Dems didn't lose white men primarily because of race, but because Dems don't offer them anything

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GettyRoad

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Whom do you think controls over 90% of the wealth in this county?

Hint, it aint people like me. Thats my point. White people should be last on the aggrieved train.
Shouldn't poor and middle class whites be angry, what stake do they have that the rich whites have?
 

HomerJS

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Shouldn't poor and middle class whites be angry, what stake do they have that the rich whites have?
They should be angry at the people who control the wealth. Instead they get upset at people like Obama.

They keep voting for tax cuts for the people who already control the wealth.

So tell me again where the problem lies?
 
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You’re obsessed with race. It’s weird.

Race is a big issue indeed. This guy is just stupid about it, but not weird. Lots of people think like him. And they are MAGA. They literally think white straight men are the most persecuted demographic in this country.

Except the only reasons white men are racist has nothing to do with Democrats not trying to do good things for them, it's that the Republican party is just really good at leveraging that racism. No racism, the GQP party would be quite a bit smaller.
 
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Race is a big issue indeed. This guy is just stupid about it, but not weird. Lots of people think like him. And they are MAGA. They literally think white straight men are the most persecuted demographic in this country.

Except the only reasons white men are racist has nothing to do with Democrats not trying to do good things for them, it's that the Republican party is just really good at leveraging that racism. No racism, the GQP party would be quite a bit smaller.
I am not MAGA, never have, never will.

I don't believe white men are oppressed or the most persecuted. They aren't. I am just saying that white men are tired of being blamed for everything and don't care or want to hear about people blaming them for everything. Stop believing that every white male is evil or inherently evil. This is what is making young white men grow into Republicans, even those that go to diverse high schools and colleges.
 
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MrSquished

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I am not MAGA, never have, never will.

I don't believe white men are oppressed or the most persecuted. They aren't. I am just saying that white men are tired of being blamed for everything and don't care or want to hear about people blaming them for everything. Stop believing that every white male is evil or inherently evil. This is what is making young white men grow into Republicans, even those that go to diverse high schools and colleges.

You say you are not MAGA and then you spout MAGA nonsense verbatim. You are fucking deranged.
 
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HomerJS

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I am not MAGA, never have, never will.

I don't believe white men are oppressed or the most persecuted. They aren't. I am just saying that white men are tired of being blamed for everything and don't care or want to hear about people blaming them for everything. Stop believing that every white male is evil or inherently evil. This is what is making young white men grow into Republicans, even those that go to diverse high schools and colleges.
I asked you this before and I’ll ask it again. Name one prominent Democrat that blames white men for everything. I’ll answer for you it’s bullshit. Nobody is making that claim.

Reality, that is a strawman created by Republicans as a retort to doing anything about racism. Just like they claim if you stop talking about it, it will magically go away.

Meanwhile Republicans are doing everything they can to make things worse. Like the racist gerrymandering where they were busted in multiple courts. Even Alabama tried to defy SCOTUS and refused to create the second minority district.
 
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Meghan54

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Estrada is one of the best actors in the world, he is in telenovelas, etc. He's huge.
Lowe is big too, he is on 911, a cop show, so obviously he's gonna take offense to Kaepernick.
Verlander and Upton are seen as American patriots, they don't want politics in baseball. Just play the game. Baseball is seen as a patriotic, old school sport. The likes of Kaepernick are not welcome there. Verlander made it specifically clear, and his wife, who goes to games as well.

It's not shut up and dribble, but it's more like, what can white fans do about it? Do you notice hockey doesn't have this problem?
Estrada was a sidekick (who played a stereotypical hyper-excitable, hyper-macho Latino, needing tempering by the white male lead) on one cop show decades ago, only to disappear from public view except for the occasional infomercial and smarmy rom-coms and carbon copy adventure films.

He’s not even close to being the best Latino/Spanish actor.

Thx for the laugh tho
 
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fskimospy

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Yeah this thread has nothing to do with race! Let's talk about housing, right? Its weird to complain about people talking about race in a thread that explicitly is about race in the title.
He talks about race constantly and in all contexts. Have you not been paying attention?

But yes, housing is good to talk about as it’s the primary public policy challenge of our time. Glad you’re on board!
 
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dank69

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I am not MAGA, never have, never will.

I don't believe white men are oppressed or the most persecuted. They aren't. I am just saying that white men are tired of being blamed for everything and don't care or want to hear about people blaming them for everything. Stop believing that every white male is evil or inherently evil. This is what is making young white men grow into Republicans, even those that go to diverse high schools and colleges.
The only thing they are blamed for regularly is voting Republican. Stop voting Republican and you'll stop getting blamed for voting Republican.

Take BLM for example. You say that is blaming white men when it was never about white men. It was always about cops and the entire justice system, but conservative media tells you constantly that it is about blaming white men. You believe it because you like the message. You like playing the victim. Conservative media knows this and takes advantage of you so they can secure more tax cuts for themselves and deregulation while squeezing us all.
 
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The only thing they are blamed for regularly is voting Republican. Stop voting Republican and you'll stop getting blamed for voting Republican.

Take BLM for example. You say that is blaming white men when it was never about white men. It was always about cops and the entire justice system, but conservative media tells you constantly that it is about blaming white men. You believe it because you like the message. You like playing the victim. Conservative media knows this and takes advantage of you so they can secure more tax cuts for themselves and deregulation while squeezing us all.
They're blamed for being all racist, a big generalization itself.....


 
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HomerJS

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They're blamed for being all racist, a big generalization itself.....


You found ONE person, nobody knows and try to claim, "Y'all call all white people racist"?

Try again. I will ask one more time, find me one prominent Democrat that claims all white people are racist.

I will agree on one thing, in order for the scourge of racism to be mitigated in this country white people will have to act.
 
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You found ONE person, nobody knows and try to claim, "Y'all call all white people racist"?

Try again. I will ask one more time, find me one prominent Democrat that claims all white people are racist.

I will agree on one thing, in order for the scourge of racism to be mitigated in this country white people will have to act.
All white people? Including the ones unbothered and just living/don't want anything to do with this stuff, etc.?

Or the politicians/police commissioners/judges implementing vestiges of racism still left?
 

Amol S.

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They're blamed for being all racist, a big generalization itself.....


Roflamo, I just looked at the name of the source and can tell you right away, you are looking at too much opinionated news. The first one is from a website that allows anyone to create a blog. You are citing a blog as a news source?
The second website is known to be a website run by someone who is known to complain about non-existent problems.
 
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All white people? Including the ones unbothered and just living/don't want anything to do with this stuff, etc.?

Or the politicians/police commissioners/judges implementing vestiges of racism still left?
I have a question for you, if you think the Democrat Party is crazy, name one Democrat who was in a position of power in 2020, that came out to support Donald Trump's claim of election fraud in 2020.
 

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Whom do you think controls over 90% of the wealth in this county?

Hint, it aint people like me. Thats my point. White people should be last on the aggrieved train.
I dont think it works like that, sins of the father is not sins of the son and all that. If you got a bunch of people that got nothing you aint got whites with nothing and blacks with nothing, you got peeps with nothing. Trying to explain to a white peep that got nothing that this is not his train to get on? Good luck with that.
 
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I have a question for you, if you think the Democrat Party is crazy, name one Democrat who was in a position of power in 2020, that came out to support Donald Trump's claim of election fraud in 2020.
None, because Joe Biden legally won the 2020 election.
 

dank69

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They're blamed for being all racist, a big generalization itself.....


Just because you can find things on the internet doesn't mean everybody reads that shit.