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Democrats aren't the most intelligent party

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Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: CrimsonChaos
Yes, of course that chart is bogus -- you actually thought it was real? And don't confuse IQ with education -- they don't go hand in hand.

While I can't cite any phony graphs, I can say it's been my experience that the OP is correct. People in poverty and of little education often vote Democratic, as they are promised handouts from that party's leaders. Conversely, people who own companies, or have a substantial amount of money they've earned through daily work vote Republican to receive the tax breaks.

That isn't to say if you vote Republican you're necessarily smarter, or vice versa. Simply, the two parties offer different incentives to different groups of people to try to get their vote. No party is "better" than the other; they just have different priorities and agendas. Who you side with is based on your limited perceptions and needs -- nothing more.

Argh. I know I'm being trolled... 🙂

Democrats: Formerly the party of labor, teachers, and unions. Now hookwinked and 90% under corporate control.

Republicans: Party of management, wealth, and "Christian Right". 110% corporate controlled.

Independants: Idealist hoping that we can revive this country before we go the way of Rome.

sorry for the spelling... Typing fast before this is locked! 😀

I see Democrats as the party of socialism and nanny-state fascism. These two ideals rob me of more rights and freedoms than any republican ideal. As such I see them as the greatest real world threat to our individual liberty.

As far as the Christian Right goes, I see a lot of pandering, and very little if any progress on the national level. In fact, our society is becoming more socially permissive, not less. If anything, all the RR does is slow that trend a bit... but it's done nothing to reverse it long term.

BTW, I'm a libertarian.
 
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: CrimsonChaos
Yes, of course that chart is bogus -- you actually thought it was real? And don't confuse IQ with education -- they don't go hand in hand.

While I can't cite any phony graphs, I can say it's been my experience that the OP is correct. People in poverty and of little education often vote Democratic, as they are promised handouts from that party's leaders. Conversely, people who own companies, or have a substantial amount of money they've earned through daily work vote Republican to receive the tax breaks.

That isn't to say if you vote Republican you're necessarily smarter, or vice versa. Simply, the two parties offer different incentives to different groups of people to try to get their vote. No party is "better" than the other; they just have different priorities and agendas. Who you side with is based on your limited perceptions and needs -- nothing more.

Argh. I know I'm being trolled... 🙂

Democrats: Formerly the party of labor, teachers, and unions. Now hookwinked and 90% under corporate control.

Republicans: Party of management, wealth, and "Christian Right". 110% corporate controlled.

Independants: Idealist hoping that we can revive this country before we go the way of Rome.

sorry for the spelling... Typing fast before this is locked! 😀
I didn't quote, but I was speaking in direct reference to the OP. Of course you are correct, and each party consists of much more than the few castes I specified.

And I agree, it's time for us Independents to bring some sanity back to the US Government.

 
Remember George Washington begged the people not to form political parties. He knew what would happen...
 
Originally posted by: DefDC
Remember George Washington begged the people not to form political parties. He knew what would happen...

Meh...having groups that don't always agree provides checks and balances...

It's a lot more practical than relying on the good will of man to always do what's right...
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: DefDC
Remember George Washington begged the people not to form political parties. He knew what would happen...

Meh...having groups that don't always agree provides checks and balances...

It's a lot more practical than relying on the good will of man to always do what's right...

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...
 
Originally posted by: DefDC

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...

Corporations ARE men. WTF do you think they are? Aliens?

BTW, the more governemnt seeks to control any group of people, the more that group of people will seek to control government.

This is why there is a total separation of church and state. Do the same thing for business and business will no longer have the need, will, or ability to control government.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DefDC

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...

Corporations ARE men. WTF do you think they are? Aliens?

BTW, the more governemnt seeks to control any group of people, the more that group of people will seek to control government.

This is why there is a total separation of church and state. Do the same thing for business and business will no longer have the need, will, or ability to control government.

Do you realize that Child Labor laws, Safe working conditions, and minimum wages have to be LEGISLATED? I'm not saying that I'm all for big gov't, but I'm sure not any more comfortable with big corporations.

 
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DefDC

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...

Corporations ARE men. WTF do you think they are? Aliens?

BTW, the more governemnt seeks to control any group of people, the more that group of people will seek to control government.

