Democrats plotting Catholic Spring

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
rockyct

rockyct

Diamond Member
Jun 23, 2001
6,656
32
91
brycejones said:
OP it's obvious that sitting around without work is bad for your mental health. Get out, go volunteer in your community find something useful to do and soon.
Click to expand...
It's pretty sad that they've already given up on the election and are settling in four the next four years, with a good chance of it being eight years, of President Clinton and First Dude Bill.
 
M

Mike64

Platinum Member
Apr 22, 2011
2,108
101
91
As an aside, one wonders whether the OP is equally outraged by the hardcore "fundamentalist" Catholics who declaim the current and other recent Popes as "apostates" for their "bridge building" engagement with some other Christian churches (let alone non-Christian religious leaders)...:rolleyes:
 
MongGrel

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,466
3,067
121
Mike64 said:
As an aside, one wonders whether the OP is equally outraged by the hardcore "fundamentalist" Catholics who declaim the current and other recent Popes as "apostates" for their "bridge building" engagement with some other Christian churches (let alone non-Christian religious leaders)...:rolleyes:
Click to expand...

Most Catholics are just normal members of society, as are a lot of Muslims.

JFK was pretty popular in his day :)
 
M

Mike64

Platinum Member
Apr 22, 2011
2,108
101
91
MongGrel said:
Most Catholics are just normal members of society, as are a lot of Muslims.

JFK was pretty popular in his day :)
Click to expand...
I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the OP's outrage over what he considers "attempts to undermine" the RC Church, and whether he considers it equally outrageous to "undermine" its leadership on the ground that they're (already) being "too liberal", or whether he saves it only for those who want to see what he considers inappropriately "liberal" changes from current Church policy...

As for most Catholics being "normal members of society," I wasn't suggesting otherwise. In my experience, when "regular people" aren't being stirred up by some ranting lunatics or others, they seem to get along with each pretty well in general even when have they major differences of opinion about things they consider important.. But there are, seriously, groups of Catholics who consider the current Church leadership to be essentially heretical for what are apparently some rather significant departures from traditional positions on a number of fundamental theological subjects...

As another aside, as for JFK, yeah, he was, but that didn't stop some (not insignificant) Protestant Republicans of his day from arguing that he would owe his "true allegiance" to "Rome" instead of the US people and the Constitution...
 
Last edited:
MongGrel

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,466
3,067
121
Mike64 said:
I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the OP's outrage over what he considers "attempts to undermine" the RC Church, and whether he considers it equally outrageous to "undermine" it on the grounds that it's being "too liberal", or whether he saves it only for those who want to see what he considers inappropriately "liberal" changes in Church policy...

As for most Catholics being "normal members of society," I wasn't suggesting otherwise. In my experience, when "regular people" aren't being stirred up by some ranting lunatics or others, they seem to get along with each pretty well in general even when have they major differences of opinion about things they consider important.. But there are, seriously, groups of Catholics who consider the current Church leadership to be essentially heretical for what are apparently some rather significant departures from traditional positions on a number of fundamental theological subjects...

As another aside, as for JFK, yeah, he was, but that didn't stop some (not insignificant) Protestant Republicans of his day from arguing that he would owe his "true allegiance" to "Rome" instead of the US people and the Constitution...
Click to expand...

I'm sure there are.

A lot of things evolve over time, the Catholic Church is not in Spanish Inquisition mode these days.

It does seem many Muslims in the middle east still teach that, hence the current Isis/Daesh war of terror.

Intolerance with other people that do not share others view of how the world should be has been a major problem since civilization began, hopefully that will go away someday.

But Corporations seem to have been moving in for awhile to fill in a lot of gaps in the back ground in society a lot these days, everything is in flux globally atm.

Manipulating the environment you exist in has always been a major factor even getting out of bed in the morning, or whenever you get up. It still is a part of human evolution, the internet itself vastly expanded upon that.

But that's enough of my minor league philosophy :)
 
Zorba

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,613
11,255
136
Maverick177 said:
Can't believe a person who lied under oath is not in prison.
Click to expand...

Considering the number of lawsuits Trump has been involved with, and his inability to tell the truth about anything, I am sure he has lied under oath many times.
 
