Did Obama falsify his selective service registration?

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

How is he foaming at the mouth? Hyperbole much?

You must have missed his other threads.

no, jbourne77 is part of the winnar111 moron club.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: frostedflakesBut until it's reported on by a more mainstream news source, accusations like this are a dime a dozen and have no credibility in my book.

THIS

:thumbsup:

Just goes to show that some people will believe whatever they want to believe and nothing will change that.

 

[NeoV]

please go away

 

[Engineer]

Related to this.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: jonks
So this is going to be the next 4 (8) years in a nutshell, eh? Amusing time the right is going to have of it.

The date thing is the most telling....funny how Obama's signature appears on the date after the postage stamp! How could Obama have signed the document on the 30th when it was mailed on the 29th?

When someone sends you a post dated check winnar, do you wonder if they own a time machine? Or maybe they wrote the date wrong? Or they filled it out and meant to mail it the next day but then decided to mail it early? This? This is the "most telling" thing you've got? Please never sit on a jury.


She's a racist and all around hate monger and I really wouldn't shed a tear if she accidentally fell headfirst onto a pitchfork.

There are reasons to postdate a check. Why would Obama postdate his selective service form?

That's not the only problem with the document. How about the fact that a USPO stamp was used rather than the customary USPS?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: jonks
So this is going to be the next 4 (8) years in a nutshell, eh? Amusing time the right is going to have of it.

The date thing is the most telling....funny how Obama's signature appears on the date after the postage stamp! How could Obama have signed the document on the 30th when it was mailed on the 29th?

When someone sends you a post dated check winnar, do you wonder if they own a time machine? Or maybe they wrote the date wrong? Or they filled it out and meant to mail it the next day but then decided to mail it early? This? This is the "most telling" thing you've got? Please never sit on a jury.


She's a racist and all around hate monger and I really wouldn't shed a tear if she accidentally fell headfirst onto a pitchfork.

There are reasons to postdate a check. Why would Obama postdate his selective service form?

Because he hates America and will turn it into a socialist hellhole. What do I win?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

How is he foaming at the mouth? Hyperbole much?

You must have missed his other threads.

Nope. Given the number that's impossible. :laugh:

Hey winnnnaaarrrr11111... Obama will still be president on 1/20/09 whether you spam post crap about him or not. Give it up.

Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111
Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

Registration for selective service is the law.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111
Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

Registration for selective service is the law.

Is that the only source you have for this item?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111
Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

Registration for selective service is the law.

Is that the only source you have for this item?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/...ecurity/a/draftreg.htm

Penalties for Failure to Register for the Draft

Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison. In addition, men who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26, even if not prosecuted, will become ineligible for:

* Student Financial Aid - including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

* U.S. Citizenship - if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

* Federal Job Training - The Job Training Partnership Act (JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service.

* Federal Jobs - men born after December 31, 1959 must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111
Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

Registration for selective service is the law.

Uh, huh. If this is the best you can do I suggest you take up another cause.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111
Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

Registration for selective service is the law.

Is that the only source you have for this item?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/...ecurity/a/draftreg.htm

Penalties for Failure to Register for the Draft

Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison. In addition, men who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26, even if not prosecuted, will become ineligible for:

* Student Financial Aid - including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

* U.S. Citizenship - if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

* Federal Job Training - The Job Training Partnership Act (JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service.

* Federal Jobs - men born after December 31, 1959 must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service.

:roll:I'm talking abut your OP

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111
Perhaps. But if he did fail to register for Selective Service appropriately and in a timely fashion, it would be nice to find out.

Interesting qualification for a commander in chief.

Again, who the fuck cares? Last I checked there was no draft in 1980. Of course if there was one maybe Obama could just pull a GWB and get into the National Guard so he could avoid combat.

Registration for selective service is the law.

Is that the only source you have for this item?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/...ecurity/a/draftreg.htm

Penalties for Failure to Register for the Draft

Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison. In addition, men who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26, even if not prosecuted, will become ineligible for:

* Student Financial Aid - including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

* U.S. Citizenship - if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

* Federal Job Training - The Job Training Partnership Act (JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service.

* Federal Jobs - men born after December 31, 1959 must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service.

I believe he's talking about the source of this stupid thread. Everyone > 18 knows the law.

Edit: RD beat me! 😛

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: winnar111
By law, all males born in 1961 were to register for selective service in 1980. Hopefully someone picks up this investigation.

Well that leaves you out Nancy. Hopefully someone buys you some new panties. Your current pair have been in a bunch since a couple of Tuesday's ago. :roll:

 

[ayabe]

It's threads like this that have pushed me into semi-P&N retirement.

Until someone starts paying me enormous amounts of money to debunk this crap, it just isn't worth it.

 

[ohnoes]

A couple things I found:

1) "Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form"

INCORRECT. There is no SSS form approval for Feb 1990 either. However, there is an accepted change for both April 1990, and April 1980. Therefore, the conclusion that the Feb 80 withdrawal proves that the form is versioned on Feb 1990 is INCORRECT. If you were to believe that the 4/90 approval validates a Feb 90 version, then the 4/80 approval also validates a Feb 80 dating.

2) "Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002,".

