Did Obama falsify his selective service registration?

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blackangst1

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: ohnoes
A couple things I found:

1) "Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form"

INCORRECT. There is no SSS form approval for Feb 1990 either. However, there is an accepted change for both April 1990, and April 1980. Therefore, the conclusion that the Feb 80 withdrawal proves that the form is versioned on Feb 1990 is INCORRECT. If you were to believe that the 4/90 approval validates a Feb 90 version, then the 4/80 approval also validates a Feb 80 dating.

2) "Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002,".

INCORRECT. SSS registration forms dating back to 1980 are ALL labeled with an approval control of 3240-0002. (do a search at the reginfo site for 3240-0002). This most likely means that the scanning was poor, and didnt' capture enough info, but at the very least proves that 19 has NO significance whatsoever; or else the latest form would have us in the year 3208, and stuck in that year for the past 20 yrs.

3) "Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue."

UNCLEAR. There is no standardized Document Locator Number format as implied. The IRS DLN has a different format, and the calendar digits appear within the number, not as the lead.


Seeing as how these are just 3 things I found when researching & googling, I am highly doubtful of the 'federal agent' that did this research.

And also to the OP, next time you post sh*t like this, maybe you should look into it further instead of being a dumbass.

Owned.

So completely owned.

Thx ohnoes. I retract my earlier comments :)
 

ohnoes

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Oct 11, 2007
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wow, it really is a SLOW work day. And yes, further ownage. This is just so much fun now...

4) "* Postal Stamp is Incorrect, Discontinued in 1970. Then, there is the question as to whether the Postal Stamp is real. The "postmark" stamp--labeled "E"--is hard to read, but it is clear that at the bottom is "USPO" which stands typically for United States Post Office. However, current "postmark" validator, registry, or round dater stamps (item 570 per the Postal Operations Manual) shows "USPS" for United States Postal Service. The change from Post Office to Postal Service occurred on August 12, 1970, when President Nixon signed into law the most comprehensive postal legislation since the founding of the Republic--Public Law 91-375. The new Postal Service officially began operations on July 1, 1971. "

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

Notice the document date.
Notice the example Stamp.

lol @ OP

Notice the file name.

 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: ohnoes
A couple things I found:

1) "Obama's Selective Service Registration Form is Apparently 1990 Form Altered to Appear Like 1980 Form"

INCORRECT. There is no SSS form approval for Feb 1990 either. However, there is an accepted change for both April 1990, and April 1980. Therefore, the conclusion that the Feb 80 withdrawal proves that the form is versioned on Feb 1990 is INCORRECT. If you were to believe that the 4/90 approval validates a Feb 90 version, then the 4/80 approval also validates a Feb 80 dating.

2) "Obama SSS form 1 was approved by OMB with an approval number of 19??0002,".

INCORRECT. SSS registration forms dating back to 1980 are ALL labeled with an approval control of 3240-0002. (do a search at the reginfo site for 3240-0002). This most likely means that the scanning was poor, and didnt' capture enough info, but at the very least proves that 19 has NO significance whatsoever; or else the latest form would have us in the year 3208, and stuck in that year for the past 20 yrs.

3) "Having worked for the Federal Government for several decades, I know that the standardization of DLNs have the first two digits of the DLN representing the year of issue."

UNCLEAR. There is no standardized Document Locator Number format as implied. The IRS DLN has a different format, and the calendar digits appear within the number, not as the lead.


Seeing as how these are just 3 things I found when researching & googling, I am highly doubtful of the 'federal agent' that did this research.

And also to the OP, next time you post sh*t like this, maybe you should look into it further instead of being a dumbass.

Owned.

So completely owned.
:thumbsup:
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Originally posted by: ohnoes
wow, it really is a SLOW work day. And yes, further ownage. This is just so much fun now...

4) "* Postal Stamp is Incorrect, Discontinued in 1970. Then, there is the question as to whether the Postal Stamp is real. The "postmark" stamp--labeled "E"--is hard to read, but it is clear that at the bottom is "USPO" which stands typically for United States Post Office. However, current "postmark" validator, registry, or round dater stamps (item 570 per the Postal Operations Manual) shows "USPS" for United States Postal Service. The change from Post Office to Postal Service occurred on August 12, 1970, when President Nixon signed into law the most comprehensive postal legislation since the founding of the Republic--Public Law 91-375. The new Postal Service officially began operations on July 1, 1971. "

WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

Notice the date. Notice the example Stamp.

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Notice the file name.