This is why there is a total separation of church and state. Do the same thing for business and business will no longer have the need, will, or ability to control government.

Do you realize that Child Labor laws, Safe working conditions, and minimum wages have to be LEGISLATED? I'm not saying that I'm all for big gov't, but I'm sure not any more comfortable with big corporations.

Do you realize that none of those laws are why business is trying to influence government? Do you realize how many regulations there are on businesses?
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DefDC

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...

Corporations ARE men. WTF do you think they are? Aliens?

BTW, the more governemnt seeks to control any group of people, the more that group of people will seek to control government.

This is why there is a total separation of church and state. Do the same thing for business and business will no longer have the need, will, or ability to control government.

Do you realize that Child Labor laws, Safe working conditions, and minimum wages have to be LEGISLATED? I'm not saying that I'm all for big gov't, but I'm sure not any more comfortable with big corporations.

Do you realize that none of those laws are why business is trying to influence government? Do you realize how many regulations there are on businesses?


Hmmm from your posts you seem to be more scared of Socialism than Fasicsm. We might just differ on which is most likely to bring our country to it's knees.
 
Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: DefDC
Remember George Washington begged the people not to form political parties. He knew what would happen...

Meh...having groups that don't always agree provides checks and balances...

It's a lot more practical than relying on the good will of man to always do what's right...

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...

Because corporations are owned and run by what, robots?
 

Ehhhh... I'd have to say, I'd have faith in in the good will of man before the good will of corporate interests...[/quote]

Because corporations are owned and run by what, robots?[/quote]

Not just robots... EVIL FASCIST ROBOTS! ((JK).. Sorta))
 
Originally posted by: CrimsonChaos
While I can't cite any phony graphs, I can say it's been my experience that the OP is correct. People in poverty and of little education often vote Democratic, as they are promised handouts from that party's leaders. Conversely, people who own companies, or have a substantial amount of money they've earned through daily work vote Republican to receive the tax breaks.
49% of America disagrees.
 
Democrats in this area are too dumb to use the new electronic voting devices like the Republicans. They stick with paper ballots. My parents were election judges and noticed it.
 
Let's see:
Graduated with honors from Ivy League school while living on ramen noodles
PhD from Emory while living on ramen noodles
Tenured associate professor at major state university
Published numerous articles, wrote a book
Recognized authority in her field
Works out 4-5 times a week
Mother of two

Yeah, my wife is a total slacker and a drain on society. Good thing we have you Republicans to tell us all who's working hard and who isn't.:roll:
 
Originally posted by: phantom309
Let's see:
Graduated with honors from Ivy League school while living on ramen noodles
PhD from Emory while living on ramen noodles
Tenured associate professor at major state university
Published numerous articles, wrote a book
Recognized authority in her field
Works out 4-5 times a week
Mother of two

Yeah, my wife is a total slacker and a drain on society. Good thing we have you Republicans to tell us all who's working hard and who isn't.:roll:

Tell your wife to get a real job, not some weak 8 months a year job. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Most mensans consider themselves Libertarian. Most successful business people are Republican. Most college professors who live off of government handouts vote Democrat. Actually any individual who lives off of government handouts votes Democrat.

Someone sent me this link and it ticked me off. Please note that if Baltimore didn't exist Bush would have won Maryland easily.

How is being a college professor living off government handouts? :roll:

How about this, anyone who votes strictly along party lines is an idiot.
 
Originally posted by: saymyname
Originally posted by: phantom309
Let's see:
Graduated with honors from Ivy League school while living on ramen noodles
PhD from Emory while living on ramen noodles
Tenured associate professor at major state university
Published numerous articles, wrote a book
Recognized authority in her field
Works out 4-5 times a week
Mother of two

Yeah, my wife is a total slacker and a drain on society. Good thing we have you Republicans to tell us all who's working hard and who isn't.:roll:

Tell your wife to get a real job, not some weak 8 months a year job. 😛
I wish it worked that way - I mean it'd be cool if I could get her to go paint houses in the summer or something😉 - but that's when she writes the books.
 
I think you guys are forgetting on the 1) Rich businesspeople who live in big cities and vote Democrat (all of Wall Street isn't Republican) and 2) Middle-class and lower whites in the south and middle of the country.
 
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