Steeplerot
Lifer
- Mar 29, 2004
- 13,051
- 6
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"Your Emotions"
Your mommy told you this
And your daddy told you that
Always think like this
And never do that
You learned so many feelings
But what is there to that
Which are really yours
Or are you just a copycat
Your school told you this
And your church told you that
Memorize this
And don't you dare look at that
...
Just a tape recorder
Mimicking of the bores
You're so boring boring boring
Always tape machine recording
You're so boring boring boring
I've heard all this before
Planless and mindless
Scraps from anywhere
Bunch of used parts
From garbage pails everywhere
Frankenstein became a monster
Just like you
Your scars only show
When someone talks to you
You're so boring boring boring
Always tape machine recording
You're so boring boring boring
I've heard all this before
I've heard all this before
I've heard all this before
Your emotions make you a monster
Your emotions make you a monster
Your emotions make you a monster
Your emotions make you a monster
Your mommy told you this
And your daddy told you that
Always think like this
And never do that
You learned so many feelings
But what is there to that
Which are really yours
Or are you just a copycat
Your school told you this
And your church told you that
Memorize this
And don't you dare look at that
...
Just a tape recorder
Mimicking of the bores
You're so boring boring boring
Always tape machine recording
You're so boring boring boring
I've heard all this before
Planless and mindless
Scraps from anywhere
Bunch of used parts
From garbage pails everywhere
Frankenstein became a monster
Just like you
Your scars only show
When someone talks to you
You're so boring boring boring
Always tape machine recording
You're so boring boring boring
I've heard all this before
I've heard all this before
I've heard all this before
Your emotions make you a monster
Your emotions make you a monster
Your emotions make you a monster
Your emotions make you a monster
Some people are swayed more by logic and reason than jealousy and hatred.
How do you expect to gain converts to your cause when you can't answer a simple question?
Ah, very good, sometimes glimmers of inspiration come through here.
That is the cycle the U.S. used to have, now it's just select few amassing huge Kingdoms.
I don't expect to convert anyone, least of all you. Besides, why should I even let you put me in a discussion where I am on the defensive right out of the gate? On top of that, i've been up since 3:30 this morning and I'm just to pooped to pop.
Bingo, there is no "cause", that's only a Republican theocratic agenda for the U.S.
The rest of us hold America and the Constitution first.
Steeplerot
Lifer
- Mar 29, 2004
- 13,051
- 6
- 81
This is by far the saddest article I have read on the demise of the U.S. to date;
5-26-2005 GOP Tilting Balance Of Power to the Right
The campaign to prevent the Senate filibuster of the president's judicial nominations was simply the latest and most public example of similar transformations in Congress and the executive branch stretching back a decade.
The common theme is to consolidate influence in a small circle of Republicans and to marginalize dissenting voices that would try to impede a conservative agenda.
House Republicans, for instance, discarded the seniority system and limited the independence and prerogatives of committee chairmen. The result is a chamber effectively run by a handful of GOP leaders.
At the White House, Bush has tightened the reins on Cabinet members, centralizing the most important decisions among a tight group of West Wing loyalists. With the strong encouragement of Vice President Cheney, he has also moved to expand the amount of executive branch information that can be legally shielded from Congress, the courts and the public.
Bush created a top-down system in the White House much like the one his colleagues have in Congress. He has constructed what many scholars said amounts to a virtual oligarchy with Cheney, Karl Rove, Andrew H. Card Jr., Joshua Bolton, himself and only a few others setting policy, while he looks to Congress and the agencies mostly to promote and institute his policies.
This has coincided with a dramatic increase in overall government secrecy. In 1995, the government created about 3.6 million secrets. In 2004, there more than 15.5 million. The White House attributes the rise in information the public cannot see to the security threats in a post-Sept. 11, 2001, world.
But experts on government secrecy say it goes beyond protecting sensitive security documents, to creating new classes of information kept private and denying researchers access to documents from past presidents.
"We have never had this kind of control over information," said Allan J. Lichtman, a professor of history at American University. "It means policy is being made by a small clique without much public scrutiny."
Now, the Republicans, with the support of the White House, are looking to reshape the courts in their image.
Senate Republicans are weighing legislation to limit court authority.
At least Rip's true colors are showing. He's the fake Christian that worships money. The fake Christian right continues to show their disregards to human life in order to attain money. I hope they all rot in hell.
judasmachine
Diamond Member
- Sep 15, 2002
- 8,515
- 3
- 81
Tax the rich?!?!?
I propose we eat them to keep from starving, and burn their houses to stay warm. But then I'm not a democrat, they are just the left wing of the republican party as far as I'm concerned.
I propose we eat them to keep from starving, and burn their houses to stay warm. But then I'm not a democrat, they are just the left wing of the republican party as far as I'm concerned.
Wasn't there another group of red states that had the same way of running the country.
Wasn't is called the Politburo or the Supreme Soviet or something?
