diamond experts...need help verifying how good this is

[SSSnail]

Isn't that what the worthless diamond is for? Social gathering, showing off, enjoying it, etc.

If you got something eye-clean, and ended up with bigger carat and maximum cut (most important), what's the problem than same budget spent on smaller carat, worse cut, but better clarity?

I guess in the grand scheme of things, ultimately the girls just want something for their friends to oooh and ahhh over.

Most of the time, a higher clarity diamond will have the better cut, I have not really seen one that have great clarity that's cut like crap. They just command better attention from the cutter. I mean, would you spend your time perfecting something that's not very good to begin with?

 

[Eli]

I'm lucky, my fiancee wants a Moissanite ring, aka silicon carbide.

 

[HumblePie]

I'm lucky, my fiancee wants a Moissanite ring, aka silicon carbide.

Yep, can get some bigger bling for cheaper. Problem is resale if it ever comes to that. Also moisanite isn't all THAT cheap.

Personally I was hoping for Apollo diamonds to have still been around and finally in the personal jewelry making business. I was hoping they would finally unleash and setup debeers for a hard fall. Alas, it didn't come to pass. I was really looking forward to getting a 3ct, D, IF diamond for a few hundred bucks

 

[kranky]

Yeah, ”eye clean” counts for social gathering, but pretty much worthless in other settings.

I always wonder where else it would not be worthless. You're only going to get a fraction of the cost back on resale in any event, so what does it really matter?

 

[jagec]

Yep, can get some bigger bling for cheaper. Problem is resale if it ever comes to that. Also moisanite isn't all THAT cheap.

A 1 ct moissanite ring will be at most ~$1k, a 1 ct diamond ring will be ~$4k+. Even if you get $5 for the first ring and $3k for the second on the used market (unlikely), you still come out ahead.

 

[HumblePie]

A 1 ct moissanite ring will be at most ~$1k, a 1 ct diamond ring will be ~$4k+. Even if you get $5 for the first ring and $3k for the second on the used market (unlikely), you still come out ahead.

1ct for 1K and 4K? You are being ripped off my friend.

moissanite.com has 2+ cts for rings starting at 1K. Bluenile, USAA, and Exceldiamonds all have 1ct diamonds with h-j color range and SI1-2 clarity for 1.7K-2Kish range.

Moisannite is cheaper, but not that much cheaper. Still a flawless looking 2ct moissanite ring for 1kish range is nice bling to show off.

Still the problem is resale. A good price, such as one off those sites, for a decent ring is still going to command a good price years later. Also chances are the diamond is going to last many many years. Moisannite, not so much on the resale value being held. Not to mention that there is a chance of it having problems.

Personally speaking. Anything over 1ct is gaudy as hell. The size just looks TOO big. Not to mention it tends to catch on so many things as a ring. In a real gold setting, having your ring catch on something 1 too many times is a good way to stress the setting which might pop loose that stone you have in it. Heard the horror stories of it happening more than a few times.

Moisannite is nice and I almost went that route myself. Actually would have if my GF's family wasn't some traditional catholic hardcases from Spain. So I got a ring that looks like I spent $5k from a retail store but really only spent about $1600 or so. On top of that, if they do decide to check if it's real, it most certainly will pass the tests.

Again, my personal preference was to own an Apollo diamond. But it looks as if that is never meant to be.

 

[Wreckem]

Didn't they skyrocket due to the rise of middle class in China that wanting diamond?

Like 20-30% increase in last 3-5 years.

Diamond prices were steadily rising at a fairly low rate since 2006/2007ish. That has changed over the past couple years because of huge demand in India and China, more specifically last year the price of diamonds went up 25% just in the first quarter, with smaller increases in Q2 and Q3 before somewhat stabilizing in Q4. However, diamond prices have continued to creep up in 2012

Today, a diamond that is comparable(H&A 000, G SI-1) to what I bought my wife July 2011(after the first two price hikes) is roughly 40% more expensive than what I paid(online, not retail). Prices of diamonds below the 1ct mark have almost doubled in the past 2 years.

 

[Wreckem]

I guess in the grand scheme of things, ultimately the girls just want something for their friends to oooh and ahhh over.

Most of the time, a higher clarity diamond will have the better cut, I have not really seen one that have great clarity that's cut like crap. They just command better attention from the cutter. I mean, would you spend your time perfecting something that's not very good to begin with?

I've seen plenty of Triple EX/Triple 000 SI-1/SI-2s. I have also seen plenty of VVS's that have horrible cuts.

 

[SSSnail]

I always wonder where else it would not be worthless. You're only going to get a fraction of the cost back on resale in any event, so what does it really matter?

I don't know, all the stuff I bought are guaranteed 90% trade in value, I'm sure resale would be a bit less. Never had to resell anything, so I don't know what they'd fetch.

I always thought that quality > quantity, same goes for diamonds and their values. Try reselling anything of lesser quality and you'd be lucky to get a buyer, let alone fraction of the price. Just also happen that I know people that own jewelry stores, what the hell do they know.

 

[alkemyst]

90% trade in value lolz.

anyhow. No way to know what your stone is worth Sandeagle without the full cert and just because cert'd doesn't mean it's a good stone.

I have a great stone. My passion came from my first engagement ring at only .42 carats was found to be an awesome rock (it wasn't even cert'd). I started studying this insanity.

I was told today at a real jeweler that my ring was worth much more than the $5k I am asking. They are polishing and refinishing the band.


There are 1.1 carat certified stones worth a few hundred bucks out there.

 

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[kinderino_12]

keep that in your mind that ‘Carat’ is the unit of measuring the weight of a Diamond. In actual terms, 100 points equals one carat. By a common weight measure, one carat equals to one fifth of a gram. Being a precious stone, Diamonds balance is so sensitive.

 

[Juddog]

LOL that debeers still has people under it's control even after it was exposed years ago.

It's the equivalent of the cancer statement being officially drawn up for cigarettes but people still smoking 'em.

 

[madoka]

Well since there a bunch of experts on here. . . here's what I bought:

GIA cert
Round brilliant
1.42 carats
I color
VVS2 clarity
$13,200

Good deal?

 

[NutBucket]

Loose stone or with setting?

 

[madoka]

Loose stone or with setting?

Platinum Tiffany's setting