions but the fact remains that they made that decision for themselves. Imagine the outrage had the SUV rear ended a family of four at 100 MPH. And no jumper the police did not kill them, the driver killed themselves.

What if the police had hit an uninvolved motorist in the process of chasing this driver? Is it okay to kill an innocent bystander in the name of 'justice?' Keep in mind, the only crime the offending driver committed was DWLS, which is a misdemeanor in Michigan.

So the police should never chase somebody who runs if they didn't commit a serious crime?

jumpr did not state that policemen should not pursue people that commit misdemeanors - just that it's a poor choice when considering the risk vs reward (probably not les mots juste) of the situation.

Also, when you debate something, ignoring a question doesn't make it go away.

 

[esun]

It wasn't the smartest thing to do. The PIT maneuver is known to be very dangerous at high speeds, and it generally recommended at something like 25-30MPH, not whatever the hell that girl was doing. Even so, I think the action definitely could be defended as the corrent action to take, although it probably was not the best course of action.

 

[FleshLight]

Well if we're venturing into the hypothetical realm, what if the cops called off the chase and she lost control and plowed into a van full of preschoolers and rammed them into a tree? We just don't know...

 

Originally posted by: FleshLight
Well if we're venturing into the hypothetical realm, what if the cops called off the chase and she lost control and plowed into a van full of preschoolers and rammed them into a tree? We just don't know...

What actually DID happen is that the Georgia State Patrol performed an extremely dangerous PIT maneuver causing a driver guilty of ONLY a misdemeanor to lose control and plow into a tree, killing her and her innocent passenger. But it's okay, because she was a criminal! :roll:

 

[TitanDiddly]

Yes. The driver made her choice when she decided to run. Unfortunately, she also decided for the passenger.

 

[Schadenfroh]

They shoulda done like This guy.

 

[acemcmac]

the cop who decided to do that should be removed from highway patrol and given some time without pension to think about how inapropriate that decision was. There were a hundred other things they could have done than made a top heavy suv turn sideways at 90mph and hoped for the best. What a moron!

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: FleshLight
Well if we're venturing into the hypothetical realm, what if the cops called off the chase and she lost control and plowed into a van full of preschoolers and rammed them into a tree? We just don't know...

What actually DID happen is that the Georgia State Patrol performed an extremely dangerous PIT maneuver causing a driver guilty of ONLY a misdemeanor to lose control and plow into a tree, killing her and her innocent passenger. But it's okay, because she was a criminal! :roll:

how are you so sure the passenger was innocent? for all you know, he/she could have been all for running from the police. and yes, it is okay, because the driver made the choice to run from the police, she should have expected such actions to be taken against her.

 

Originally posted by: acemcmac
the cop who decided to do that should be removed from highway patrol and given some time without pension to think about how inapropriate that decision was. There were a hundred other things they could have done than made a top heavy suv turn sideways at 90mph and hoped for the best. What a moron!

:thumbup; Stop sticks would have done the same thing in a much safer way.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: FleshLight
Well if we're venturing into the hypothetical realm, what if the cops called off the chase and she lost control and plowed into a van full of preschoolers and rammed them into a tree? We just don't know...

What actually DID happen is that the Georgia State Patrol performed an extremely dangerous PIT maneuver causing a driver guilty of ONLY a misdemeanor to lose control and plow into a tree, killing her and her innocent passenger. But it's okay, because she was a criminal! :roll:

Agreed.People get so worked up about the word criminal,everyone on this board breaks on average 14 laws a day.It is a travesty that this happened. The police should aslo consider this from a liability issue, the innocent womans family is gonna sue ( and I hope win).They should have followed her from a helicopter, she was no danger to others, before the chase began.