Development on Clinton Email Probe?

[Moonbeam]

I interpreted Gowdy's comments as asserting that a former First Lady, Senator and SoS should be held to a higher standard given an expectation of her having an elevated awareness around implications in her decision making.

I find the line of questions challenging Comey's integrity absolutely out of line.

You are free to hold her to a higher standard at the polls. Justice isn't supposed to have different standards for different people, wink wink.

 

[senseamp]

Here is reality for you Republicans, Clinton handily out-polled Trump while under an actual FBI criminal investigation.
Some partisan congressional "investigations" are not going to do it for you.

 

[Knowing]

Here is reality for you Republicans, Clinton handily out-polled Trump while under an actual FBI criminal investigation.
Some partisan congressional "investigations" are not going to do it for you.

What criminal investigation? I thought it was a security inquiry.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Here is reality for you Republicans, Clinton handily out-polled Trump while under an actual FBI criminal investigation.
Some partisan congressional "investigations" are not going to do it for you.

Trump is a buffoon and dead on arrival as a candidate. For those of us in the "none of the above" camp, the hope of a Clinton indictment was the emergence of a Sanders or Biden let ticket. Oh well. That dream is officially dead.

 

[senseamp]

Trump is a buffoon and dead on arrival as a candidate. For those of us in the "none of the above" camp, the hope of a Clinton indictment was the emergence of a Sanders or Biden let ticket. Oh well. That dream is officially dead.

Sanders is a Socialist. Too many recent failures in places like Brazil and Venezuela to experiment with it now.
I feel like world is going a bit crazy with Brexit, etc. Now is not the time to try extreme course changes, even though it's tempting to "send a message."
I do like Biden though.

 

[dainthomas]

They can launch whatever they want, the question is who will take them seriously, since they've cried Wolf so many times. And of course there is the small problem of their nominee being Trump.

At this point they're just trying to weaken her enough to limit her to one term.

Hopefully they're practicing saying "Madame President" in the mirror.

 

[Jhhnn]

At this point they're just trying to weaken her enough to limit her to one term.

Hopefully they're practicing saying "Madame President" in the mirror.

At this point they're just trying save their own hides so as not to be primaried out by their radical base.

Their conduct today has been utterly shameful in ways that fringe whacks seem to love.

 

[TheGardener]

Here is reality for you Republicans, Clinton handily out-polled Trump while under an actual FBI criminal investigation.
Some partisan congressional "investigations" are not going to do it for you.

Did you know that the FBI was so concerned that Al "Scarface" Capone was being glorified in national newspapers, that they felt that they need to come up with a way to counter his popularity.

Oh, and you failed the party line, figuratively and literally. Keep saying this until you internalize it. "There was no criminal investigation."

 

[TheGardener]

Sanders is a Socialist. Too many recent failures in places like Brazil and Venezuela to experiment with it now.
I feel like world is going a bit crazy with Brexit, etc. Now is not the time to try extreme course changes, even though it's tempting to "send a message."
I do like Biden though.

Well they do have Cuba and North Korea to hold up as a success story.

 

[raildogg]

Here is reality for you Republicans, Clinton handily out-polled Trump while under an actual FBI criminal investigation.
Some partisan congressional "investigations" are not going to do it for you.

What does being ahead in polls mean? It's meaningless (besides telling us who is ahead). It does not mean that one is a "better" candidate than the other.

Often times, the best liars and crooks get elected.

 

[Jhhnn]

Did you know that the FBI was so concerned that Al "Scarface" Capone was being glorified in national newspapers, that they felt that they need to come up with a way to counter his popularity.

Oh, and you failed the party line, figuratively and literally. Keep saying this until you internalize it. "There was no criminal investigation."

Reality is a little tough at the moment, huh?

It doesn't matter how the investigation was characterized in the past. It matters what it is today.

No indictments. Case closed. Congressional Repubs shamelessly impugning the integrity & judgement of James B. Comey, one of the most capable, honest & forthright individuals to ever serve the People. His record proves it.

I get why Repubs should be horribly upset with the people they've elected. And they are, just for all the wrong reasons.

Anybody who wants integrity in govt needs to take a long hard look at the integrity of the people they voted into office before demanding it from the opposition. Repub conduct over the last 8 years has been astoundingly bad, particularly after they delivered the invasion of Iraq & the greatest financial crisis since 1929, then obstructed all efforts to counter that.

Has their basic philosophy of govt changed one iota since they delivered those twin catastrophes? No. They still want to do things the same way they have since Reagan. Same hyper aggressive Neocon foreign policy. Same free market job creator trickle down theory of economics they've held all along. We're living the results of it. How do you like it now? Want to give them a do-over like Kansas or Louisiana?

Nobody talks about that stuff much because we're all being led around by the nose by a sensationalist yellow media spouting a continuous stream of right wing conspiracy theory about shit that doesn't really matter much, from Birtherism thru Benghazi & now this.

Republicans need to demand a helluva lot more than that from their representatives.

 

[Artdeco]

Fox (yeah I know) is reporting 150 agents assigned to CF investigation.

 

[MongGrel]

Fox (yeah I know) is reporting 150 agents assigned to CF investigation.

If that is true I'm really sick of this crap. Well, I have been a long time anyway.

McCarthyism in action again and I'm sick of these guys pulling in big paychecks on the tax payers dime.

