Democrats Underperforming with Hispanic voters

[darkswordsman17]

OP, I'm not sure why you're focused on if stopping the concentration camps has an impact on hispanic voters. Guess all the white people marching and even evangelicals calling it out as repugnant is something you don't give a shit about? Talk about propaganda.

so many assertions, so little knowledge, so much drama

That does indeed perfectly describe you. As usual, you conservative dumbfucks cast aspersions about others that you're the living embodiment of.

 

[fskimospy]

for the first time in a long time, Congress is at least partially performing its oversight duties. So I'll go with that for now.

It really isn’t in any meaningful way. For one example out of hundreds we know for a fact that foreign companies were essentially bribing Trump’s personal lawyer. To any reasonable and objective person the next logical step is to ask ‘if they were bribing one of the president’s close associates, who else might they have been bribing?’ The amount of time Congress has spent investigating this? Zero minutes. Scott Pruitt had a lot of scandals as long as your arm. Amount of time spent investigating his corruption? Zero minutes.

No matter what policies you prefer it is enormously better for the entire country that the Democrats control at least one house of Congress so that someone interested in overseeing executive branch conduct can actually do so. The republicans have shown they have no interest in investigating widespread corruption so now it’s time for someone else to.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

It may come as a shocker to a lot people not familiar with Hispanic culture, but there is a large portion of them that are more conservative in ideology than most republicans. My family back in Mexico are all hyper conservative and very religious, having grown up in Hispanic and Latino churches most of my life there is a sizable voter block of Republican voting Hispanics, and that group includes lots of former illegal immigrants. From my experience they don't vote that way because of political ideology, but mostly moral and religious reasons e.g; anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ rights, and a few other hot topics.

 

[SP33Demon]

The great illusion cast by the GOP is that middle class tax cuts can somehow compensate for the enormous loss of national income share to the financial elite. When your share falls by a third & your federal tax rate falls from 6% to 3% you're still getting screwed.

The problem with your argument is that anyone with more than them = "financial elite". Why shouldn't businesses get more when they're the ones employing everyone? They took the risk and extra work to employ other people, so they should get more than a normal person. Ask yourself - If I work for someone who owns a company, do they deserve to earn more than me because they are incurring more risk and work to manage a company? The logical answer is no, you don't. They should benefit more since they are the ones who pay your mortgage, electric/internet/phone bill, car insurance, etc.

Another problem with your "financial elite" term is that anyone who makes more than a liberal is instantly demonized against an imaginary bar of earning. For example, people in our country don't realize that if you make >$34,000 a year in the US, you are in the top 1% of the world's income. All the while screaming/kicking/whining about the top 1% of America and how it's unfair that they only make $34,000 and corporations make millions. It's hilarious to view this hypocrisy. Liberals will continually be trying to move their imaginary bar of who is oppressed and who is not, just as Russia did when they murdered 25,000,000 people in the name of equal outcomes for all. Anyone who wasn't homeless got murdered, and that is the end game of communistic socialism whether liberals realize it or not. Eventually they simply force people to do what they want to enforce their imaginary unequal bar of who is "oppressed", and if people don't agree, they will murder them for disagreeing as commie Russia did. Just as you're doing here, whining that you're oppressed while probably earning in the top 1% of the world's income.

 

[fskimospy]

The problem with your argument is that anyone with more than them = "financial elite". Why shouldn't businesses get more when they're the ones employing everyone? They took the risk and extra work to employ other people, so they should get more than a normal person. Ask yourself - If I work for someone who owns a company, do they deserve to earn more than me because they are incurring more risk and work to manage a company? The logical answer is no, you don't. They should benefit more since they are the ones who pay your mortgage, electric/internet/phone bill, car insurance, etc.

Another problem with your "financial elite" term is that anyone who makes more than a liberal is instantly demonized against an imaginary bar of earning. For example, people in our country don't realize that if you make >$34,000 a year in the US, you are in the top 1% of the world's income. All the while screaming/kicking/whining about the top 1% of America and how it's unfair that they only make $34,000 and corporations make millions. It's hilarious to view this hypocrisy. Liberals will continually be trying to move their imaginary bar of who is oppressed and who is not, just as Russia did when they murdered 25,000,000 people in the name of equal outcomes for all. Anyone who wasn't homeless got murdered, and that is the end game of communistic socialism whether liberals realize it or not. Eventually they simply force people to do what they want to enforce their imaginary unequal bar of who is "oppressed", and if people don't agree, they will murder them for disagreeing as commie Russia did. Just as you're doing here.

Hey dummy, earning $34k a year in America is meaningless in comparing to the rest of the world unless you’re using PPP dollars. Needless to say, after adjusting for PPP $34k does not place a household (or individual) in the top 1% of worldwide incomes.