M

Maverick177

Senior member
Mar 11, 2016
411
70
91
Zorba said:
Considering the number of lawsuits Trump has been involved with, and his inability to tell the truth about anything, I am sure he has lied under oath many times.
Click to expand...

And ? you want to compare scandals between Trump and Shillary ?
 
Texashiker

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
brycejones said:
OP it's obvious that sitting around without work is bad for your mental health. Get out, go volunteer in your community find something useful to do and soon.
Click to expand...

Did I say I was sitting around? Nope.

I have plenty to keep me busy. Been working on building an anvil stand for the past two days. Been doing some bush hogging, clearing out to fence in a few acres,,,, etc.

I do not live in a neighborhood, I live in a rural area on a small farm.

If you would like to help me split firewood, come on.
 
Texashiker

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
Sheik Yerbouti said:
um, yea, gladly.
Click to expand...

With hillary we know what we are getting. More lies, more money for wall street and the big banks, and everyday working people will slip further into poverty.

If Donald holds true to just a few of his promises, the nation will be greatly improved.

The one thing either candidate can do to turn the economy around is end free trade. Trade has to be fair and balanced, not free.

Hillary refuses to address free trade, which her husband signed gatt and nafta into law.

Donald talks about free trade.
 
Texashiker

Texashiker

Lifer
Dec 18, 2010
18,811
198
106
Sheik Yerbouti said:
nope, not suckering into your void of stupidity, misinformation and moronic anecdotes. GO CUBS!
Click to expand...

A vote for hillary is a vote for the same establishment that has crashed our economy since the 1970s.

Voting for trump is a vote against the establishment and a vote for real change.
 
theeedude

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
35,787
6,197
126
Even Jason Ben Ghazi Chaffetz is not endorsing Trump over Hillary anymore, and he investigated Hillary for years.
Or Michael Chertoff of the original Whitewater fishing expedition, is endorsing Hillary.
 
Sheik Yerbouti

Sheik Yerbouti

Lifer
Feb 16, 2005
14,079
5,450
136
Maverick177 said:
Me first.

Shillary deleted 30,000 work related emails and lied about it under oath/
Click to expand...
ok, my turn?
A federal lawsuit by former Trump University students against the school’s founder, Donald J. Trump, will proceed toward trial, the judge in the case ruled on Tuesday.

In a written decision, Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel rejected a motion by Mr. Trump’s lawyers to dismiss the case, concluding that the aggrieved former students had raised a genuine question about whether Mr. Trump had “knowingly participated in a scheme to defraud.”
Click to expand...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/trump-university-case.html?_r=0

and by the way
The FBI found no evidence that the emails were deleted deliberately to avoid the subpoena or other requests. Clinton’s team requested for the emails to be deleted months before the subpoena came. They also argued that all the emails that would be relevant to the subpoena had already been turned over to the State Department.
Click to expand...
 
Homerboy

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
30,890
5,001
126
Texashiker said:
With hillary we know what we are getting. More lies, more money for wall street and the big banks, and everyday working people will slip further into poverty.

If Donald holds true to just a few of his promises, the nation will be greatly improved.

The one thing either candidate can do to turn the economy around is end free trade. Trade has to be fair and balanced, not free.

Hillary refuses to address free trade, which her husband signed gatt and nafta into law.

Donald talks about free trade.
Click to expand...


I'll bet you, with 100:1 odds that if Trump wins the White House, he will be the same with "More lies, more money for wall street and the big banks, and everyday working people will slip further into poverty."

He won't release his taxes letting us see exactly what business and foreign governments (or people with ties to foreign governments) he's involved with. And he won't put his businesses in a blind trust while he'd be in office. You think he's NOT going to try to pad his pocketbook? He's such "great business man" he'd be dumb not to.
 
M

Maverick177

Senior member
Mar 11, 2016
411
70
91
Sheik Yerbouti said:
ok, my turn?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/trump-university-case.html?_r=0

and by the way
Click to expand...

Absolutely pathetic reply.

For-profit Universitys are generally trash. People who enlist in these institution should have known better, and whether or not it's illegal then it's up to the judge. Personally I'd never or allow any family members to enroll in such schools.

Regarding Clinton emails, it is astounding that you ignored all the evidence leading up to the email debacle. It's amazing really.

Please dig in: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom