DeSantis' latest brilliance, a permanent sales tax holiday on gas stoves in FL

[MrSquished]

Only ones I know of are the new heat pump versions. You still need a hose to go to the washer drain for the moisture.

Yep, but those are definitely not gas dryers. And most ventless electric dryers are pretty shitty, I've seen a lot in my line of work, though I heard they are getting better.

 

[IronWing]

We just use a clothesline. I have never owned a dryer, seems like a waste of space and energy.

 

[Jaskalas]

Saw this today. Also, why do people think restaurants with more and constant gas cooking must have powerful vents to suck out all the harmful things that creates in the air?

Fake news, everybody knows that those fans are to clear the air of stinking libs and their tears over gas stoves. #'Mercia!!!!

 

[ivwshane]

Once we stop converting gas to electricity, the next step will be to stop using it to directly power things as well. Everything will be electric. And if the news I'm reading about the growth in renewables is accurate, then we should all be looking at replacing these gas powered appliances fairly soon. It's one thing to hold on to an old gas powered appliance as long as you can, but no one should seriously consider buying a new one.

You are right but it’s about economics and not everyone has the money to convert gas to electric, even if they are already in the market for a new dryer. When making such policy decisions it’s just smart to think about how it will negatively impact all Americans and how to help those less fortunate.

 

[Moonbeam]

DeSantis should make this his Presidential Campaign slogan. "You can pry my gas range out of my cold dead carbon monoxide affiliated fingers. It could cost Trump millions of votes.

 

[hal2kilo]

We just use a clothesline. I have never owned a dryer, seems like a waste of space and energy.

You don't live in the Northwest without a basement. Yea, I still remember clothes lines in the basement during the winter (where the furnace was).

 

[IronWing]

You don't live in the Northwest without a basement. Yea, I still remember clothes lines in the basement during the winter (where the furnace was).

I lived in a small apartment in Kentucky and never needed a dryer.

 

[trenchfoot]

After gifting myself with rooftop solar power and an (oxymoronic) "energy efficient" dryer the only thing I now use the clothesline in the backyard for is hanging painted car parts for my restoration projects without having the wifey pummeling my head with a rolled up newspaper anymore.

 

[woolfe9998]

You are right but it’s about economics and not everyone has the money to convert gas to electric, even if they are already in the market for a new dryer. When making such policy decisions it’s just smart to think about how it will negatively impact all Americans and how to help those less fortunate.

Well the EV tax credit only applies to those who make less than 120K, which is the median income in the county I live in. Because I guess Joe Manchin thinks that anyone making more than that has money to burn on whatever car they want.

We need to get everyone off fossil fuels. Fast. My point here is it is time to start thinking about that. Buying anything gas powered is not very forward looking, especially given that appliances are supposed to last ~20 years and cars are supposed to last 10.

 

[nakedfrog]

We just use a clothesline. I have never owned a dryer, seems like a waste of space and energy.

Feels like it's more time efficient to toss everything in the dryer and walk away than it is to hang up a bunch of laundry on a clothesline.

 

[nakedfrog]

We need to get everyone off fossil fuels. Fast. My point here is it is time to start thinking about that. Buying anything gas powered is not very forward looking, especially given that appliances are supposed to last ~20 years and cars are supposed to last 10.

I expect a lot more than that out of cars...

 

[woolfe9998]

I expect a lot more than that out of cars...

Then don't buy a gas powered car unless you still desire to be driving one for however long you intend to own the car.

 

[Tsinni Dave]

Feels like it's more time efficient to toss everything in the dryer and walk away than it is to hang up a bunch of laundry on a clothesline.

Clothes last much longer without a dryer - the lint in the lint filter used to be your clothes. I hang everything to dry and I live in the world's most northern rainforest. I just replaced a couple of my workshirts this winter and one was from 1984, but I admit that is an outlier as that thing was government issued when I worked at a jail and was like wearing plywood for the first 10 years. Also I find the time spent hanging the laundry is offset by the fact the clothes are easier to fold afterward.

 

[nakedfrog]

Clothes last much longer without a dryer - the lint in the lint filter used to be your clothes. I hang everything to dry and I live in the world's most northern rainforest. I just replaced a couple of my workshirts this winter and one was from 1984, but I admit that is an outlier as that thing was government issued when I worked at a jail and was like wearing plywood for the first 10 years. Also I find the time spent hanging the laundry is offset by the fact the clothes are easier to fold afterward.

I don't think I've had to retire much clothing due to wear from a dryer... if you hang everything to dry, what's your baseline for lasting "much longer", given you aren't drying clothes in a dryer?
The time spent folding clothes is offset by how much softer and more pleasant to touch they are versus line-dried clothes

 

[nakedfrog]

Then don't buy a gas powered car unless you still desire to be driving one for however long you intend to own the car.

