Originally posted by: Genx87
At least you can admit you are a leech. Your friend BBond is still in denial
:music:Get ready because here it comes:music:
Hey, I see why you like to troll, it's kinda fun to gloat over others injustices, isn't it.
:music:Get ready because here it comes:music:
Hey, I see why you like to troll, it's kinda fun to gloat over others injustices, isn't it.
StageLeft
No Lifer
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What's wrong with my attitude? Is it really surprising that i resent covering your lack of forsight and planning for your future? I've been doing it since I was 21. It's not brain surgery. What's your excuse? Had to have that nice car? Had to have those vacations? The TV? I suppose there's one silver lining and that is that even with my having to cover your lack of planning I'll still have a much richer retirement, because luck favours the prepared.
That is funny considering both of us are ready to drop our SS payments and let people who qualify as leeches recieve them. Your stance is rather odd if you think about it. You are willing to keep the status quo and let the rich repubs to continue to collect from a system they dont need to.
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Yes, that's essentially what I'm saying. Perhaps 1EZduzit doesn't need SS either, but now that he's so old he doesn't have much more in the way of payments to make he wants to get more money from the system...of course most people are not even talking about any payment decreases for people after a certain current age.
Yeah basic human greed always seems to rear its head at some point. I findit funny the liberal in this conversation is the one doing it hehe.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Surprised you would part with any money ya greedy leech.
It doesn't happen often, so you better take it while the getting's good.
Large corporations and the very wealthy are no longer paying their fair share of taxes. That means the ordinairy American is now paying taxes for large corporations and the wealthy.
Why are you trying to get something for free? That doesn't seem like playing fair, to me. :disgust:
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
The only proof of this is when you compare the % of the pie the rich are paying in compared to the rest of America. It actually dropped to 67% from 69% 4 years ago.
OMG that 2% of the population isnt paying their fair share anymore!
If they were paying their fair share then that 2% would have paid in 2% of the income tax revenues.
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
What part of the govt infrastructure does a rich person use more than some poor guy on welfare?
Spike
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I guess I just don't get it, I thought that when they cut taxes they cut a semi-equal percentage along the whole income spectrum. IE, If I save 1% due to cut taxes that would be x dollars but as a middle-class earner, the upper-classes 1% would be a substantially large amount, even though it is the same %.
I actually really like the idea of either giving up my SS so I can keep more of the money for investing in my own 401(k) and stock portfolio or doing the whole privatized accounts. You have to spend money to make it better so we would be spending it now rather than later.
Dunno if I am making any sense, that darn luch messed with my system...
-spike
I actually really like the idea of either giving up my SS so I can keep more of the money for investing in my own 401(k) and stock portfolio or doing the whole privatized accounts. You have to spend money to make it better so we would be spending it now rather than later.
Dunno if I am making any sense, that darn luch messed with my system...
-spike
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
The rich are paying more, not less. They are responsable for a very large percentage of income taxes paid.
So what tax rate do you think would be fair for the rich, and what would you classify as rich?
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
The rich are paying more, not less. They are responsable for a very large percentage of income taxes paid.
So what tax rate do you think would be fair for the rich, and what would you classify as rich?
That depends on what you think a person who can't afford a IRA, or to send his kids to college should pay in taxes. It's all subjective, isn't it.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
The rich are paying more, not less. They are responsable for a very large percentage of income taxes paid.
So what tax rate do you think would be fair for the rich, and what would you classify as rich?
That depends on what you think a person who can't afford a IRA, or to send his kids to college should pay in taxes. It's all subjective, isn't it.
Given that the bottom 50% of the population pays less than 4% of the income taxs, those folks are not paying much if any in federal taxes.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
The rich are paying more, not less. They are responsable for a very large percentage of income taxes paid.
So what tax rate do you think would be fair for the rich, and what would you classify as rich?
That depends on what you think a person who can't afford a IRA, or to send his kids to college should pay in taxes. It's all subjective, isn't it.
Given that the bottom 50% of the population pays less than 4% of the income taxs, those folks are not paying much if any in federal taxes.
Well, someone has to finance the goverment, I guess that only leaves teh rich. You can piss and moan about it all you want, but you gotta make money to pay taxes. As more and more of the wealth ends up in the hands of the wealthy, they're just going to have to pay more taxes. The bottom 50% just can't afford it and the goverment knows it.
Of course, that won't stop you from whining about it though, will it.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Ayup, and the poor and the middle class, my customers, are going to pay the price.
Only in America.
When the Government needs more money to pay for the things promised to its good citizens, here is the solution.
Raise tax rates on the Rich, the poor and middle class foot the bill, and THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
Who was it that came up with this Idea?
The rich have an obligation to pay more taxes (as a percentage of income), because they make far greater use of government-funded infrastructure than the ordinairy American (or Australian, British citizen, etc). This is why we have a progressive taxation system -- to ensure that the wealthy pay a fair tax rate, that is in proportion to the benefit they gain from tax-funded infrastructure.
The rich in the USA are paying less in tax than they have for decades. There is room to return tax rates for the wealthy to sane levels.
The rich are paying more, not less. They are responsable for a very large percentage of income taxes paid.
So what tax rate do you think would be fair for the rich, and what would you classify as rich?
That depends on what you think a person who can't afford a IRA, or to send his kids to college should pay in taxes. It's all subjective, isn't it.
Given that the bottom 50% of the population pays less than 4% of the income taxs, those folks are not paying much if any in federal taxes.
Well, someone has to finance the goverment, I guess that only leaves teh rich. You can piss and moan about it all you want, but you gotta make money to pay taxes. As more and more of the wealth ends up in the hands of the wealthy, they're just going to have to pay more taxes. The bottom 50% just can't afford it and the goverment knows it.
Of course, that won't stop you from whining about it though, will it.
IT would not matter the taxing scheme, the rich are going pay more. However, since the poor pay little in taxes, they are going to continue to vote themselves the treasury...
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