Diablo III release date April 17th?

[acheron]

Torchlight was a half-assed clone of Diablo. It was certainly fun enough for awhile, but it's hardly the same thing, and saying it's "better" is just dishonest.

 

[darkewaffle]

The only thing Torchlight lacked was the online mmo/multiplayer aspect which is what gave D2 it's longevity by giving people a reason to do the same thing over and over again. I'd give D2 the edge on mood as well.

Also April 17th 2013 is more likely than 2012

 

[Beev]

With how long it's been in beta I wouldn't be surprised by a 4/17 release date.

 

[badb0y]

No way there is so much more that needs to be fixed in the game.

 

[Beev]

Everyone said that about Starcraft 2. Everyone said that about WoW, about Burning Crusade, about Wrath, about Cataclysm. Everyone always says that, and they're rarely right.

Everyone in the beta is playing an older build. You have no idea how updated dev builds are. You don't know if they've fixed almost everything or if they've made features better. You just don't know.

 

[LurkerPrime]

I'de rather put my money on an end of the world prediction than a D3 rumored release date. When its officially announced by Blizzard, I'll believe it then.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Torchlight is already out now. You can buy it on steam for cheap..and its the same thing. It has a better everything. Graphics/gameplay/item drops.

If you want better voice actors then maybe that is worth more money to you.

torchlight is not D3, don't get me wrong, torchlight has it's place.

I am just happy they did not change D3 over to need/greed like in WoW. I loved the D2 style of looting, because I was almost always first at picking stuff up...rarely did I miss something worthwhile.

The only thing Torchlight lacked was the online mmo/multiplayer aspect which is what gave D2 it's longevity by giving people a reason to do the same thing over and over again. I'd give D2 the edge on mood as well.

Also April 17th 2013 is more likely than 2012

public beta generally means they're what... 3 months away?

 

[Aikouka]

torchlight was fun, but it definitely did not appeal to me the same way D2 did even though it was made by some of the people who made D1/D2.

As others have mentioned, Torchlight is really more of a clone of the original Diablo than Diablo II. I think it's interesting, because Torchlight II seems to be taking the same steps that Diablo took from 1 to 2. The original Diablo took place under Tristram, and the original Torchlight took place under... umm... whatever that city is called. Diablo 2 became more of an open world game, and that's exactly what Torchlight II is.

 

[thespyder]

public beta generally means they're what... 3 months away?

Um, we are talking Blizzard here. So the "Normal" rules on release don't apply.

I haven't been keeping up with all of the developments. someone said only online? Does that mean you can't play solo? If that is the case, that is a deal breaker for me. Online is fun and enjoyable, but I don't want to always have to deal with other players in my game. Just not my thing or style.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Um, we are talking Blizzard here. So the "Normal" rules on release don't apply.

I haven't been keeping up with all of the developments. someone said only online? Does that mean you can't play solo? If that is the case, that is a deal breaker for me. Online is fun and enjoyable, but I don't want to always have to deal with other players in my game. Just not my thing or style.

generally, i'd agree...but when Blizzard does their public beta's, we usually see the game in 3-6 months.

You can play online, alone ... I actually don't know if there is an offline single player mode.

 

[Fenixgoon]

As others have mentioned, Torchlight is really more of a clone of the original Diablo than Diablo II. I think it's interesting, because Torchlight II seems to be taking the same steps that Diablo took from 1 to 2. The original Diablo took place under Tristram, and the original Torchlight took place under... umm... whatever that city is called. Diablo 2 became more of an open world game, and that's exactly what Torchlight II is.

i still miss the creepy feeling of diablo1. literally sent chills down my spine. the music and ambiance of stepping foot into the cathedral was amazing, and only got more terrifying the farther down you went.

D2 did not have that

 

[JackSpadesSI]

i still miss the creepy feeling of diablo1. literally sent chills down my spine. the music and ambiance of stepping foot into the cathedral was amazing, and only got more terrifying the farther down you went.

D2 did not have that

Agreed. I haven't played D1 in ages, but I still remember this haunting moaning sound that was part of the audio track in either the Catacombs or Caves (I can't remember which). D2 had much better game mechanics, but it was a huge step down on the ambiance!

 

[thespyder]

I more or less see Torchlight as Diablo - Lite. The same/similar game mechanics, but a lot more cartoonie.

As for release dates, I still say I will believe it when Blizzard 'Officially' announces and not a moment before. Even reading the article from the original link is seems very 'Fuzzy' on the details and they even say that they are scheptical. All of which leads me to believe that the date is very arbitrary and therefore meaningless. "IF" Diablo 3 comes out on that date, I suspect it will be more of a coincidence rather than any form of "Inside information" or divination. JMHO.

I am not sure what to think about all of the online only talk.

 

[Aikouka]

I actually don't know if there is an offline single player mode.

There isn't. Everything is generated server-side, which means you must be connected to Battle.Net to play Diablo 3.

i still miss the creepy feeling of diablo1. literally sent chills down my spine. the music and ambiance of stepping foot into the cathedral was amazing, and only got more terrifying the farther down you went.

D2 did not have that

I actually don't really remember much about Diablo. Although, maybe Blizzard will get back to that feeling with Diablo 3? I'll have to check out the beta again to see what some of the music sounds like. I guess it wasn't that great (memorable) since I don't remember it.

 

[Anonemous]

It's kind of funny when you lag in Diablo 3. Your character will be going through the motions/hand gestures of casting the skills and no effects appear. This is especially hilarious when you are casting strafe when the demon hunter does whirlwinds with the guns blazing but all you see are her hands moving all over the place.

 

[Fenixgoon]

There isn't. Everything is generated server-side, which means you must be connected to Battle.Net to play Diablo 3.



I actually don't really remember much about Diablo. Although, maybe Blizzard will get back to that feeling with Diablo 3? I'll have to check out the beta again to see what some of the music sounds like. I guess it wasn't that great (memorable) since I don't remember it.

you can basically pick any section of diablo1 and the ambiance is there. i like the caves in particular, with a sort of metal-style soundtrack.

 

[SMOGZINN]

generally, i'd agree...but when Blizzard does their public beta's, we usually see the game in 3-6 months.

And according to all the info we have that is exactly what was expected when they started the Beta, then something went terribly wrong. They started re-working major game systems. The Q4/2011 slipped to Q1/2012, and that slipped to Q2/1012 and finally back to 'when ever it is done' with Blizzard offically telling their investors that they are unsure if they will ship anything in 2012.

You can play online, alone ... I actually don't know if there is an offline single player mode.

There are no offline modes at all. You must remain attached to Battle.net to play. You can however password protect your game and play alone, or with a hand picked group.

 

[Jumpem]

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Diablo-3-Release-Date-April-17th-40157.html

 

[5to1baby1in5]

I'de rather put my money on an end of the world prediction than a D3 rumored release date. When its officially announced by Blizzard, I'll believe it then.

BLIZZ: The end of the world is here.

 

[cmdrdredd]

There are no offline modes at all. You must remain attached to Battle.net to play. You can however password protect your game and play alone, or with a hand picked group.

This is why I won't touch the game. If my network suddenly goes down or I get a bad storm and am on a laptop I cannot even play. Lame.

Yeah but you might say everyone is online all the time anyway...not really.

 

[Dumac]

This is why I won't touch the game. If my network suddenly goes down or I get a bad storm and am on a laptop I cannot even play. Lame.

Yeah but you might say everyone is online all the time anyway...not really.

Torchlight would probably be better for you if you don't care for multiplayer.

 

[imaheadcase]

Torchlight was a half-assed clone of Diablo. It was certainly fun enough for awhile, but it's hardly the same thing, and saying it's "better" is just dishonest.

How so is it dishonest? Tell me something D3 has that torchlight does not have that effects the same core gameplay.

Being a "clone" of diablo 1 does not make it worst. Lots of clones are better than original.


Nevermind the fact you won't EVER get to mod diablo 2 like you can torchlight with all the mods.

 

[thespyder]

There are no offline modes at all. You must remain attached to Battle.net to play. You can however password protect your game and play alone, or with a hand picked group.

This may be a deal breaker for me. Which is a shame as I love both D1 and D2. I played the original Demo for D1 that I got from PC Gamer WAY back in the day.

Ah, well. I guess that is another franchise dead to me.

 

[QuantumPion]

How so is it dishonest? Tell me something D3 has that torchlight does not have that effects the same core gameplay.

Being a "clone" of diablo 1 does not make it worst. Lots of clones are better than original.


Nevermind the fact you won't EVER get to mod diablo 2 like you can torchlight with all the mods.

Torchlight lacks any variety in gameplay - every corridor on every level looks exactly the same and every group of enemies have the same appearance and abilities. It is a real grind, and there are no distractions, side quests, breaks, cut scenes, story, or anything else to vary the flow of the gameplay. This makes the game fun for a short while but it gets repetitive and boring immediately.

 

[thespyder]

Torchlight lacks any variety in gameplay - every corridor on every level looks exactly the same and every group of enemies have the same appearance and abilities. It is a real grind, and there are no distractions, side quests, breaks, cut scenes, story, or anything else to vary the flow of the gameplay. This makes the game fun for a short while but it gets repetitive and boring immediately.

I kind of have to agree with this assessment. I spent MONTHS playing Diablo 2 (just like I did with Diablo 1) and completed it half a dozen times at least, and then have gone back to it several times over the years to do it all again. When I picked up Torchlight, I didn't even finish the story line once and have no interest in going back.

Everything was exactly the same no matter where you went. Even the loot wasn't that interesting or varied. Point was it wasn't original in any way and there are better games out there that do the same thing, Diablo being chief among them.

It is true that 'Clones' of games will often times end up better than the original. Not in the case of Diablo (series). It spawned a genre and all of the games that came after don't compare (Titan Quest, Torchlight, Dungeon Siege, etc...). None are equal to the grand master. IMHO.