Detonator 7.27 drivers....and yes they have HSR!!! :)

[NFS4]

Told ya so


<< I have no time to translate word for word but briefly they say this driver introduces hardware HSR support on geforce family cards. How? the site reports HSR is done trough registers combiners setting up a 'removal matrix' that is applied after 'scene setup'. Then a filtering is done in order to avoid artifacts(!?). That works only underl OpenGL and they say Quake3 with these feature activated gain about a 30% but is not possible to use HSR and NSR both at the same time. 7.27 should be public in 10 days. Then they reports having other leaked info about new drivers that will be put on line tomorrow. >>


http://www.3dgpu.com

 

[StickHead]

Quote from all the ATI idiots:

&quot;Are you happy now, look what YOU did, now their is a monopoly in the market, whin,whin...&quot;

Answer:


YES!!!

 

[han888]

just wait and see, it doesn;t mean the new driver wil run without conflict do u know what i mean?? just count how many driver have been release already too many.......

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p3-800@1000 alpha pal30t
asus cusl2 1003.004
256mb hyundai pc133
64mb voodoo5 5500

p3-700@882 artic cooler
asus cuv4x 1005
256mb sdram p133
32mb asus v7100

 

[Doomguy]

LOL and DaveB3D assured me NVidia wasent going to release drivers with HSR. Look who's the fool now...

 

[RobsTV]

Watch what you say. :Q
Nothing has been released yet.
No telling who the fool is yet to be..

 

[Mem]

Now the big question anybody brave enough to try them?

 

[BW]

Stick you cant be seriuos about a monopoly. Thats not good for anybody.Besides we allknow nvidia wont stay on top forever. Look at the once mighty 3dfx. Nobody could even come close to them for along time.Nothing stays the same.

 

[RobsTV]

If they are anything like the 3dfx ones, and only work in 1 game, forget it.

 

[Deeko]

Doomguy, I don't think he's a fool, if that's what you're insinuating.

 

[Daemon_UK]

DaveB3D what are you thoughts on this? espically when ...

DaveB3D is wrong!!

... Quote...



Hey,


I'm *NOT* pulling a Hardware with his anti-3dfx (or in this case would anti-NVIDIA). Rather, I just thought you guys should know and would want to know that NVIDIA will not be doing software HSR/occlusion culling.

http://www.planetgeforce.com/#newsitem976649325,22834,

Diane from NV wrote:

Hidden Surface Removal - z occlusion/z culling is not a feature which will ever be enabled for any of our current product line. As for NV20, we do not talk about any products before they are announced


Now I won't say &quot;told ya&quot; or anything like that.

Hehe

 

[Daemon_UK]

If they are anything like the 3dfx ones, and only work in 1 game, forget it.

Yeah, but they won't be. Cause Nvidia have much better Engineers than 3DFX....

... soon they might have some of their own.

Besides we allknow nvidia wont stay on top forever

Oh come on, think about it, unless ATI get their act together with their drivers... but Nvidia
have got

1) Their own top notch enginners
2) Matrox Engineers
3) Silicon Graphics Engineers ?? (can't remember but Nvidia took some a while ago)
4) .. soon to be 3DFX with knowledge of Gigapixel..

and with a team like this, how can you fail?

 

[BW]

Man they wont stay on top in telling you.They may for a few years but they will get surpassed.Anybody who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves.Nothing stays the same.

 

[DaveB3D]

If they are doing i in registry combiners, there is not point. Unless they can somehow remove hidden textures, but even then not likely. By the time the scene is in the register combiners HSR wouldn't accomblish anything because the grunt work is already done.

 

[RobsTV]

.

 

[hclarkjr]

so where do you get them at? i checked the usual beta sites but no sign of them yet.

 

[Daemon_UK]

7.27 should be public in 10 days.

Oh, and I can't wait.

Hurry up Nvidia....

 

[Killrose]

This is exactly why competition is good. 3dfx releases cards supporting FSAA, nVida responds with drivers supporting it. 3dfx releases drivers supporting HSR, nVida responds with drivers supporting it.
The sad thing is that nVida has been holding out, possibly waiting to support these features in their up-comming products, and really not wanting to give us these features untill we buy their latest most expensive hardware. I like nVida products, but the worst thing for the consumer is a monopoly, and with 3dfx gone now, we will be paying those premiums.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Dave, I am beginning to question your opinion on a lot of things. I remember when someone was saying that the Rampage wasn't going to be released and you responded by saying something like &quot;that's news to me&quot;. Now 3dfx is dead. You said Nvidia wouldn't release HSR drivers, and NOW THEY DO.

 

[DaveB3D]

Like I was supposed to know 3dfx was going to die.. Give me a break...


As for the HSR, there is still zero evidence of this and NVIDIA themselves have said it wouldn't happen. And then there is this claim about the combiners oing HSR, which sounds like BS because combiners are just used for math calcs with textures. It could be true, but I HIGHLY doubt the combiners can do that.. I don't see how.

 

[DominoBoy]

I have to agree with Dave for two reasons.

1) He knows more than Pidge + LSD + Compellor + Stickhead + Doomguy + NFS4 all combined. Of course those guys are a joke anyways.
All they do is trash other cards and pretend that Nvidia has no problems. It's really sad when you realize that it's the only way they can feel good about their life. I feel sorry for them.

2) Since the last several Nvidia drivers have been buggy and unstable, I wouldn't expect these to be any different.

By the way, it's a shame that drivers will never be able to improve the image quality of the GeForce2 cards. I might even keep mine if they could. Unfortunately though, what you see is what you get. It's a real shame.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

You realize that you're opinion means far less now than it used to. So, when you say that you HIGHLY doubt something, I don't take you too seriously. You highly doubted 3dfx ever going out of business, and guess what happened. I am willing to bet that the hsr drivers will give some improvement, but not as much as 3dfx's drivers did. But still, improvement is good, however small.

 

[RoboTECH]

before we get all wooded out and horny over these drivers, what say we wait until they hit the streets?

y'know, stability and stuff?

It'd be great if they do hit the streets and are stable, solid, and working, with performance increase, but 7.17 was SOOOOO fuXor3d that I'ma bit skeptical.

 

[lsd]

<< 1) He knows more than Pidge + LSD + Compellor + 'D'ickhead + Doomguy + NFS4 all combined. Of course those guys are a joke anyways. All they do is trash other cards and pretend that Nvidia has no problems. It's really sad when you realize that it's the only way they can feel good about their life. I feel sorry for them. >>


It is true that he knows more, but not everything he says is true. I do question his &quot;sources&quot; and his ability to give a straight answer. I think even Hardware gave much more accurate info than he did.
------edit-----
BTW: you're an idiot.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Robotech, don't you own a voodoo 5? anyway all nvidia USERS know that the 7.xx are currently buggy as hell. Nobody uses them.

 

[Phokus]

Will the HSR work with a TNT 2 ultra?