Now you're just being mean! :laugh:
 

ohnoes

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Oct 11, 2007
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Really though.. who the fuck did this original 'research'? I mean for fucks sake, this is just ridiculous.
 

ohnoes

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Oct 11, 2007
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I am going to bookmark this thread, and post it in every single winnar thread from now on.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: ohnoes
Really though.. who the fuck did this original 'research'? I mean for fucks sake, this is just ridiculous.
A paritsan hack. Stick around P&N and you'll see a few, we use them as punching bags for our entertainment.

 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Next up: Obama's Third Grade Report Card--Did he forge his Grandmother's signature to avoid her seeing the D??? Can we trust someone so low as to stoop to forging their Grandmother's signature??? No!!!!
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: ayabe
It's threads like this that have pushed me into semi-P&N retirement.

Until someone starts paying me enormous amounts of money to debunk this crap, it just isn't worth it.

Don't retire. There is something you can do.

You can piss off and make the Republicans as uncomfortable as humanly possible that they can't stand to remain here any longer and they leave the country.

That is for the best of this country so that it can start to heal from their damage.
 

ohnoes

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Originally posted by: ayabe
It's threads like this that have pushed me into semi-P&N retirement.

Until someone starts paying me enormous amounts of money to debunk this crap, it just isn't worth it.

But it makes for very fun slow-workdays.
 

ohnoes

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Oct 11, 2007
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Really though, this source worked in gov't for a number of years, and had security clearance, and this is the type of 'research' that he does??? Someone should go review all the work that he did while working, and make sure nothing else is as badly flawed as this.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ayabe
It's threads like this that have pushed me into semi-P&N retirement.

Until someone starts paying me enormous amounts of money to debunk this crap, it just isn't worth it.

Don't retire. There is something you can do.

You can piss off and make the Republicans as uncomfortable as humanly possible that they can't stand to remain here any longer and they leave the country.

That is for the best of this country so that it can start to heal from their damage.
Ah, lovely, and speaking of partisan hacks! The king returns!

 

dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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All ya need to know it's a Lossar000 thread. I almost never reply to them anymore.

And like i said before, Ignore him and maybe he'll go away.
 

Fear No Evil

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If this was Bush, people would be demanding congressional hearings about it. Its a non-issue in my opinion but it is funny to see how things like military service which were so important when GWB was being elected seem to be tossed out the window for Obama.
 

ohnoes

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Oct 11, 2007
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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If this was Bush, people would be demanding congressional hearings about it. Its a non-issue in my opinion but it is funny to see how things like military service which were so important when GWB was being elected seem to be tossed out the window for Obama.

Read thread before you reply. kthx.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If this was Bush, people would be demanding congressional hearings about it. Its a non-issue in my opinion but it is funny to see how things like military service which were so important when GWB was being elected seem to be tossed out the window for Obama.

Read thread before you reply. kthx.

His was a Faith Based answer, no need for him to know the "facts" in the OP were ripped to shreds.
 

cyclohexane

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Feb 12, 2005
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Who the FUCK cares? I can say that 99.9999% of us only care if he can make changes to help the economy, the other 0.0001% is the dumbass that is winnar111.
 
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Obama could make every single person in the United States a multi-millionaire and Winnar111 would still say he was the worst human being who ever lived. Obama could cure AIDS, develop engines capable of exceeding lightspeed and build a time machine, and I still don't think Winnar111 would have any kind words to say about him. Basically, Winnar111 is a partisan douchebag whose head is so far up his own ass he gets to enjoy every meal twice.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ayabe
It's threads like this that have pushed me into semi-P&N retirement.

Until someone starts paying me enormous amounts of money to debunk this crap, it just isn't worth it.

Don't retire. There is something you can do.

You can piss off and make the Republicans as uncomfortable as humanly possible that they can't stand to remain here any longer and they leave the country.

That is for the best of this country so that it can start to heal from their damage.
Ah, lovely, and speaking of partisan hacks! The king returns!

Need your webcam address so I can see you bow to me.
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Obama could make every single person in the United States a multi-millionaire and Winnar111 would still say he was the worst human being who ever lived. Obama could cure AIDS, develop engines capable of exceeding lightspeed and build a time machine, and I still don't think Winnar111 would have any kind words to say about him. Basically, Winnar111 is a partisan douchebag whose head is so far up his own ass he gets to enjoy every meal twice.
:laugh:
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
Nov 4, 1999
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Originally posted by: ohnoes
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
If this was Bush, people would be demanding congressional hearings about it. Its a non-issue in my opinion but it is funny to see how things like military service which were so important when GWB was being elected seem to be tossed out the window for Obama.

Read thread before you reply. kthx.

Excellent ownage, dude - may I give you a terrorist fist jab?

:)

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