Denny's to impose 5% Obamacare surcharge

[mikeymikec]

That article reminds me of this:

http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2012/11/13/sore-loser/

 

[charrison]

My fear is that this entire nation is going to end up like California, politically, economically, etc. What a scary world.

Well California now is completely run by democrats now, we will see how things end over there.

 

[Pens1566]

I personally don't need to show you work, I have actuals to back up this data. We just had our annual enrollment for 2013, and my health insurance premiums increased by 36.5% ($2,550) over 2012. With the company stating that raises for 2013 are going to be 3%, my raise won't cover the health insurance increase.

And that is antecdotal. Probably because you had shitty coverage that didn't meet the requirements of the new exchanges. Mine barely budged, but I have "gold plated" coverage that exceeded the requirements.

 

[jackstar7]

The 5% covers fine for not providing insurance from what I gather.

Barebones HSA family coverage will cost around 6k/year. IF the govt requires "better" coverage than that, it will cost even more.

What the hell are you talking about? This is a thread about a business passing on the costs of employee healthcare to the patrons (not weird) and then thinking it's a good business practice to tell the patrons why their service is slightly more costly. I'm saying the costs lead to viable benefits for the business.

If you are talking about the individual mandate, that's a different topic.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

^^above^^ I'd give the man tons of credit if he did this 5 years ago. Simply put a 5% surcharge on your crap & explain its hard not to justify a 5% increase to insure your employees.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Can you elaborate on what you see as the good?

Continuation of insurance. Reduction of (don't know for sure if it eliminates) preexisting condition denials. That's the good and there may be other things. I haven't time to give justice to the subject, but I have more about health care reform, which we desperately need.

 

[jackstar7]

Continuation of insurance. Reduction of (don't know for sure if it eliminates) preexisting condition denials. That's the good and there may be other things. I haven't time to give justice to the subject, but I have more about health care reform, which we desperately need.

And do you see a means to get those sorts of reforms without a mandate for coverage? Would you prefer a single-payer option? Or some kind of profit cap on insurance companies?

 

[techs]

Well California now is completely run by democrats now, we will see how things end over there.

Actually that may be very good thing. California has been screwed over royally by Reagan, Prop. 13, Pete Wilson, etc. They need to sweep out all the right wing and left wing bullshit and start fresh and it takes a supermajority to do it.

Governor Jerry Brown seems to have grown this time around and has been pushing a very middle of the road agenda.

 

[charrison]

What the hell are you talking about? This is a thread about a business passing on the costs of employee healthcare to the patrons (not weird) and then thinking it's a good business practice to tell the patrons why their service is slightly more costly. I'm saying the costs lead to viable benefits for the business.

If you are talking about the individual mandate, that's a different topic.

Cost. The penalty is cheaper than the insurance. The insurance would require a bigger charge. How much b business will be lost with a bigger increase? These increases do not occur in a vacuum.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Ten million more restaurant workers are going to have health care? And it only costs an extra 50 cents per meal? That's pretty awesome.

Plus I no longer have to pay for their emergency room visits out of my health care? Double awesome.

Knowing the people who handle my food have health care? Priceless.

Well I don't know about you . But if me and wife go out to eat which we do 2 times a week . The meal comes to over $40. so add 5% thats $2 more than the $6 dollar tip and were at $48 dollars for we 2 to eat that meal . Thats exceptable to me . But I don't believe 5% will cover the obummer care cost . This will effect all gas stations also . All mom and pop stores . Ect. Ect/ Ect . We will end up paying about $12000 more in incurred cost . Thats a direct result of obummer care . What a bunch of demwits

 

[Aikouka]

Being a no-skill single mother is pretty much incompatible with reality.

If I remember correctly from my Sociology 101 class in college, it was Max Weber who said (it's been nearly a decade, so this is with extensive paraphrasing), "I like the poor. I need someone to clean my streets."

At an initial glance, this guy probably comes across as a bit of a crass individual, but if you take off your politically correct blinders, I think there's a strong point made here. Ultimately, I don't think anyone will disagree that there are jobs in our society that simply do not and will never pay a lot of money: cleaning streets, serving meals at Denny's, etc. So, as much as people like to demonize the lower class, they do serve a vital purpose: doing the low-end, menial jobs for low wages. You can't simply raise their wages or else you're raising the bottom end for everyone, which just raises the basic costs of living (food and board). So, you've got a choice... either let the people that perform your basic, menial services live in terrible conditions, or else the higher tiers of society provide extra money (through taxes) to supplement their low wages. Like it or not, unless you want to switch to Communism eek: the dreaded C-word!), you need social stratification.

 

[etrigan420]

Well I don't know about you . But if me and wife go out to eat which we do 2 times a week . The meal comes to over $40. so add 5% thats $2 more than the $6 dollar tip and were at $48 dollars for we 2 to eat that meal . Thats exceptable to me . But I don't believe 5% will cover the obummer care cost . This will effect all gas stations also . All mom and pop stores . Ect. Ect/ Ect . We will end up paying about $12000 more in incurred cost . Thats a direct result of obummer care . What a bunch of demwits

So that $48 meal is now going to cost you $12,048?

Yeah, I'd be super pissed too...probably to the point where my posts would be incoherent and read like the ramblings of a chronic heroin abuser in need of detox. :whiste:

 

[Nemesis 1]

So that $48 meal is now going to cost you $12,048?

Yeah, I'd be super pissed too...probably to the point where my posts would be incoherent and read like the ramblings of a chronic heroin abuser in need of detox. :whiste:

This is the only thing demwits are good at , What a feat !lol

 

[nehalem256]

If I remember correctly from my Sociology 101 class in college, it was Max Weber who said (it's been nearly a decade, so this is with extensive paraphrasing), "I like the poor. I need someone to clean my streets."

At an initial glance, this guy probably comes across as a bit of a crass individual, but if you take off your politically correct blinders, I think there's a strong point made here. Ultimately, I don't think anyone will disagree that there are jobs in our society that simply do not and will never pay a lot of money: cleaning streets, serving meals at Denny's, etc. So, as much as people like to demonize the lower class, they do serve a vital purpose: doing the low-end, menial jobs for low wages. You can't simply raise their wages or else you're raising the bottom end for everyone, which just raises the basic costs of living (food and board). So, you've got a choice... either let the people that perform your basic, menial services live in terrible conditions, or else the higher tiers of society provide extra money (through taxes) to supplement their low wages. Like it or not, unless you want to switch to Communism eek: the dreaded C-word!), you need social stratification.

Or the woman could get a husband. Which provides obvious benefits to the child and woman.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Spoeaking of heroin . Now that USA is in control of its flow . The usage is way up . A few users were my wife works on night shift . We been hearing reports of it and dealing in the parking lot . Last night they were busted . 2 blacks 3 hispanics 1 white. ALL demwits

 

[blankslate]

Well I don't know about you . But if me and wife go out to eat which we do 2 times a week . The meal comes to over $40. so add 5% thats $2 more than the $6 dollar tip and were at $48 dollars for we 2 to eat that meal . Thats exceptable to me . But I don't believe 5% will cover the obummer care cost . This will effect all gas stations also . All mom and pop stores . Ect. Ect/ Ect . We will end up paying about $12000 more in incurred cost . Thats a direct result of obummer care . What a bunch of demwits

Because having more bankruptcies due to medical bills that can't be afforded because premiums were to high for some people to get medical coverage is more desirable.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/05/bankruptcy.medical.bills/

This year, an estimated 1.5 million Americans will declare bankruptcy. Many people may chalk up that misfortune to overspending or a lavish lifestyle, but a new study suggests that more than 60 percent of people who go bankrupt are actually capsized by medical bills.

Not to mention the thousands who die as a direct result of not having medical care... either due to prohibitive costs or pre-existing conditions.

The above two situations will become less common.

Additionally it is not as if Denny's is being put at a comparative disadvantage to their competitors. Every one who competes with them for dining customers at their level (as in being a national chain of restaurants) will be affected by the ACA in the same way as they are.

