Did anyone know the Bible advocated for an abortion if a woman cheats on her husband and becomes pregnant?

[igor_kavinski]

The question that bothers me is,

How many actual "future" scientists have been lost because they weren't allowed to come out of the womb?

Once we became sufficiently civilized, the next step should have been figuring out how to prevent unwanted babies so no one would have to face the dilemma of whether or not to abort a fetus. Now, if despite ALL precautions and measures, conception still happens then we should consider it divine and the state should pay for the child's upbringing, in case the parent(s) abandon the baby.

The problem with that is, the world still isn't 100% civilized (may not be for maybe another 500 years?) so until then, humanity will keep murdering defenseless fetuses.

(Please don't kill me)

 

[ch33zw1z]

The question that bothers me is,

How many actual "future" scientists have been lost because they weren't allowed to come out of the womb?

Once we became sufficiently civilized, the next step should have been figuring out how to prevent unwanted babies so no one would have to face the dilemma of whether or not to abort a fetus. Now, if despite ALL precautions and measures, conception still happens then we should consider it divine and the state should pay for the child's upbringing, in case the parent(s) abandon the baby.

The problem with that is, the world still isn't 100% civilized (may not be for maybe another 500 years?) so until then, humanity will keep murdering defenseless fetuses.

(Please don't kill me)

That was the goal after roe v wade, and we steadily decreased unwanted pregnancies year over year with few exceptions. These pesky facts dont matter to those who to control women

 

[sandorski]

The question that bothers me is,

How many actual "future" scientists have been lost because they weren't allowed to come out of the womb?

Once we became sufficiently civilized, the next step should have been figuring out how to prevent unwanted babies so no one would have to face the dilemma of whether or not to abort a fetus. Now, if despite ALL precautions and measures, conception still happens then we should consider it divine and the state should pay for the child's upbringing, in case the parent(s) abandon the baby.

The problem with that is, the world still isn't 100% civilized (may not be for maybe another 500 years?) so until then, humanity will keep murdering defenseless fetuses.

(Please don't kill me)

More Scientists are lost due to poor Education.

 

[WelshBloke]

That's cheating. I never talked about a pill

Just dust and holy water.

I have a pill crusher so making dust is no problem and I can make the holy water! Remember I'm still wearing my funny hat!

 

[nakedfrog]

The question that bothers me is,

How many actual "future" scientists have been lost because they weren't allowed to come out of the womb?

Once we became sufficiently civilized, the next step should have been figuring out how to prevent unwanted babies so no one would have to face the dilemma of whether or not to abort a fetus. Now, if despite ALL precautions and measures, conception still happens then we should consider it divine and the state should pay for the child's upbringing, in case the parent(s) abandon the baby.

The problem with that is, the world still isn't 100% civilized (may not be for maybe another 500 years?) so until then, humanity will keep murdering defenseless fetuses.

(Please don't kill me)

How 'bout you stay the fuck out of what other people do with their uterus instead of projecting your magical thinking onto them?

 

[nickqt]

How 'bout you stay the fuck out of what other people do with their uterus instead of projecting your magical thinking onto them?

This guy would be absolutely aghast at the number of fetuses attacked by the mother's immune system before a woman is even aware she is pregnant, because fetuses are essentially parasites.

Maybe we should start inoculating all women at puberty with immunoblockers to prevent all of those future fetus murders.

 

[igor_kavinski]

How 'bout you stay the fuck out of what other people do with their uterus instead of projecting your magical thinking onto them?

I don't care about the uterus. People can do with theirs as they like. It's just that clump of cells growing inside it I'm worried about that could make or break the future of humanity.

Two bad examples (coz I can't think of good ones at the moment):

Both the dads of Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison wanted nothing to do with their progeny. Had their moms taken the easy way out and aborted them, we would be living in a different world entirely, at least technologically.

(OK, well, I guess we COULD have done just fine without Ellison )

 

[igor_kavinski]

Maybe we should start inoculating all women at puberty with immunoblockers to prevent all of those future fetus murders.

No. That would be messing with Nature.

 

[HomerJS]

I don't care about the uterus. People can do with theirs as they like. It's just that clump of cells growing inside it I'm worried about that could make or break the future of humanity.

Two bad examples (coz I can't think of good ones at the moment):

Both the dads of Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison wanted nothing to do with their progeny. Had their moms taken the easy way out and aborted them, we would be living in a different world entirely, at least technologically.