INCORRECT. SSS registration forms dating back to 1980 are ALL labeled with an approval control of 3240-0002. (do a search at the reginfo site for 3240-0002). This most likely means that the scanning was poor, and didnt' capture enough info, but at the very least proves that 19 has NO significance whatsoever; or else the latest form would have us in the year 3208, and stuck in that year for the past 20 yrs.

3) "Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue."

UNCLEAR. There is no standardized Document Locator Number format as implied. The IRS DLN has a different format, and the calendar digits appear within the number, not as the lead.


Seeing as how these are just 3 things I found when researching & googling, I am highly doubtful of the 'federal agent' that did this research.

And also to the OP, next time you post sh*t like this, maybe you should look into it further instead of being a dumbass.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
cliffs?

Investigate Obama's Documents Part 2 of Infinity! Gotsta know!!!!!

 

[IGBT]

..just the tip of the iceburg. he and his retrograde cabinet will spend all their time stepping in the chite and blaming others for their inept behavior. will be greatly entertaining.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: ohnoes
A couple things I found:

1) "Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form"

INCORRECT. There is no SSS form approval for Feb 1990 either. However, there is an accepted change for both April 1990, and April 1980. Therefore, the conclusion that the Feb 80 withdrawal proves that the form is versioned on Feb 1990 is INCORRECT. If you were to believe that the 4/90 approval validates a Feb 90 version, then the 4/80 approval also validates a Feb 80 dating.

2) "Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002,".

INCORRECT. SSS registration forms dating back to 1980 are ALL labeled with an approval control of 3240-0002. (do a search at the reginfo site for 3240-0002). This most likely means that the scanning was poor, and didnt' capture enough info, but at the very least proves that 19 has NO significance whatsoever; or else the latest form would have us in the year 3208, and stuck in that year for the past 20 yrs.

3) "Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue."

UNCLEAR. There is no standardized Document Locator Number format as implied. The IRS DLN has a different format, and the calendar digits appear within the number, not as the lead.


Seeing as how these are just 3 things I found when researching & googling, I am highly doubtful of the 'federal agent' that did this research.

And also to the OP, next time you post sh*t like this, maybe you should look into it further instead of being a dumbass.

Owned.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: winnar111

* Student Financial Aid - including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

Nice way to kill your own thread.

Student loans grant ergo selective service registered for!

NEXT!!!

 

[DealMonkey]

Did Obama kill a puppy? Did he show no remorse? Full report at 11?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: ohnoes
A couple things I found:

1) "Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form"

INCORRECT. There is no SSS form approval for Feb 1990 either. However, there is an accepted change for both April 1990, and April 1980. Therefore, the conclusion that the Feb 80 withdrawal proves that the form is versioned on Feb 1990 is INCORRECT. If you were to believe that the 4/90 approval validates a Feb 90 version, then the 4/80 approval also validates a Feb 80 dating.

2) "Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002,".

INCORRECT. SSS registration forms dating back to 1980 are ALL labeled with an approval control of 3240-0002. (do a search at the reginfo site for 3240-0002). This most likely means that the scanning was poor, and didnt' capture enough info, but at the very least proves that 19 has NO significance whatsoever; or else the latest form would have us in the year 3208, and stuck in that year for the past 20 yrs.

3) "Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue."

UNCLEAR. There is no standardized Document Locator Number format as implied. The IRS DLN has a different format, and the calendar digits appear within the number, not as the lead.


Seeing as how these are just 3 things I found when researching & googling, I am highly doubtful of the 'federal agent' that did this research.

And also to the OP, next time you post sh*t like this, maybe you should look into it further instead of being a dumbass.

Owned.

So completely owned.

 

[Lemon law]

Oh my God, yet another Obama is a fake conspiracy thread backed by little but rumor and innuendo. And when we are dealing with rumor and innuendo, its useless to post it on P&N until the rumor and innuendo
reach some sort of factual level. The fact that there are no facts to debunk, somewhat guarantees any such P&N thread will quickly degenerate into mud slinging hyperspastic name calling and nothing more.

But, our OP, winnar111 does have a right to feel upset, if in fact, a fraud has been perpetrated on the people of the USA. And winnar111 has a perfect right and responsibility to report this to the proper authorities.
And when and if the proper authorities refuse to give winnar111 the time of day, then winnar111 has two options. (1) Suffer in silence, I think a lot of righty tighty nut jobs will be in the same boat, they enjoy being upset, they have at least four years of suffering ahead of them, and why should I deny them their right to suffer? (2) Or winnar111, ONLY AFTER, going to the proper authorities, can then attempt to show why the PROPER AUTHORITIES acted improperly, and make that case for that on P&N.

Failing that, I recommend winnar111&fellow nut cases just suffer in silence. And spare us your fantasy.

 

[ohnoes]

The joys of a slow work day... I thought everyone knew of the 'smell test,' but obviously not.

 

[venkman]

Jesus, it's going to be four years of this crap, isn't it?

Did Oboma pee sitting down?

Did Obama hire someone to walk his new dog?

Did Obama swear at a reporter?

Honestly, if this guy can make it through his term without starting a war or bankrupting the country then he would be a HUGE step up from his predecessor.