Democrats do it better

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: umbrella39
One, posting too damn much right wingers goes away, another surfaces to take his place. The circle of P&N.

He's overstating the facts, but there's nothing wrong with pointing this out. We had the same thing in Canada - a new government elected on a platform of accountability that has turned out to be anything but accountable.

What has the new government of Canada not been accountable about? Name three things.

Unelected cabinet ministers, taxing income trusts, and flip-flopping on funding environmental initiatives would be the first three that spring to mind.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Did you actually write that with a straight face?

This is exactly how I feel reading your posts. Nonsense backed up by nonsense.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: umbrella39
One, posting too damn much right wingers goes away, another surfaces to take his place. The circle of P&N.

He's overstating the facts, but there's nothing wrong with pointing this out. We had the same thing in Canada - a new government elected on a platform of accountability that has turned out to be anything but accountable.

What has the new government of Canada not been accountable about? Name three things.

Unelected cabinet ministers, taxing income trusts, and flip-flopping on funding environmental initiatives would be the first three that spring to mind.

I see one broken promise and two responses to public opinion; rather glad to see a government in place that doesn't get bullheaded and refuse to listen to what we the people want.

This in comparison with a government that stifled an inquiry into the deaths of dozens of Canadians by terrorists in order to curry their vote, allowed another terrorist group to fundraise in the nation to get their votes as well, bilked us taxpayers out of $100 million to reward old friends in Quebec, sent us to war in Afghanistan without any public debate, and has now recommitted us to the Kyoto Protocol after complete inaction on its goals for the past 12 years.

You call that the same old?

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: yllus
I see one broken promise and two responses to public opinion; rather glad to see a government in place that doesn't get bullheaded and refuse to listen to what we the people want.

This in comparison with a government that stifled an inquiry into the deaths of dozens of Canadians by terrorists in order to curry their vote, allowed another terrorist group to fundraise in the nation to get their votes as well, bilked us taxpayers out of $100 million to reward old friends in Quebec, sent us to war in Afghanistan without any public debate, and has now recommitted us to the Kyoto Protocol after complete inaction on its goals for the past 12 years.

You call that the same old?

Income trusts weren't a response to public opinion, they were a promise that anyone with half a brain could see wouldn't be kept, but which was made to solidify support among the core support group for the CP - upper-middle and higher income people over the age of 50.

The environmental flip-flop would have been easier to swallow if Harper was able to pronounce the words 'we were wrong', or, failing that 'we are changing our position to better reflect what Canadians want'. The fact that a lot of the funding has been announced several times as 'new' (certainly something the CP did not invent) and much of it is essentially restoring scrapped Liberal plans doesn't help.

You asked for three, but we can immediately add pinching an elected member of the opposition, and if I recall, giving him a cabinet position, before parliament even sat after the election. This after the incredible screaming and outrage over Belinda Stronach, who at least left over an actual issue. It doesn't make things look better that the CP never had a hope of winning that riding.

We could also have a look at the complete inaction on our unelected senate, which was made to look like a priority, and for me was one of the few positives in the Conservative platform.

Most recently, the Khan debacle should make anyone wonder how many backroom deals Harper is really making.

Edit - adscam is/was what it was, but I think was handled adequately when it came to light. While I don't want to encourage apathy in such things, $100 million is not that much money, and it was a much better election issue than it was an actual issue.

The war in Afghanistan was widely supported. I don't have an issue with us having gone there, but I certainly give Chretien credit for keeping us out of Iraq, despite immense pressure from south of the border.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Yo Canadians!

We've got trouble enough with our Democrats and Republicans without you guys messing it up with your Conservatives and Liberals.

No matter who runs your country . . . it's still cold, you export wood (with tariffs), we export pollution, and your tank needs a new battery . . . or do you just twist a crank?😉

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Yo Canadians!

We've got trouble enough with our Democrats and Republicans without you guys messing it up with your Conservatives and Liberals.

No matter who runs your country . . . it's still cold, you export wood (with tariffs), we export pollution, and your tank needs a new battery . . . or do you just twist a crank?😉

We finally won the wood fight, I think.

 

[Jhhnn]

This seems to be all the Rightwing has for ammunition at the moment- pre-emptive whining about how Dems are just as bad

As has already been said, wake me when the Dems pull a sleazy trick like the Medicare drug bill vote... until then, whine on little princesses, whine on...

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
As the democrats begin proving to everyone that they are no better than their republican brethren who ran the show before them, is anyone TRULY surprised?

Can you point me to a vote where it has run overtime? No, I bet you can't. And still you've lept to your predictable conclusion just like the OP. Turn your brains back on, gents. It makes you look a little loony to be complaining about something that hasn't happened yet.

F'n crickets ...

this particular issue is not the point, as their going overtime on a vote would just be one more example of their equally corrupted agenda.

face the facts Dealmonkey: they're ALL scum.

