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werepossum said:
As usual, you see nothing beyond Hillary's rectum. State maintains a two-tiered system that requires the user to select the appropriate classification for each message and allows any classified, sensitive, or compartmentalized information to be sent ONLY to secure computers.
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Negative. NIPR and SIPR are separated and only meet at specialized appliances where data is downgraded or stepped up. Separate boxes at your desk/station, and separate Email accounts.


werepossum said:
Amusingly, even the classification stamps on the "small number" of emails sent by Mrs. Clinton which had security classification markings is not evidence that Mrs. Clinton intentionally sent or received classified information.

It's good to be the queen.


At a certain level, stupidity and ignorance constitute an iron-clad defense.
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Stamps can say UNCLASSIFIED or (U), just FYI.
 
FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook
The lack of intent to harm our country is irrelevant. People never intend the bad things that happen due to gross negligence.
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The FBI director laid out the case for prosecution. His findings read as a list of crimes for which, today, there are no charges for the rich and powerful. Just don't count on getting the same deal if you are found having transmitted TOP SECRET and/or SPECIAL ACCESS PROGRAMS (SAP) documents.
 
Jaskalas said:
FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook


The FBI director laid out the case for prosecution. His findings read as a list of crimes for which, today, there are no charges for the rich and powerful. Just don't count on getting the same deal if you are found having transmitted TOP SECRET and/or SPECIAL ACCESS PROGRAMS (SAP) documents.
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It's pitiful and painful watching you guys flail around. Patreus purposefully gave away classified material to his reporter mistress and he only got probation. The fact you thought Hilary would get indicted is proof positive of the conservative spin bubble you live in.
 
Here's the definition...sounds a lot like "extremely careless" to me.
Gross negligence is legally culpable carelessness, showing a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, and likely to cause foreseeable grave injury or harm. The difference between "negligence" and "gross negligence" may be somewhat subjective. Negligence is the opposite of diligence, or being careful. The standard of ordinary negligence is what conduct deviates from the proverbial "reasonable person." By analogy, if somebody has been grossly negligent, that means they have fallen so far below the ordinary standard of care that one can expect, to warrant the label of being "gross."
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Buh-bye little indictment fantasy! Buh-bye!

We're going to miss that one. So cute. So endearing. So very, very special.

Maybe it's not dead. Maybe it's just pining for the fjords.
 
Ahahahaha!!! Yes, you are throwing a temper tantrum.



FerrelGeek said:
I wasn't throwing a temper tantrum; if I was, kiddo, you'd know it. You obviously have no reading or verbal comprehension skills. Though not recommended for indictment (absolutely NO surprise there - btw sparky, I stated in a different thread last week that she wouldn't be indicted), the director DID chastise her as others have aptly stated.

Congrats for continuing your endeavor to be the stupidest partisan hack on the forum. You do know that a good many of your own Ds despise your beloved witch , don't you? Go back to your pasture, my brainless little lamb; your precious elites will take good care of you.
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Doc Savage Fan said:
Is there any way we can get this moron banned for having the IQ of a gnat? Rhetorical question...but damn this guy is fn stupid!
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Lol! Says the guy who gets owned by his own sources, says the guy who when proven wrong resorts to, "who me", says the guy who puts people on ignore and yet consistently responds to them and talks shit. Someone is f-n stupid but it's not me.
 
Pens1566 said:
Negative. NIPR and SIPR are separated and only meet at specialized appliances where data is downgraded or stepped up. Separate boxes at your desk/station, and separate Email accounts.

Stamps can say UNCLASSIFIED or (U), just FYI.
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I wouldn't argue - perhaps I worded that badly? I have posted info about NIPR and SIPR before. It's a pretty nifty system that makes it absolutely impossible to accidentally send classified information to non-secure computers as long as one selects the proper classification before sending. As long as there are no Mrs. Clintons in the system anyway. One of the Clinton email threads was her frustration because she wanted a particular document, and although the aide had access to both systems, he/she had no way to transfer it from the classified side to the non-classified side.

Comey specifically identified a "small number" of emails that Mrs. Clinton both sent and received which were in fact marked classified at the time.

Jaskalas said:
FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook

The FBI director laid out the case for prosecution. His findings read as a list of crimes for which, today, there are no charges for the rich and powerful. Just don't count on getting the same deal if you are found having transmitted TOP SECRET and/or SPECIAL ACCESS PROGRAMS (SAP) documents.
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One could argue that the federal law was effectively rewritten when no one prosecuted the Bushies for occasionally doing the same thing. Granted, it's a two-tiered legal system, but those tiers are elite and non-elite, not Democrat and Republican.

emperus said:
It's pitiful and painful watching you guys flail around. Patreus purposefully gave away classified material to his reporter mistress and he only got probation. The fact you thought Hilary would get indicted is proof positive of the conservative spin bubble you live in.
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And Hillary purposefully gave away classified material to her lawyer, stored it on non-secure computers both in her basement (which is at least physically secure) and at server farms which don't even have sensitive data secure rooms, and emailed it to others without clearance. Hillary's crimes very much trump those of Petreaus and she got a free pass.

This should be a lesson to those at David Petreaus' level: You may THINK you are one of the elites, but if you are in the military, you really aren't.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
Here's the definition...sounds a lot like "extremely careless" to me.
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Let me highlight some key points you weren't smart enough to see for yourself:

ross negligence is legally culpable carelessness, showing a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, and likely to cause foreseeable grave injury or harm. The difference between "negligence" and "gross negligence" may be somewhat subjective. Negligence is the opposite of diligence, or being careful. The standard of ordinary negligence is what conduct deviates from the proverbial "reasonable person." By analogy, if somebody has been grossly negligent, that means they have fallen so far below the ordinary standard of care that one can expect, to warrant the label of being "gross."
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werepossum said:
And Hillary purposefully gave away classified material to her lawyer, stored it on non-secure computers both in her basement (which is at least physically secure) and at server farms which don't even have sensitive data secure rooms, and emailed it to others without clearance.
Hillary's crimes very much trump those of Petreaus and she got a free pass.

This should be a lesson to those at David Petreaus' level: You may THINK you are one of the elites, but if you are in the military, you really aren't.
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😱 Did you really just write this? Wowsie
 
emperus said:
It's pitiful and painful watching you guys flail around. Patreus purposefully gave away classified material to his reporter mistress and he only got probation. The fact you thought Hilary would get indicted is proof positive of the conservative spin bubble you live in.
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And he got probation specifically because AG Holder cut him a deal despite much harsher recommendations from the FBI & Justice Dept.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/u...s-against-former-gen-david-petraeus.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/david-petraeus-to-be-sentenced-in-leak-investigation.html
I bet they had a private meeting on a tarmac before the hearing.
 
Gonad the Barbarian said:
And he got probation specifically because AG Holder cut him a deal despite much harsher recommendations from the FBI & Justice Dept.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/u...s-against-former-gen-david-petraeus.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/david-petraeus-to-be-sentenced-in-leak-investigation.html
I bet they had a private meeting on a tarmac before the hearing.
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Yeh, it's a shame that the right wing only got a week's raving out of Bill's faux pas in Phoenix. Poor dears.
 
I'm going to sleep better tonight knowing that in the opinion of the FBI my gmail account is more secure than Hillary's private email servers.
 
Jhhnn said:
Buh-bye little indictment fantasy! Buh-bye!

We're going to miss that one. So cute. So endearing. So very, very special.

Maybe it's not dead. Maybe it's just pining for the fjords.
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One of the better laughs I've had in awhile.

😎
 
Now I just imagined the Cersei Shame... Shame... Shame... wine-boarding scene with Hillary's face super-imposed on Cersei with Sander's face over the nun's face and Zombie-Obama walking in....


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Doc Savage Fan said:
Here's what Comey said regarding this. But it's essentially a given that Hillary will not face such sanctions.
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This is the part I take issue with. I can see not pressing charges, but it really seems like others in this position would be stripped of eligibility to receive security clearance, especially to the level of POTUS.

This is all under consideration that Comey's report paints a worse picture than what Hillary or her supporters have been insisting. The FBI says that there were dozens of e-mails classified at the time of transmission, including several at Top Secret classification. This shoots down any claims that Hillary is merely the victim of over-classification or that up-classification shouldn't apply retroactively to insecure storage. The FBI also says that there were work-related e-mails that could only be retrieved by a pain-staking piecing of fragments from a decommissioned server. Meaning that the e-mails turned over by Hillary were not in fact complete, so she is guilty of not turning over the appropriate material. Which also contained e-mails that were classified at the time of transmission.

Furthermore, Hillary's attorneys used their own discretion and methodologies to selectively turn over the e-mails, and the FBI has deemed these methods to be insufficient. They also say that it's likely that they weren't able to examine all the e-mail content. I also think this is pretty likely. Should her concerns of privacy from the government ever outweighed an investigation that had national security implications?

I work with a government contractor and we regularly have to train for how to handle classified and sensitive but unclassified data, and I'm really confident that if I were caught in a situation like this I wouldn't get off without any repercussions.
 
It would be impossible to strip the president or someone who became the president of their clearance as the president is the source of all clearances.
 
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