Did Anyone Catch Bernie Sanders on Joe Rogan?

[soundforbjt]

He also dropped 5 points in this week's polls iirc.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Can you name one leader on the national stage who you support?

It's gotta be someone who dresses only in black.

 

[ivwshane]

His signature policy issues, M4A, $15, student debt relief, are now table stakes for Democratic candidates. He has brought attention and momentum to issues like prison reform, and his huge grassroots campaign has facilitated progessive Democrats like AOC, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Talib. But go off.

Don't be fooled, the Democrats were pushing for universal health care for decades. They still are but the smart ones realized that the path to that is slow and incremental. Its why Bernie has zero achievements with regards to universal health care and Obama had the largest change in decades.

Raising the minimum wage has also been a staple of the left and has nothing to do with Bernie, well unless you think liberal cities were somehow influenced by Bernie prior to him running for president.

The same can be said for everything else you pointed out.

The difference between Bernie and other Democrats is the rhetoric he uses; its broken down so even the most uneducated person can understand it. Its good ol' fashioned feel good/angry electioneering. Trump does the same thing only he uses Mexicans and immigrants as his scapegoat instead of the 1%'ers. Unfortunately Bernie supporters, like trump supporters, who buy the hype, never bother asking, "where's the beef".

 

[ivwshane]

He also dropped 5 points in this week's polls iirc.

That's because Bernie, like beto, is all talk and quite frankly people are tired of being bull shitted and they want someone with real solutions and not just feel good speeches and hand ringing.

 

[brandonbull]

Filthy fucking Leftists set those fires to discredit the Donald, the Precious. Everybody knows that climate change is a Chinese hoax.

Good thing we only have 12 years left.

 

[dank69]

That's because Bernie, like beto, is all talk and quite frankly people are tired of being bull shitted and they want someone with real solutions and not just feel good speeches and hand ringing.

Yeah right. Good one. People are fucking robots.

 

[Paladin3]

We all (mostly) know what the problems are. I'm tired of hearing about them and "...something must be done!" Most politicians don't seem to have a reasonable, feasible plan to actually fix anything.

 

[Blackjack200]

More batshit crazy stuff from Sanders, unveiled over the weekend. Most comprehensive criminal justice reform package of any major candidate.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/

BeRnIe DoEsN't HaVe DeTaIlEd PoLiCy PrOpOsAlS!

 

[Blackjack200]

Don't be fooled, the Democrats were pushing for universal health care for decades. They still are but the smart ones realized that the path to that is slow and incremental. Its why Bernie has zero achievements with regards to universal health care and Obama had the largest change in decades.

Ahh yes, Obama's amazing achievement with the ACA.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/another-person-has-died-from-rationing-insulin.html

Nice job Obama. What an achievement.

Raising the minimum wage has also been a staple of the left and has nothing to do with Bernie, well unless you think liberal cities were somehow influenced by Bernie prior to him running for president.

The same can be said for everything else you pointed out.

Wait, you mean Sanders didn't invent socialism? I never said he introduced any of those issues, but he has done much more than any other Democrat to push them into the broader policy debate, and force the other candidates to either adopt them or take awkward, unpopular positions.

The difference between Bernie and other Democrats is the rhetoric he uses; its broken down so even the most uneducated person can understand it. Its good ol' fashioned feel good/angry electioneering. Trump does the same thing only he uses Mexicans and immigrants as his scapegoat instead of the 1%'ers. Unfortunately Bernie supporters, like trump supporters, who buy the hype, never bother asking, "where's the beef".

Sneering down your nose at Sanders supporters is unlikely to work any better this cycle than it did in 2016. Communicating your platform in plain language and with unambiguous moral authority is a good thing. You have to be an insufferable naval gazer or think-tank fellow to think otherwise.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Ahh yes, Obama's amazing achievement with the ACA.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/another-person-has-died-from-rationing-insulin.html

Nice job Obama. What an achievement.

...There’s no single force propelling insulin prices to newly dangerous heights, but the problem is exacerbated by the flaws of America’s heavily privatized health-care system...
...pharmaceutical companies and pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs) like CVS Health share the blame...
...Smith-Holt noted that Minnesota legislators had just failed to pass insulin legislation named for her son. Had the Alec Smith Emergency Insulin Act become law, patients could, according to a description in the MinnPost, fill insulin prescriptions regardless of their ability to pay. “Pharmacies could get reimbursed from a fund filled with some type of fee assessed to drug makers, similar to the proposals to tap opioid makers for the ill-effects of addiction,” MinnPost explained. The Duluth News Tribune reported on July 13 that legislators had failed to attach the act to an omnibus health and human-services bill. One Republican lawmaker told the News Tribune that the problem was a clerical error; at least one prominent activist, Quinn Nystrom, disagreed and attributed the failure to pharmaceutical lobbying...
...But a universal solution to the problem will take federal action, and that might not be forthcoming as long as Republicans control the Senate and the White House...

Keep it up, shitbird.

 

[Blackjack200]

Keep it up, shitbird.

"...There’s no single force propelling insulin prices to newly dangerous heights, but the problem is exacerbated by the flaws of America’s heavily privatized health-care system..."

Yeah, that's the privatized system left in place by Obama and on Sanders's chopping block.