:beer:here is to Obama, or some other rookie, resisting the urge to become just another scumsucking political douchebag!

OMFG! So despite not actually doing what you're accusing them of doing, they're still guilty? Oh man, trying to get my head around that logic. 😕

no genius, I said that regardless of their guilt in this particular instance, they are still scumsucking maggots based on their hypocrisy in a hundred other situations. They are consistently proving that they are hardly one step above their republican brethren.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
As the democrats begin proving to everyone that they are no better than their republican brethren who ran the show before them, is anyone TRULY surprised?

Can you point me to a vote where it has run overtime? No, I bet you can't. And still you've lept to your predictable conclusion just like the OP. Turn your brains back on, gents. It makes you look a little loony to be complaining about something that hasn't happened yet.

F'n crickets ...

this particular issue is not the point, as their going overtime on a vote would just be one more example of their equally corrupted agenda.

face the facts Dealmonkey: they're ALL scum.

:beer:here is to Obama, or some other rookie, resisting the urge to become just another scumsucking political douchebag!

OMFG! So despite not actually doing what you're accusing them of doing, they're still guilty? Oh man, trying to get my head around that logic. 😕

no genius, I said that regardless of their guilt in this particular instance, they are still scumsucking maggots based on their hypocrisy in a hundred other situations. They are consistently proving that they are hardly one step above their republican brethren.

Well if that's not an endorsement for your party I don't know what is..not!:laugh:

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
As the democrats begin proving to everyone that they are no better than their republican brethren who ran the show before them, is anyone TRULY surprised?

Can you point me to a vote where it has run overtime? No, I bet you can't. And still you've lept to your predictable conclusion just like the OP. Turn your brains back on, gents. It makes you look a little loony to be complaining about something that hasn't happened yet.

F'n crickets ...

this particular issue is not the point, as their going overtime on a vote would just be one more example of their equally corrupted agenda.

face the facts Dealmonkey: they're ALL scum.

:beer:here is to Obama, or some other rookie, resisting the urge to become just another scumsucking political douchebag!

OMFG! So despite not actually doing what you're accusing them of doing, they're still guilty? Oh man, trying to get my head around that logic. 😕

no genius, I said that regardless of their guilt in this particular instance, they are still scumsucking maggots based on their hypocrisy in a hundred other situations. They are consistently proving that they are hardly one step above their republican brethren.

Well if that's not an endorsement for your party I don't know what is..not!:laugh:

For the 1000th fvcking time, IM NOT A G'DAMN REPUBLICAN. My voting record for candidates, over 15 years, has been roughly 50/50.

Get that through your thick polarizing heads. thank you.

derrr...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
As the democrats begin proving to everyone that they are no better than their republican brethren who ran the show before them, is anyone TRULY surprised?

Can you point me to a vote where it has run overtime? No, I bet you can't. And still you've lept to your predictable conclusion just like the OP. Turn your brains back on, gents. It makes you look a little loony to be complaining about something that hasn't happened yet.

F'n crickets ...

this particular issue is not the point, as their going overtime on a vote would just be one more example of their equally corrupted agenda.

face the facts Dealmonkey: they're ALL scum.

:beer:here is to Obama, or some other rookie, resisting the urge to become just another scumsucking political douchebag!

OMFG! So despite not actually doing what you're accusing them of doing, they're still guilty? Oh man, trying to get my head around that logic. 😕

no genius, I said that regardless of their guilt in this particular instance, they are still scumsucking maggots based on their hypocrisy in a hundred other situations. They are consistently proving that they are hardly one step above their republican brethren.

Well if that's not an endorsement for your party I don't know what is..not!:laugh:

For the 1000th fvcking time, IM NOT A G'DAMN REPUBLICAN. My voting record for candidates, over 15 years, has been roughly 50/50.

Get that through your thick polarizing heads. thank you.

derrr...

Sorry, usually if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it usually is a duck. I feel your pain though, because I absolutely detest the Republicans I'm often labled a Democrat though I am an Independent. However like you once in a while a Republican comes along that doesn't have the stink and I will vote for him.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
no genius, I said that regardless of their guilt in this particular instance, they are still scumsucking maggots based on their hypocrisy in a hundred other situations. They are consistently proving that they are hardly one step above their republican brethren.

Why don't you wait until the Dems actually do something worth criticizing them before going off on your idiotic rants then? Is that too much to ask?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74
no genius, I said that regardless of their guilt in this particular instance, they are still scumsucking maggots based on their hypocrisy in a hundred other situations. They are consistently proving that they are hardly one step above their republican brethren.

Why don't you wait until the Dems actually do something worth criticizing them before going off on your idiotic rants then? Is that too much to ask?

that would be two months ago...