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Jhhnn

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Just that a subcommittee can start with the assumption of guilt, with the trial being more or less just a formality towards pronouncing that verdict. The Senate has no requirement for the sort of due process that we are used to for criminal courts, as an impeachment is not a criminal case.

Which is still extremely vague. After a bit of Googling, it seems to me that Claiborne & those removed from office since then had the opportunity to defend themselves & deserved their fate-


Kangaroo court not found.
 

SMOGZINN

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Which is still extremely vague. After a bit of Googling, it seems to me that Claiborne & those removed from office since then had the opportunity to defend themselves & deserved their fate-


Kangaroo court not found.

You seem to be right. I was under the impression that Hess and some of the other people that McCarthy went after were impeached, but it seems that they charged them with federal crimes and were convicted in a federal court and never actually impeached.
 

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Those harkening fake news here are doing damage to progress in this country. Invalidating everything by finding fault in something is counterproductive. What it was is incomplete reporting that troublingly suggests the possibility of bias. While the detail about friends reporting lack of memory on behalf of the individual in question and lack of desire to talk about it is important to weigh against the evidence that it happened, this does not make the pro evidence in any way fake. Clearly, there is no definitive proof on either side for this specific incident. This would not be newsworthy absent the litany of other accounts existing across a long time span with lingering doubts an appropriate process was undertaken to confirm him. Such a pattern is powerful evidence to consider.
 

Starbuck1975

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Those harkening fake news here are doing damage to progress in this country. Invalidating everything by finding fault in something is counterproductive. What it was is incomplete reporting that troublingly suggests the possibility of bias. While the detail about friends reporting lack of memory on behalf of the individual in question and lack of desire to talk about it is important to weigh against the evidence that it happened, this does not make the pro evidence in any way fake. Clearly, there is no definitive proof on either side for this specific incident. This would not be newsworthy absent the litany of other accounts existing across a long time span with lingering doubts an appropriate process was undertaken to confirm him. Such a pattern is powerful evidence to consider.
Except there is no litany of accounts. A few Democrats rushed to judgment over an op-ed published to help sell a book.
 

Starbuck1975

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Spoken like someone who has only heard the conservative spin side of the entire scandal.
WAPO, Yahoo News and the NY Times authors themselves frame it as exactly that. The Atlantic has a rather long article on the subject that, if anything, characterized the accusations as inconclusive.

Maybe you should get off Twitter and this thread.
 

dainthomas

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WAPO, Yahoo News and the NY Times authors themselves frame it as exactly that. The Atlantic has a rather long article on the subject that, if anything, characterized the accusations as inconclusive.

Maybe you should get off Twitter and this thread.

If this a giant liberal conspiracy, why did they choose not to go after Gorsuch?

Hint: maybe because he wasn't a handsy, entitled frat boy with a very apparent alcohol issue.
 

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To be clear, I was referring to a litany of accounts of sexual misconduct overall, not accounts of this specific incident.

To also be clear, the articles on this specific incident state the authors have 2 corroborating sources and that the FBI had already received information about this story during the confirmation. While there is plenty of reason to question the very limited information we have on the veracity of that corroboration, it is patently false to characterize it as a single source story made up recently.
 

Starbuck1975

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If this a giant liberal conspiracy, why did they choose not to go after Gorsuch?

Hint: maybe because he wasn't a handsy, entitled frat boy with a very apparent alcohol issue.
I wouldn’t call this a conspiracy at all, its too poorly coordinated and executed.
 

compuwiz1

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This whole penis thing is getting ridiculous and going flaccid fast...
This is the Dem's new level. They have no policy to run on, so smears are all they have. I don't think the American people are dumb enough to continue to fall for this shit, but we will see in 2020.
 

IronWing

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This whole penis thing is getting ridiculous and going flaccid fast...
This is the Dem's new level. They have no policy to run on, so smears are all they have. I don't think the American people are dumb enough to continue to fall for this shit, but we will see in 2020.
Ask your buddy Trump to release the 100k pages of documents covering Kavanaugh's time in the White House or shut the fuck up. Republicans pretending they want to talk about real issues is pathetic when they hide the truth of their conduct at every turn. Utter un-American filth, these Republicans.
 

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This whole penis thing is getting ridiculous and going flaccid fast...
This is the Dem's new level. They have no policy to run on, so smears are all they have. I don't think the American people are dumb enough to continue to fall for this shit, but we will see in 2020.

Thanks for the laugh. Now do you actually want to say something about the topic at hand? Or do you think that serial sexual misconduct and perjury are unimportant things to care about investigating for Supreme Court Justices?
 

Greenman

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Those harkening fake news here are doing damage to progress in this country. Invalidating everything by finding fault in something is counterproductive. What it was is incomplete reporting that troublingly suggests the possibility of bias. While the detail about friends reporting lack of memory on behalf of the individual in question and lack of desire to talk about it is important to weigh against the evidence that it happened, this does not make the pro evidence in any way fake. Clearly, there is no definitive proof on either side for this specific incident. This would not be newsworthy absent the litany of other accounts existing across a long time span with lingering doubts an appropriate process was undertaken to confirm him. Such a pattern is powerful evidence to consider.
The key fact in the story, actually the only fact, was omitted. Is that clear enough? They had one fact to check, one person to contact, one lead to follow up, and somehow they missed that step. Right.
 

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The key fact in the story, actually the only fact, was omitted. Is that clear enough? They had one fact to check, one person to contact, one lead to follow up, and somehow they missed that step. Right.

CNN did a bad job in their reporting.

Are you truly narrowing down your entire fucks given about Kavanaugh to a secondhand account that someone who was drunk doesn't remember an incident witnessed by 3 other people? And not caring about any other accusation, the inadequacy of the investigation due to restraints placed by Senate Republicans, or possible perjury during his commitment hearing?

Or does CNN making a fuckup here give Kavanaugh a free pass?
 
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If this a giant liberal conspiracy, why did they choose not to go after Gorsuch?

Hint: maybe because he wasn't a handsy, entitled frat boy with a very apparent alcohol issue.

I would love for a single person who says this was a political hit job to answer this question.
 
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Lanyap

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lol.


NYT finally added in this slightly relevant fact:

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I'm convinced that the 2020 election belongs to the party which least insists on making a complete ass of itself. Democrats could be completely silent and let Trump be himself, and they'd coast to victory. But they just can't help themselves.



Sounds like NYT got caught with their pants down on this one. At least the authors tried to make it right.
 

Lanyap

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This is false. There are at least seven other people who recall hearing of the incident at the time it happened.

So not only do we have corroboration, we have large amounts of it!



So we have at least seven other people who recall hearing about this incident where friends of a drunk Brett “The Penis” Kavanaugh grabbed his penis and pushed it into the hands of a woman at a college frat party. So who’s responsible here, Kav or his friends?
 

dainthomas

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The key fact in the story, actually the only fact, was omitted. Is that clear enough? They had one fact to check, one person to contact, one lead to follow up, and somehow they missed that step. Right.

I'm curious why Trump's 'extreme vetting' didn't catch this even potential issue? "Hey, looks like the guy might drink a little too much and liked the ladies a little too much in high school/college." All they had to do was have an intern track down a copy of his yearbook.

Could they not have just picked the next federalist society pod person on the list? There must be hundreds.