Um, okay, I guess? I was just making a statement that I think a major purchase like a vehicle should have a longer expected lifespan than 10 years.

 

[woolfe9998]

Um, okay, I guess? I was just making a statement that I think a major purchase like a vehicle should have a longer expected lifespan than 10 years.

And I was discussing the need to switch to EV's. But your opinion on how long one should own a car is...duly noted?

 

[nakedfrog]

And I was discussing the need to switch to EV's. But your opinion on how long one should own a car is...duly noted?

You did, yes, and then you went on to say cars have an expected life span of 10 years, so I commented on that. Certainly I'd hope for even more years out of an EV, excepting the battery pack.
Also didn't say "you should own a car for more than 10 years", but rather "I expect cars to last more than 10 years" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Homerboy]

We just use a clothesline. I have never owned a dryer, seems like a waste of space and energy.

Sadly, I can't hang my clothes outside for about 7 months of the year in WI

 

[Tsinni Dave]

I don't think I've had to retire much clothing due to wear from a dryer... if you hang everything to dry, what's your baseline for lasting "much longer", given you aren't drying clothes in a dryer?
The time spent folding clothes is offset by how much softer and more pleasant to touch they are versus line-dried clothes

Per "USA Today":
Using a machine dryer wears clothes fast, thanks to the increase in friction and heat. Washing your clothes and then drying them on a clothes drying rack or outdoor clothesline minimizes that impact.

Air-drying also avoids static cling, eliminating the need for dryer balls or dryer sheets.
Your favorite apparel pieces will thank you for keeping their color, shape, and texture intact longer.

Laundry instructions exist for a reason. If you wear expensive, delicate, or irreplaceable clothing, it pays to read their tags. If an item should be hand washed or run on the delicate cycle, you shouldn’t put it in the dryer. And, if you’re concerned about fit, it’s best to let those clothes air-dry. If an item should be hand washed or run on the delicate cycle, you shouldn’t put it in the dryer, because it can shrink.

If your life is stain-prone (i.e. kids, pets, messy work) air-drying gives you the option to continue a stain removal process. Stains set when they’re placed in the dryer at a high temperature, and it’s pretty easy to miss stains on clothing when you’re transferring them from the washer. So you might find out too late that a stubborn mustard splotch is still there. If you air-dry a stained item, you can continue to treat the stain and wash the item until it’s removed.

Air-drying your clothes doesn’t use any electricity or gas at all.

 

[woolfe9998]

You did, yes, and then you went on to say cars have an expected life span of 10 years, so I commented on that. Certainly I'd hope for even more years out of an EV, excepting the battery pack.
Also didn't say "you should own a car for more than 10 years", but rather "I expect cars to last more than 10 years" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, regardless of how long one should own a car, average duration of car ownership is 8 years, so my statement of 10 years was actually more than it currently is on average. So far as how many years they last, that depends on many things, chief among them how many miles per year you put on them.

FYI my Prius is 15 years old and has 140K miles on it. But it refuses to die. It will never die. So I'm ditching it some time this year because I want to be driving something that emits no carbon.

 

[hal2kilo]

Clothes last much longer without a dryer - the lint in the lint filter used to be your clothes. I hang everything to dry and I live in the world's most northern rainforest. I just replaced a couple of my workshirts this winter and one was from 1984, but I admit that is an outlier as that thing was government issued when I worked at a jail and was like wearing plywood for the first 10 years. Also I find the time spent hanging the laundry is offset by the fact the clothes are easier to fold afterward.

I will agree, that nothing smells fresher than clothes hung on a line, outside. No scented wax towel required.

 

[pmv]

We just use a clothesline. I have never owned a dryer, seems like a waste of space and energy.

Feels like it's more time efficient to toss everything in the dryer and walk away than it is to hang up a bunch of laundry on a clothesline.

But the poster referred to 'space and energy'. There's a trade-off involved between those two things and 'time', and individuals will have different priorities.

 

[nakedfrog]

But the poster referred to 'space and energy'. There's a trade-off involved between those two things and 'time', and individuals will have different priorities.

The space thing seems like it would make more sense in a city apartment.
But either way, in the end clothes from a dryer feel much better than air-dried clothes (at least in my experience) so that's enough reason for me to prefer them.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Sadly, I can't hang my clothes outside for about 7 months of the year in WI

Frozen technically isn't wet...

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I just want one of them to be level.

I always make them level. I know how to do this. When they are cold you rotate them until the notches align and they just kind of fall into place, nice and level.

My wife, however, has mastered the skill of unintentionally making them not level. She doesn't do this on purpose. She has NO IDEA they aren't level or that what she is doing makes them not level. I don't know how she does it. She doesn't know how she does it. But she does it. Consistently enough that on any given evening, they are unlevel. She doesn't even use them every day, yet daily they are off. It is mildly infuriating.

Plot twist: maybe it's something I'm doing.