It has gotten beyond pathetic.

 

[werepossum]

That is the irony in all of this. Rules and expectations around transparency all increased largely in response to the Bush Administration's complete and utter lack of respect for it. Obama rode into the White House on a wave of discontent over this lack of transparency and unethical conduct. He promised change. And his own SoS undermined that very ideal by implementing a system that's only logical reason to exist is to avoid or control transparency. The secure info semantics is simply the gotcha of a broader ethical question. I bet Kerry doesn't have a private email server.

Good point, although Jackson did the same thing at the EPA and Holdren did the same as his science advisor, albeit not with servers in their own basements. It's not so much Hillary undermining Obama as following his lead too well.

That is what most likely happened because of gross negligence.

Nah. Any professional would look at that server and think "nobody's that stupid, it's obviously a trap to identify our hackers and their means and methods."

You are free to hold her to a higher standard at the polls. Justice isn't supposed to have different standards for different people, wink wink.

Yeah, but that involves voting for Trump. I wish you well with that, but personally I don't have the stomach for it.

 

[Greenman]

What does being ahead in polls mean? It's meaningless (besides telling us who is ahead). It does not mean that one is a "better" candidate than the other.

Often times, the best liars and crooks get elected.

You don't understand how it works. The polls are the weekly games, you want your team to win every one of those, then even if they lose the big game you can still point out how they had better stats all the way along.

 

[Artdeco]

State Dept is reopening its investigation.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...IGATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36742095

 

[Greenman]

Good point, although Jackson did the same thing at the EPA and Holdren did the same as his science advisor, albeit not with servers in their own basements. It's not so much Hillary undermining Obama as following his lead too well.


Nah. Any professional would look at that server and think "nobody's that stupid, it's obviously a trap to identify our hackers and their means and methods."


Yeah, but that involves voting for Trump. I wish you well with that, but personally I don't have the stomach for it.

With Hillary we know what we're getting, nothing good. With Trump there is the chance he might actually improve something. Think of it as Russian roulette with 2 bullets and one of them has a 50-50 chance of being a dud.

Hope springs eternal.

 

[senseamp]

State Dept is reopening its investigation.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...IGATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36742095

Good for them. But Clinton doesn't work for the State department anymore

 

[Starbuck1975]

Good for them. But Clinton doesn't work for the State department anymore

Adds a whole new dimension of innuendo and speculation to the spontaneous Lynch meeting if it turns out the Clinton Foundation is under investigation. We can call it Tarmacgate or Planegate or Departuregate (ha!!!)

 

[Artdeco]

Good for them. But Clinton doesn't work for the State department anymore

Some of her old staffers still work for state, and it probably fries Huma.

 

[senseamp]

Adds a whole new dimension of innuendo and speculation to the spontaneous Lynch meeting if it turns out the Clinton Foundation is under investigation. We can call it Tarmacgate or Planegate or Departuregate (ha!!!)

People don't care about speculation and innuendo anymore. Clinton was leading Trump even under a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI. Innuendo and speculation are nothing but noise.

 

[senseamp]

Some of her old staffers still work for state, and it probably fries Huma.

Huma doesn't work at the State Department either.

 

[Jhhnn]

State Dept is reopening its investigation.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...IGATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36742095

Peachy. What makes you think that it might turn out differently than the FBI investigation?

Righties are so strung out on this that they can't let go of it. Their emotional investment is obviously huge. OTOH, the only thing keeping the bubble inflated was all the hot air about an indictment.

Kiss that goodbye like the rest of America is doing. Or cling tightly to the shouldabeens.

 

[Jhhnn]

Adds a whole new dimension of innuendo and speculation to the spontaneous Lynch meeting if it turns out the Clinton Foundation is under investigation. We can call it Tarmacgate or Planegate or Departuregate (ha!!!)

That's quite daft. The State dept and the DoJ are entirely different departments of the Cabinet.

It's nice of you to mention speculation & innuendo even as you engage in it wrt the Clinton Foundation.

That's double daft.

 

[Starbuck1975]

People don't care about speculation and innuendo anymore. Clinton was leading Trump even under a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI. Innuendo and speculation are nothing but noise.

There is no way for Clinton not to lead Trump. He simply doesn't have the coalition to win. The republicans should seriously be looking for ways to wrest the nomination from his luxurious, classiest, big hands. Clinton is still standing but definitely battered against a more competent opponent. Knowing what we know today, Sanders probably could have put her away.

What we did learn today is that:

The FBI chose not to indict based on gross negligence alone, as there's only been one indictment under that provision in recent history. Comey made a compelling argument for that decision and embarrassed his detractors in the process.

The FBI failed to confirm or deny an investigation into the Clinton foundation, which probably means someone is at least examining it. That is more than just partisan background noise.

The State Department will most likely continue its investigation now that the FBI investigation is complete, which could result in a few Clinton surrogates losing their security clearances. Not exactly a great outcome.

Those scenarios are still political liabilities to Clinton and none of them are partisan in motivation or nature.

The witch hunts and vindictive actions we can expect is a childish move to revoke Clinton's access to security briefings prior to the election, and congress compelling the FBI to investigate Clinton lying under oath during the Benghazi hearings.

Sure seems like a lot of grievance to shield yoga appointments and cookie recipes.