For someone who claims to work in financing it is frankly unbelievable how little you know about how money works.

 

[SP33Demon]

It’s funny how you guys are desperately trying to find constituencies that might vote for your preferred candidate.

The generic ballot is around +7-8 democrat and special elections are somewhere around +15 democrat but hey, this article tells you something you want to hear.

This article tells us reality. You want to continue to ignore reality like in 2016, we get it. You're upset that Hispanics (who were supposed to embrace you!) aren't embracing your poison, it's ok to be upset. Eventually as every generation gets smarter than their parents, even more of the Dems' poisonous ideology will be revealed.

 

[fskimospy]

This article tells us reality. You want to continue to ignore reality like in 2016, we get it. You're upset that Hispanics (who were supposed to embrace you!) aren't embracing your poison, it's ok to be upset. Eventually as every generation gets smarter than their parents, even more of the Dems' poisonous ideology will be revealed.

Haha, color me totally shocked that whatever article tells you what you want to hear is ‘reality’. Durrrrr.

 

[cytg111]

The problem with your argument is that anyone with more than them = "financial elite". Why shouldn't businesses get more when they're the ones employing everyone? They took the risk and extra work to employ other people, so they should get more than a normal person. Ask yourself - If I work for someone who owns a company, do they deserve to earn more than me because they are incurring more risk and work to manage a company? The logical answer is no, you don't. They should benefit more since they are the ones who pay your mortgage, electric/internet/phone bill, car insurance, etc.

Another problem with your "financial elite" term is that anyone who makes more than a liberal is instantly demonized against an imaginary bar of earning. For example, people in our country don't realize that if you make >$34,000 a year in the US, you are in the top 1% of the world's income. All the while screaming/kicking/whining about the top 1% of America and how it's unfair that they only make $34,000 and corporations make millions. It's hilarious to view this hypocrisy. Liberals will continually be trying to move their imaginary bar of who is oppressed and who is not, just as Russia did when they murdered 25,000,000 people in the name of equal outcomes for all. Anyone who wasn't homeless got murdered, and that is the end game of communistic socialism whether liberals realize it or not. Eventually they simply force people to do what they want to enforce their imaginary unequal bar of who is "oppressed", and if people don't agree, they will murder them for disagreeing as commie Russia did. Just as you're doing here, whining that you're oppressed while probably earning in the top 1% of the world's income.

Nope nope nope nope. Your can shove "deserve" right up the rear end.
Whatever work is being done, the payback is to ensure the foundation that created the possibility for the company to begin with, the payback is to ensure that you have workers for your factories in 10, 20, 50 years from now too. If you just leech it all to yourself cause you got some fucked up definition of "deserve" and let your workers do double shifts just to live paycheck to paycheck, you are not putting back in what you should. It is like expecting record crops every year without any effort towards fertilizing and whatnot. It's stupid. And then you have to import the workforce from somewhere else, cause idiots with too much money to spend anyway.
It is SUCH an easy ecosystem to understand yet the field is still littered with FUCK YOU I GOT MINE assholes like yourself.

 

[SP33Demon]

Nope nope nope nope. Your can shove "deserve" right up the rear end.
Whatever work is being done, the payback is to ensure the foundation that created the possibility for the company to begin with, the payback is to ensure that you have workers for your factories in 10, 20, 50 years from now too. If you just leech it all to yourself cause you got some fucked up definition of "deserve" and let your workers do double shifts just to live paycheck to paycheck, you are not putting back in what you should. It is like expecting record crops every year without any effort towards fertilizing and whatnot. It's stupid. And then you have to import the workforce from somewhere else, cause idiots with too much money to spend anyway.
It is SUCH an easy ecosystem to understand yet the field is still littered with FUCK YOU I GOT MINE assholes like yourself.

Yeah ask the few people that I employ if I "leech it all to myself", nope. I am not successful without their services for my business so they are paid adequately. There is no equality crap, they know I earn more b/c I've incurred the risk to the run the company. They aren't complaining that I make more b/c they can go out and do the same exact thing I did - go apply for an LLC, pay the fees, recruit the people, buy the insurance, update all the documentation, do the taxes, etc. Anyone can do it, it's just that some people don't want to for whatever reason (e.g. time is limited by raising kids, they enjoy having more free time to vacation/netflix/whatever). Also remember that the worker has *voluntarily accepted my employment*. Even if they did do double shifts and worked paycheck to paycheck, nobody is forcing them to do that. There is no oppression - go find another job or start your own company or stop complaining. It's really that simple. If you don't like your circumstances, change them. Millions of people change their circumstances every day, if you are too weak or stupid to do it then that's not my problem. Don't sign on the dotted line to work for a company if you feel that they will oppress you and leave if they do.

In the least, the only thing that I would change are people getting raises (if performance warrants one) that are at least inflation adjusted for workers. If they're getting a nickel raise at 10 bucks/hr, that's not going to help anyone. But also keep in mind it depends on the workforce supply - how many other people are willing to take less who are just as skilled as you? If it's an industry where supply outstrips demand, then owners can be choosy and give small raises since there are 500 other people locally who would love to have that job. It just depends on the sector and the skills the worker is bringing to the table.

 

[Jhhnn]

So, uhh, how do you figure it would work out if everybody was a small businessman?

It wouldn't of course. Not everybody gets to do that. Capitalism is way, way bigger & more impersonal than that. We need answers that work better for the vast majority of Americans than any simplistic GOP bullshit that appeals to shallow thinkers.

 

[Indus]

Super easy to figure out why.

They are not socialist enough.

 

[umbrella39]

Yeah ask the few people that I employ...

Do you really think anyone considers your sock puppets as employees?

LMFAO

 

[Indus]

This article tells us reality. You want to continue to ignore reality like in 2016, we get it. You're upset that Hispanics (who were supposed to embrace you!) aren't embracing your poison, it's ok to be upset. Eventually as every generation gets smarter than their parents, even more of the Dems' poisonous ideology will be revealed.

LOL.. what poisonous ideology.

Sweden, Denmark, Germany have better healthcare, jobs, and life expectancy than us. And less people in poverty.

The only poison is you and your nazi friends.

 

[dphantom]

It really isn’t in any meaningful way. For one example out of hundreds we know for a fact that foreign companies were essentially bribing Trump’s personal lawyer. To any reasonable and objective person the next logical step is to ask ‘if they were bribing one of the president’s close associates, who else might they have been bribing?’ The amount of time Congress has spent investigating this? Zero minutes. Scott Pruitt had a lot of scandals as long as your arm. Amount of time spent investigating his corruption? Zero minutes.

No matter what policies you prefer it is enormously better for the entire country that the Democrats control at least one house of Congress so that someone interested in overseeing executive branch conduct can actually do so. The republicans have shown they have no interest in investigating widespread corruption so now it’s time for someone else to.

it really is in the most meaningful way possible.

The people decide who controls the legislative and executive. The people decided in 2016. The people will also decide in 2018.

 

[fskimospy]

it really is in the most meaningful way possible.

The people decide who controls the legislative and executive. The people decided in 2016. The people will also decide in 2018.

Exactly my point. Does any reasonable person think Congress is doing its job right now? We both know it isn’t.

Join the rest of us in demanding that government be held accountable. Stand with us against the incredible corruption. Help us restore our government.

 

[shortylickens]

"Reasonable" is not a requisite for voting.

 

[Vic]

Those who enter our or any other country outside the legally defined requirements are here illegally. Call them what they are. Never allow statists such as we find here control the language.

Statists? That's funny, because I would argue that the whole idea that a person can be legal or illegal based on which side of some government border they happen to be is one of the most extreme examples of Statism.

 

[uclaLabrat]

This talk about generic Hispanics voting one way or another is somewhat amusing, as the real story I think over the next two years will be the motivation and mobilization of Puerto Rican voters that have relocated stateside. I dont think they're going to look kindly on the current admin.

 

[Jhhnn]

Statists? That's funny, because I would argue that the whole idea that a person can be legal or illegal based on which side of some government border they happen be is one of the most extreme examples of Statism.

Careful there. He'll go into catatonic shock if he thinks about that too much. Sometimes righties just say things that sound good to each other. It doesn't need to actually make sense or be consistent.

 

[madoka]

Funny how Trump is often referred to as a Nazi, but the (Orthodox) Jews and Israelis love him.

 

[madoka]

OP, I'm not sure why you're focused on if stopping the concentration camps has an impact on hispanic voters.

 

[Jhhnn]

Funny how Trump is often referred to as a Nazi, but the (Orthodox) Jews and Israelis love him.

He's more accurately referred to as a fascist, like Bibi.

 

[Indus]

Funny how Trump is often referred to as a Nazi, but the (Orthodox) Jews and Israelis love him.

No not all israelis love him. It's more like just the right wing. And its just because he's a tool that fits their wants at the moment.

Kinda like Saddam was America's ally during the 80's. And Pakistan during the Bush years.

 

[madoka]

No not all israelis love him. It's more like just the right wing. And its just because he's a tool that fits their wants at the moment.

Read the headlines:

Poll: Israelis Love Trump
http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/israel-loves-trump.php

It’s official: Israelis love Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-israelis-love-trump/?utm_term=.93c6a51c3a99

Notes from Jerusalem: Everyone is in love with Donald Trump
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/05...ryone-in-israel-is-in-love-with-donald-trump/

Poll: Jewish Israelis Love Trump
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/14/israel-trump-embassy-jerusalem-poll-218368

 

[Indus]

Fake News lol.