The simple answer is there is a difference between taxing the rich and prevented the small group of people from accumilating most of the wealth.
Amazing. I'm still waiting for an intelligent repsonse to my question.
Sadly, I don't think that I'm going to get one.
No reason, no logic, no vision - just hatred and petty jealousy.
And you wonder why Democratic power is waning?
Sadly, I don't think that I'm going to get one.
No reason, no logic, no vision - just hatred and petty jealousy.
And you wonder why Democratic power is waning?
Originally posted by: nick1985
well, how am i supposed to propose my idea?
PM?
Unfortunately, it won't last. People respond to trolling. That's why it's called trolling.
its odd that people feel this way when this republican administration is spending so much money that there will be little choice but to begin taxing people OR removing government services.
for example, removing the estate tax practically demands a future rasied tax for everyone else.
WhipperSnapper
Lifer
- Oct 30, 2004
- 11,442
- 32
- 91
Yes. Much of it could be based on a sense of injustice.
Mere jealousy and envy does not lead to hatred. However, if you believed that someone had engaged in activities that hurt you economically, then you might be able to hate them.
For example, many people dislike their employers and/or feel that former employers have done them injustice, which is very often true. Those employers tend to either be rich or owned by wealthy investors. Thus, such people who feel they have been victimized might come to despise the rich in that way, especially CEOs (and especially when they rob investors, such as the Enron executives).
Some people feel that the wealthy class is engaging in class warfare against the middle class, such as foreign outsourcing, which basically constitutes a wealth transfer from the middle class to the wealthy, or the employment of illegal aliens, which imposes costs (an externality) on the rest of society.
Some people perceive that the wealthy receive special favors from the government (if you came from a wealthy family you could have found ways to avoid being drafted for the Vietnam War).
Some people feel that well-to-do people often discriminate against those who have suffered bad luck through no fault of their own, which is often the case in employment situations. For example, if you ended up being unemployed or employed-out-of-field during the economic holocaust that was the Bush Recession, you might suffer employment discrimination at the hands of wealthy hiring partners who have their heads so far up their asses they just assume you would make a bad employee since you were unemployed in the field for so long.
Just some food for thought. You see, there could be much, much more to it than mere jealousy and envy. Some of it might even be rather legitimate.
umbrella39
Lifer
- Jun 11, 2004
- 13,816
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- 126
I will answer your question Riporin. I will put it in simple terms, and hopefully you will respond to my response.
Here is what I think about taxes, and why they should be raised back to previous levels (and yes the rich will start paying 38% again).
First, the government is being irresponsible fiscally. Tell me, from a pure business perspective, how can you reduce your income (cut taxes) and increase expenditures (Iraq War) and still say 'everything is ok'?
Second, this across the board cut, benefited the rich. Why? Because 3% of 10,000,000 is a hell of a lot more than 3% of 50,000. The administration states 'On average every American tax payer received 1300 dollars in tax returns based on the cuts'. This is false and here is a little analogy to explain that.
Bill Gates walks into a bar. On average, everyone is a billionaire in that bar, yet on average no one gets the benefit of being a billionaire. Get my point?
Finally, I am not against people wanting to be rich but I am against the government spending money it DOES NOT HAVE. Right now they don't. If the tax cuts were never made, there would be money for Iraq+++++++++++. But there isnt.
Hope this answers your question and I hope you extend the same courtesy of replying to my reply.
Well, the basic idea is that the very wealthy (and wealthy corporations) USE more tax-funded resources (such as the legal system, education, roads) and therefore should be required to put more BACK into the system.
For example:
* An overwhelming percentage of state and federal court time is devoted to corporate law. Businesses and corporations rely on a smoothly functioning court system to negotiate disputes and ensure contracts are upheld.
* The Securities and Exchange Commission and all the apparatus of the Commerce Department are mainly used by the wealthy.
* Companies depend on sound roads, railways and ports to transport their products.
* Companies benefit from an educated workforce, and the scientific and technological research that we have all paid for.
(points copied from the Rockridge Institute)
Everyone pays to maintain the above institutions, but the wealthiest citizens use these institutions more than the average citizen; it makes sense they pay accordingly. This is why all civilized countries, including the USA, have so-called progressive taxation systems where the wealthiest citzens and corporations pay a higher rate of tax. (Well, the theory is that wealthiest citizens pay a higher rate of tax -- in reality, this is often not the case).
This is an issue of basic fairness. I pay taxes which go to fund the court system, roads, schools. The wealthiest citizens use the court system far more than I ever will. They benefit from the roads far more than I ever will. They benefit from public education far more than I ever will. It's only fair that wealthier citizens be expected to pay higher rates of tax.
It's not about hate. It's about fairness.
And why are you trying to get something for nothing, by the way? You benefit from public infrastructure (roads, education, science research, the internet) and yet you're not prepared to pay for it? That seems like selfishness to me.
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