(OK, well, I guess we COULD have done just fine without Ellison )

If the parents of Dylan Roof had aborted 10 black people would be alive today.

You can look it up

 

[nickqt]

No. That would be messing with Nature.

So in your reality, human beings and human brains are not nature. Got it.

 

[nakedfrog]

I don't care about the uterus. People can do with theirs as they like. It's just that clump of cells growing inside it I'm worried about that could make or break the future of humanity.

Two bad examples (coz I can't think of good ones at the moment):

Both the dads of Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison wanted nothing to do with their progeny. Had their moms taken the easy way out and aborted them, we would be living in a different world entirely, at least technologically.

(OK, well, I guess we COULD have done just fine without Ellison )

Oh?

 

[igor_kavinski]

If the parents of Dylan Roof had aborted 10 black people would be alive today.

Ah. Aries. They are mental. Well, some of them at least.

 

[HomerJS]

Ah. Aries. They are mental. Well, some of them at least.

Care to clarify?

 

[igor_kavinski]

Care to clarify?

I have mostly had bad experiences with Aries individuals.

They are arrogant, headstrong, think they are the smartest people on Earth, very combative, get easily jealous etc.

In my experience, their good qualities are usually overshadowed by their bad ones. Or maybe it's just me they hate (me being Libra, so Aries is my hell sign).

 

[HomerJS]

I have mostly had bad experiences with Aries individuals.

They are arrogant, headstrong, think they are the smartest people on Earth, very combative, get easily jealous etc.

In my experience, their good qualities are usually overshadowed by their bad ones. Or maybe it's just me they hate (me being Libra, so Aries is my hell sign).

None of that changes what I stated using your logic

 

[nickqt]

None of that changes what I stated using your logic

You're now trying to have a conversation with someone who is citing astrology. You've already lost.

 

[dank69]

The question that bothers me is,

How many actual "future" scientists have been lost because they weren't allowed to come out of the womb?

Once we became sufficiently civilized, the next step should have been figuring out how to prevent unwanted babies so no one would have to face the dilemma of whether or not to abort a fetus. Now, if despite ALL precautions and measures, conception still happens then we should consider it divine and the state should pay for the child's upbringing, in case the parent(s) abandon the baby.

The problem with that is, the world still isn't 100% civilized (may not be for maybe another 500 years?) so until then, humanity will keep murdering defenseless fetuses.

(Please don't kill me)

How many actual future serial killers were aborted? Rapists? Con artists? Playing that game of what if is beyond stupid. If Jobs or Elison were aborted someone else would have figured out whatever they figured out.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If Jobs or Elison were aborted someone else would have figured out whatever they figured out.

Maybe. Maybe not.

OK, what about this as a dilemma?

Is the threat of a serial killer who ends up killing maybe max 1000 people worth having abortion available as an option for everyone and then allowing some scared would-be mom ending the future job opportunities and prosperity of thousands of individuals that was to be made possible by the singular vision of the unlucky soul that then never gets a chance?

I'm not in favor of or against abortion. I'm just asking the difficult questions. I would hate to be the one who has to answer these. These are super tough questions and I really don't want to take any side. Whatever happens, happens. It's kind of a damned if you will, damned if you won't situation.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Maybe. Maybe not.

OK, what about this as a dilemma?

Is the threat of a serial killer who ends up killing maybe max 1000 people worth having abortion available as an option for everyone and then allowing some scared would-be mom ending the future job opportunities and prosperity of thousands of individuals that was to be made possible by the singular vision of the unlucky soul that then never gets a chance?

I'm not in favor of or against abortion. I'm just asking the difficult questions. I would hate to be the one who has to answer these. These are super tough questions and I really don't want to take any side. Whatever happens, happens. It's kind of a damned if you will, damned if you won't situation.

Youre not countering his point, we can spin up endless hypotheticals, theyre all still what ifs and pointless to spend energy, because its just fear. Fear is used to control and justify stripping rights from others, which is the point in this case.

 

[dank69]

Maybe. Maybe not.

OK, what about this as a dilemma?

Is the threat of a serial killer who ends up killing maybe max 1000 people worth having abortion available as an option for everyone and then allowing some scared would-be mom ending the future job opportunities and prosperity of thousands of individuals that was to be made possible by the singular vision of the unlucky soul that then never gets a chance?

