Did anyone know the Bible advocated for an abortion if a woman cheats on her husband and becomes pregnant?

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HomerJS

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If the Dems could only field a candidate like that...although he's actually Canadian, so he's not eligible.
Remember when Obama ran righties castigated him for being smart. An elitist

This is why I love the show. How things should be. I guess my left wing fantasy
 
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The Christian God is supposed to be perfect and unchanging. The old testament god is the same as the new testament god, changing his mind doesn't make sense. Asking your pastor will likely end up with some handwaiving like this

See that's a perfectly acceptable answer if the bible was made up by men and written by men with the morals and knowledge of their time. That answer is nonsense when talking about the all knowing, all loving, all powerful creator of the universe who is supposed to be perfect.
I think the new testament only exists because they realized the fire and brimstone version of god wasnt getting many followers. They be like "we need to make this guy a lot nicer to attract followers. Him wanting to murder everyone under the sun isnt the best sales pitch".
 
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mikeymikec

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I'm guessing that as that's an Old Testament thing, it's also part of Jewish tradition? The Old Testament God really liked his peculiar and arbitrary rules.

Or the more likely explanation is that the author had a situation that this (breed within the family) outcome personally suited them, so why not add it to the book of "don't ask questions, just do as you're told".
 
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Or the more likely explanation is that the author had a situation that this (breed within the family) outcome personally suited them, so why not add it to the book of "don't ask questions, just do as you're told".
He always fantasized about his brothers wife. Now that his brother is dead, he be like "how can i get some of that?". Oh wait. I am writing some bible verse. One moment. There, gods word.
 

MrSquished

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I say we go back in time and abort all the future MAGA movement leaders. That sounds like the right kind of holy war to me. Thanks Bible!
 

hal2kilo

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I think the new testament only exists because they realized the fire and brimstone version of god wasnt getting many followers. They be like "we need to make this guy a lot nicer to attract followers. Him wanting to murder everyone under the sun isnt the best sales pitch".
Fake you out, to sacrifice your children for a lesson. Neat stuff.
 
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Asked my evangelical mother about it and her reply was "it wasn't an abortion it was God deciding if the child should live"
Don't see what is wrong about that reply. She believes in God and no human is actually doing the abortion. The abortion is supposed to happen on its own after the ritual.
 

HomerJS

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Yes I knew this. Asked my evangelical mother about it and her reply was "it wasn't an abortion it was God deciding if the child should live" or some shit. Dance monkey dance.
What's the distinction in swallowing a liquid concoction to miscarry vs swallowing a pill to miscarry?
 

dank69

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What's the distinction in swallowing a liquid concoction to miscarry vs swallowing a pill to miscarry?
Apparently the idea that the "bitter liquid" doesn't always cause a miscarry means it's in God's hands, lol. However, it totally ignores the conclusion that God thinks babies carried by women who have cheated should be aborted. It literally proves not all babies are sacred if we accept the premise that the Bible is the Word of God.
 
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sandorski

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I think the new testament only exists because they realized the fire and brimstone version of god wasnt getting many followers. They be like "we need to make this guy a lot nicer to attract followers. Him wanting to murder everyone under the sun isnt the best sales pitch".
Fire/Brimstone doesn't really exist in the Old Testament.
Don't see what is wrong about that reply. She believes in God and no human is actually doing the abortion. The abortion is supposed to happen on its own after the ritual.
There were ways to induce abortion by consuming certain things. It wasn't just a ritual.
 

JD50

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It is allegory what is so hard to understand about that? I am glad you find comfort in preaching superiority. You sound a lot like the Bible thumpers who in my opinion are doing it wrong. Now back to making fun of the Bible thumpers please.

Allegory? It’s literal instructions on when it’s ok to abort your child and how to do it. There’s also literal instructions on how to treat your slaves lol
 
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Allegory? It’s literal instructions on when it’s ok to abort your child and how to do it. There’s also literal instructions on how to treat your slaves lol
We are back to where we began, it’s the Old Testament which is superseded by the New Testament. Catholics don’t follow the Old Testament exclusively, they follow New Testament first then the old.
This as presented would be more of a Jewish thing and for that matter we don’t know anything (at least in here) about the translation which can yield screwy results.
Why on earth do you want to fight over this? I am not insulting you, why do you choose to be passive/aggressive with me? I am not telling you to do anything, that is your choice.
 

pmv

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I think the new testament only exists because they realized the fire and brimstone version of god wasnt getting many followers. They be like "we need to make this guy a lot nicer to attract followers. Him wanting to murder everyone under the sun isnt the best sales pitch".

Or, in the interim, God went into therapy. Anger management classes, maybe?
 

WelshBloke

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Don't see what is wrong about that reply. She believes in God and no human is actually doing the abortion. The abortion is supposed to happen on its own after the ritual.
Sooooooo.....

If I say a lot of hocus pocus, wave my arms around, burn some sage and wear a funny hat before giving someone the morning after pill that's just a ritual and it's OK?
 

ch33zw1z

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Sooooooo.....

If I say a lot of hocus pocus, wave my arms around, burn some sage and wear a funny hat before giving someone the morning after pill that's just a ritual and it's OK?

God created man, man created the pill, God chooses if it works or not, sounds about right.
 

ch33zw1z

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That chain of thought will put blame on God every single time for every single thing!

May as well not have created humans then :D

As it should. God in the Christian belief system is regarded as omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. Hes all powerful, all knowing, and all present.

He takes credit for all of it, or this belief falls apart and he’s fallible, which basically amounts to the entire belief ecosystem falling apart.

If there is a God, like the Christian God, were basically a side project and he hasnt come to check on us since we violently murdered his “son”, which BTW he already knew would happen
 
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Muse

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I did not, I’ll follow up with my pastor he is good explaining stuff.
This is Old Testament stuff which basically is superseded by New Testament stuff.

Important point our ancient ancestors didn’t look at children how we look at children. To them a child was a small or smaller more useless and more irritating adult. They simply did not understand the concept of “childhood”. For our Biblical ancestors it wasn’t weird to leave an unwanted or extra baby outside because someone who wanted a baby could take the baby as their own.
Childhood is a modern invention.
 
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Muse

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So, if the Bible advocated for abortion in certain circumstances, what were the methods back then?

How were abortions achieved in ancient times?

Many of the methods employed in early cultures were non-surgical. Physical activities such as strenuous labor, climbing, paddling, weightlifting, or diving were a common technique. Others included the use of irritant leaves, fasting, bloodletting, pouring hot water onto the abdomen, and lying on a heated coconut shell.

History of abortion: