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Diabetes to double or triple in U.S. by 2050

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techs said:
Well, with HFCS in just about everything, I'm not surprised.
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Andrew111 said:
LOL, the true blame should be placed squarely on the fatties themselves. The only ones who can somewhat blame anyone or anything besides themselves are fat kids who don't know any better and have worthless parents who keep taking them to McDonalds and letting them sit on their ass watching TV all day so by the time they are teenagers they are already morbidly obese. For all others: Personal responsibility = GET SOME. If you're becoming obese take your ass to the gym and stop feeding yourself crap.

Unfortunately, personal responsibility seems to be a thing of the past. If it becomes an epidemic, perhaps we should create a "fatty police" much like Saudia Arabia has "religious police." If they see a fat bastard wolfing down a big mac at the local mall, they confiscate their food, give it to the homeless, and fine the fatty with a fat tax to pay for their higher health care costs in the future😛 If they become belligerent, they are within their rights to club them in the belly to make them puke up their unauthorized meal. Sadly, that might be the only way to make fatties stop eating fattening foods...at least in public anyway😛
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Not really. Even when people don't think they are eating sugar they are, since HFCS is in almost EVERYTHING that is processed.

Take a McDonalds hamburger. Its in the bun, the ketchup, the mustard and probably the meat and onions, too. IIRC they even spray some on the fries at the factory.

Basically your pancreas never gets a rest.
 
my one post in this ignorance filled thread.

They need to make the distinction between type 1 and type 2. Type 2 is generally self induced and deserves the wrath of you weak minded twits. Type 1 is inherited through no fault of the person. Their own bodies turn on them and attack the insulin creating part of the pancreas. That has nothing to do with HFCS, ice cream, pop or McDonalds.

Enjoy your ranting. I hope its everything you thought it would be.
 
rudeguy said:
my one post in this ignorance filled thread.

They need to make the distinction between type 1 and type 2. Type 2 is generally self induced and deserves the wrath of you weak minded twits. Type 1 is inherited through no fault of the person. Their own bodies turn on them and attack the insulin creating part of the pancreas. That has nothing to do with HFCS, ice cream, pop or McDonalds.

Enjoy your ranting. I hope its everything you thought it would be.
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It's even more complicated than that. There's data which suggests that diabetes among "healthy" people is increasing.

FYI, anyone who lives long enough is bound to become diabetic. 😀

That's a concern as average lifespans increase, but no one knows the upper genetic limit as the oldest people may not get it. Eventually they would, but that's simply because the pancreas wears out.
 
Train said:
Leadership 101 lesson I learned in the military: You can't have responsibility without authority.

The govt should not be subsidizing lifelong diabetes meds for people that it can't force to get off the couch, exercise, and eat a balanced diet.
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Yes. if your fat enough to not exercise and eat right, then your fat enough to pay for your own health coverage. why should i have to pay for your fat ass because I exercise and try to eat healthy? fat people piss me off. lol
 
Eventually the pinnacle of human development will be when we have figured out a way to use a combo of drugs and machines to keep ourselves alive infinitely while eating whatever we want and not moving an inch. We will all be 5000 lb. immobile blobs of fat and machine with a brain in the middle. I look forward to this day. Paradise...
 
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There is surprisingly little actually known about diabetes - all the different types, how it develops, how it works, and how to cure it. Med companies don't want to cure diabetes - they want to sell medication, test strips, etc. It's very expensive to be diabetic these days. Beats dying, but still.
 
princess ida said:
There is surprisingly little actually known about diabetes - all the different types, how it develops, how it works, and how to cure it. Med companies don't want to cure diabetes - they want to sell medication, test strips, etc. It's very expensive to be diabetic these days. Beats dying, but still.
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either post proof of what you just said or STFU

The "med companies" work closely with the JDRF, ADA and other organizations that are undoubtedly working to find a cure. I deal with your evil "med companies" all the time and can tell you that they are more compassionate and empathetic than you could ever imagine. I can promise you that if the CEO of Johnson and Johnson had even a glimmer of a chance of curing diabetes, he would. Anyone that deals with this disease and sees the suffering that innocent children and their families go through would gladly give up whatever money they were making to prevent one more family from having to go through it.
 
Homerboy said:
I was just coming in here to comment on the "fat vs skinny" comments in here thus far.

While not "statistics", I know 7 people that have diabetes. I'd say 5 of them are of "normal weight". The other 2 are fatties.
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This. I know 2 diabetic people. 1 of them is average and good shape, 1 is skinny and pale. Considering how many people I've met over the years, that's a remarkably low percentage of people.

So tell me, internet. Where all dese diabetic people at?


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I think it was yesterday we did this, but I started a thread asking how many people in offices have free coffee and are your coworkers skinny or fat. For the offices with free coffee, roughly 2/3 of the votes went to the option of most people in that office being skinny. I'm convicned the fat problem is not really a problem. We're working jobs where we sit all day and get no exercise at all, and most of ATOT voted skinny.
 
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techs said:
Well, with HFCS in just about everything, I'm not surprised.
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That's a pretty dumb statement.

If you wanted to say something smart, it should have been more along the lines of eating crappy foods, totally out of proportion for what is healthy, and also doing little exercise.

IGBT said:
eat garbage and inject insulin. Good luck to all you fast food fools.
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Insulin won't really help you with Type II diabetes, considering that a main component of the disease is insulin resistance. But you're always welcome to take those insulin receptor sensitizers, some available, many still under development and initial stages of research, along with your insulin. Probably carries a nice price tag.
 
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techs said:
Not really. Even when people don't think they are eating sugar they are, since HFCS is in almost EVERYTHING that is processed.

Take a McDonalds hamburger. Its in the bun, the ketchup, the mustard and probably the meat and onions, too. IIRC they even spray some on the fries at the factory.

Basically your pancreas never gets a rest.
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Your ignorance is astounding.

HFCS is in everything SUGAR used to be in. If HFCS were banned, you'd just see sugar on the label. 6 of one, half dozen of another.

Sugar has ALWAYS been in bread, ketchup, mustard. (It's not added in the meat or onions unless caramelized). Bread without sugar is sourdough and ketchup without sugar is tomato paste.

And for the icing on the cake of your dumbassedness?

the HFCS used in foods has LESS fructose than sugar. It's actually HEALTHIER. HFCS 42 is what is mainly used in foods. It is 42% fructose. Sugar is 50% fructose.

But... don't let the facts get in your way... you've got a knee-jerk opinion and a bogeyman to blame and it's your right to ignorantly spout it.
 
Sugar has ALWAYS been in bread, ketchup, mustard. (It's not added in the meat or onions unless caramelized). Bread without sugar is sourdough and ketchup without sugar is tomato paste.
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At home we've never put sugar in the bread we make. And I don't remember seeing any sugar in the ingredients list on bread. Unless you count flour as a sugar.
 
Mr. Pedantic said:
At home we've never put sugar in the bread we make. And I don't remember seeing any sugar in the ingredients list on bread. Unless you count flour as a sugar.
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Been awhile since I made bread, but the yeast needs sugar to eat, and make the dough rise.
 
Amused said:
Your ignorance is astounding.

HFCS is in everything SUGAR used to be in. If HFCS were banned, you'd just see sugar on the label. 6 of one, half dozen of another.

Sugar has ALWAYS been in bread, ketchup, mustard. (It's not added in the meat or onions unless caramelized). Bread without sugar is sourdough and ketchup without sugar is tomato paste.

And for the icing on the cake of your dumbassedness?

the HFCS used in foods has LESS fructose than sugar. It's actually HEALTHIER. HFCS 42 is what is mainly used in foods. It is 42% fructose. Sugar is 50% fructose.

But... don't let the facts get in your way... you've got a knee-jerk opinion and a bogeyman to blame and it's your right to ignorantly spout it.
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Mr. Pedantic said:
At home we've never put sugar in the bread we make. And I don't remember seeing any sugar in the ingredients list on bread. Unless you count flour as a sugar.
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Yes, the previous poster fails to realize I was commenting on processed foods. And that because of its ridiculously low subsidized price hfcs is not only used in place of sugar, it is far more likely to be added to a food because of its low price.
 
the US government needs to end corn subsidies. That will drive up the cost of all these fast food joints. Take that money and subsidize healthy calories.
 
techs said:
Yes, the previous poster fails to realize I was commenting on processed foods. And that because of its ridiculously low subsidized price hfcs is not only used in place of sugar, it is far more likely to be added to a food because of its low price.
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There is no more sweetener in foods now, than before HFCS. There may be more sweet treats on the market, but common foods have no more sweetener in them.

Your knee is ignorantly jerking again.

Why add a sweetener to a food that doesn't need it?

And, again, the VAST majority of bread recipes call for sugar (or alternative caloric sweetener).
 
Amused said:
Um, yes.

Also, this:

http://www.whats4eats.com/blogs/chefbrad/does-sugar-help-bread-yeast-grow
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sourdough is a bread that uses lactobacilius (usually in combination with yeast) as its leavening agent. regular bread (which is actually the much newer kind) just uses yeast. the sourdough starter does not particularly need sugar to stay alive, it just needs regular flour and water additions.

iow, sugar is not needed, and adding sugar to regular commercial yeast does not make sourdough.
 
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