 

[sigurros81]

Spoeaking of heroin . Now that USA is in control of its flow . The usage is way up . A few users were my wife works on night shift . We been hearing reports of it and dealing in the parking lot . Last night they were busted . 2 blacks 3 hispanics 1 white. ALL demwits

Because you said that heroin usage is way up, I have no choice to believe you, especially when your statement is backed by your own personal anecdote.

How can people be this idiotic...

 

[Nemesis 1]

If I remember correctly from my Sociology 101 class in college, it was Max Weber who said (it's been nearly a decade, so this is with extensive paraphrasing), "I like the poor. I need someone to clean my streets."

At an initial glance, this guy probably comes across as a bit of a crass individual, but if you take off your politically correct blinders, I think there's a strong point made here. Ultimately, I don't think anyone will disagree that there are jobs in our society that simply do not and will never pay a lot of money: cleaning streets, serving meals at Denny's, etc. So, as much as people like to demonize the lower class, they do serve a vital purpose: doing the low-end, menial jobs for low wages. You can't simply raise their wages or else you're raising the bottom end for everyone, which just raises the basic costs of living (food and board). So, you've got a choice... either let the people that perform your basic, menial services live in terrible conditions, or else the higher tiers of society provide extra money (through taxes) to supplement their low wages. Like it or not, unless you want to switch to Communism eek: the dreaded C-word!), you need social stratification.

Thats my whole point . Demwits are liars and theives . They for raising everones standards except thows who need it the most . Demwits have to get off their high horse . You can't be both . You say you are but as the gentleman I quoted stated things don't work well if we help the most needy. Go into any SS office in the country stay there all day long and observe . Table servers are entitled to way better wages than these lazy tit feeders and than when you look at benefits its so over the top war is the only way it will be resolved

 

[waterjug]

Honestly, he's paying more for his employees healthcare now as a result of Obamacare. Where do you think that money is going to come from? He makes a point in the article that the average restaurant will have $175,000 in additional costs now on account of this, and that most of their restaurants don't net that much in profit per year. So it's a choice between A) shuttering their locations and EVERYONE losing their jobs or B) Cutting hours & raising prices.

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Obamacare, the fact that it's going to cost employers more, and thus the prices to consumers are going to increase, shouldn't be getting debated. It's going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with that. If some item in a company's supply chain suddenly increased in price, that price gets passed on to the consumer. This is no different. If you support Obamacare, then you can't turn around and complain about slightly higher prices.

 

[openwheel]

easy. I don't eat at Denny's anyway. Crap food.

Stop the scare tactics. It doesn't work on people who have common sense.

Our health care system is too pricey and broken. Deal with it.

 

[Ausm]

As well as a 35% increase in premiums in two years (Jan 2012 17% increase, Jan 2013 18% increase).

Please show us the data on this especially since the Bill won't be implemented until 2014.

 

[child of wonder]

I'm surprised Spidey is still around. When I heard on the news someone had killed himself because Obama won I just assumed it was him.

 

[Ausm]

Spoeaking of heroin . Now that USA is in control of its flow . The usage is way up . A few users were my wife works on night shift . We been hearing reports of it and dealing in the parking lot . Last night they were busted . 2 blacks 3 hispanics 1 white. ALL demwits

Does she work at Dairy Queen?

 

[sigurros81]

Honestly, he's paying more for his employees healthcare now as a result of Obamacare. Where do you think that money is going to come from? He makes a point in the article that the average restaurant will have $175,000 in additional costs now on account of this, and that most of their restaurants don't net that much in profit per year. So it's a choice between A) shuttering their locations and EVERYONE losing their jobs or B) Cutting hours & raising prices.

Where are you getting this? A restaurant, especially a popular chained one like BWW or Hooters net this much in a month. A restaurant can make a gross profit of about 200k in a weekend, especially if it's something big like The Superbowl.

 

[CPA]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/john-metz-hurricane-grill-wings-dennys_n_2122412.html



why not just increase menu prices by 5%? :\

Transparency.

if he just raised prices, the leftists on this board would be screaming "Greed!". Now he's showing the world why he's raising prices.