I'm not in favor of or against abortion. I'm just asking the difficult questions. I would hate to be the one who has to answer these. These are super tough questions and I really don't want to take any side. Whatever happens, happens. It's kind of a damned if you will, damned if you won't situation.

I see you brought souls into the discussion. So what's the theory? There is a line of souls waiting to be born and they enter each fertilized egg one by one and when they're aborted that's it? That was their one chance to be human? A God that set up that system makes sense to you when many many fertilized eggs spontaneously miscarry without any human intervention?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Red state donating Trump-endorsed Bibles to classrooms to ‘make America pray again’

Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters is partnering with Country singer Lee Greenwood to donate Trump-endorsed “God Bless the USA" Bibles to classrooms across the state.

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Former President Donald Trump selling 'God Bless the USA' bibles | Fox News Video

In a video shared on his social media platform, Truth Social, the former president said 'Let's Make America Pray Again." (Credit: Truth Social/ @realDonaldTrump)

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Grifters gonna grift.

Oh but wait, youre grifting the CHINO’s

Matthew 6:5 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

CHINO’s actually worship this guy

Mammon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[igor_kavinski]

There is a line of souls waiting to be born and they enter each fertilized egg one by one and when they're aborted that's it? That was their one chance to be human?

My theory from my understanding is, if a soul is meant to come into a body, it will eventually but messing with the natural order of things may mess up things for everyone else.

Here's an example: what is the difference between unwedded and wedded sexual intercourse? The former does not acknowledge the rules set forth by God and the latter does. In essence, if you do the same thing without following the ritual of marriage, a few things are possible (though not always certain because I don't know how exactly God does things):

1) The union may be doomed and the couple may never have true blessings in their life (food, wealth, good luck etc.)
2) The child may not get the protection of angels
3) The child may be more receptive to the whisperings of Satan
4) The child could be plain bad luck for his/her community

My understanding is that as long as humans acknowledge God and His rules and don't try to pretend that He does not exist or meddle in His natural order of things, they should be fine.

HOWEVER, this does not mean that God will not test them in various ways. So even the most faithful community may still face struggles and problems that they have to patiently endure and the most unfaithful community may be rolling around in riches and prosperity.

Yes, it's all very complicated. Don't ask me why. Unfortunately, I'm not good enough to receive communications from Him or His angels.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Oof, that post is just a mess. Igor, youre walking into prosperity gospel and displaying the same thought process as mammon worshippers.

The Christian god in no way assures blessing on this earth no matter what. A christians goal is blessings in heaven.

 

[dank69]

My theory from my understanding is, if a soul is meant to come into a body, it will eventually but messing with the natural order of things may mess up things for everyone else.

Here's an example: what is the difference between unwedded and wedded sexual intercourse? The former does not acknowledge the rules set forth by God and the latter does. In essence, if you do the same thing without following the ritual of marriage, a few things are possible (though not always certain because I don't know how exactly God does things):

1) The union may be doomed and the couple may never have true blessings in their life (food, wealth, good luck etc.)
2) The child may not get the protection of angels
3) The child may be more receptive to the whisperings of Satan
4) The child could be plain bad luck for his/her community

My understanding is that as long as humans acknowledge God and His rules and don't try to pretend that He does not exist or meddle in His natural order of things, they should be fine.

HOWEVER, this does not mean that God will not test them in various ways. So even the most faithful community may still face struggles and problems that they have to patiently endure and the most unfaithful community may be rolling around in riches and prosperity.

Yes, it's all very complicated. Don't ask me why. Unfortunately, I'm not good enough to receive communications from Him or His angels.

Okay so having children in wedlock ensures those 4 things don't happen, but doesn't actually ensure they don't happen. I'd call that pretty useless. Saying God may decide to test people essentially makes your belief non-falsifiable. There is no point discussing things further, except to say some people might say a person who believes children born out of wedlock are inferior is a raging lunatic. Certifiable stuff there.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The Christian god in no way assures blessing on this earth no matter what.

Can't agree with that. With ample amount of gratitude, blessings are possible in this life too. But as I said, there are too many factors involved. Heck, someone could get cursed for something their ancestor did thousands of years ago. One can only pray and be patient for their prayer to be answered or die trying. I think that is the Christian way.