Democrats Are Obsessed With Impeachment

[nageov3t]

thought this was a funny read from Nate Silver.

House Speaker John Boehner said Tuesday that Republicans have no plans to impeach President Obama, and that all the impeachment talk was driven by Democrats hoping to stir up their base.

Boehner’s statement isn’t literally true: There have been mentions of impeachment around the edges of the GOP and by some Republican members of Congress. But on the whole, Democrats are spending a lot more time talking about impeachment than Republicans.

Consider, for example, the Sunlight Foundation’s Capitol Words database, which tracks words spoken in the House and Senate. So far in July, there have been 10 mentions of the term “impeachment” in Congress and four others of the term “impeach.” Eleven of the 14 mentions have been made by Democratic rather than Republican members of Congress, however...

MSNBC hasn’t become quite as obsessed with impeachment as CNN was with Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, but it may be getting there. Impeachment mentions on MSNBC increased sixfold from May to July. Overall, since Jan. 1, MSNBC has mentioned impeachment 905 times to Fox News’s 213.

Some of the impeachment discussion from Democratic politicians and liberal commentators has a kind of a Br’er Rabbit quality. “Only please, Br’er Republicans, don’t impeach President Obama!” they say. But Democrats know such a move would be highly unpopular with the public and might be one of the few things that would revive their long-shot chances of recapturing the House of Representatives in November. In the meantime, Democrats have raised a bundle of money — at least $2.1 million — through emails like these:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/obama-impeachment-msnbc-fox-news/

 

[BoberFett]

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to hear that partisans would lie in order to advance their agenda.

 

[Bitek]

The point being what?

Considering the blowback the GOP received for impeaching Clinton, do they have motivation for conjuring up those memories? Of course.

But why does that even have any traction? Because it's completely consistent with right wing behavior for the last 20 years.

They impeached Clinton "over a blue dress".
They invaded Iraq under false pretenses, blew $1T and thousands of american lives and said nothing.
They vowed to make Obama a one term president.
They called him a fake and a fraud and every nasty name in the book.
They've launched an ill conceived lawsuit over something we don't really understand yet.
They've shut the govt down and threatened felt on multiple occasions.

Oh, but impeachment? That's too far fetched for this crowd! What are they, out of control loons? Impossible!

So too was shut down. But the same people pushing that crazy idea that came to be are the same ones talking impeachment now.


It's part offense and part defense by the dems. Punish them for their foolishness now, hoping to embarrass them enough to keep them from actually trying it.

Good lord, the democrats fight back for one and it makes news. What does that tell you?

 

[werepossum]

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to hear that partisans would lie in order to advance their agenda.

lol Yeah, we'd all better hope that doesn't catch on in D.C.

 

[Knowing]

I believe Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice, those are serious crimes if you're a pleb. Also, they should have added an additional charge for setting sex ed and English back a number of decades.

A bipartisan congress voted to delegate warmaking authority to the president, which was essentially without precedent. There was even a constitutional challenge by people who didn't become antiwar when it was politically expedient. The court in Massachusetts had this to say:

To the contrary, Congress has been deeply involved in significant debate, activity, and authorization connected to our relations with Iraq for over a decade, under three different presidents of both major political parties, and during periods when each party has controlled Congress.

(emphasis mine)

Democrats called Bush nasty names too. (and I agreed with them to a large degree)

I guess Nate Silver isn't popular with the Dems when he writes things that don't benefit them.

 

[boomerang]

Good lord, the democrats fight back for one and it makes news. What does that tell you?

It tells me you need to go ahead and write the check. Their fundraising attempt has been a huge success with you.

 

[Matt1970]

The point being what?

Considering the blowback the GOP received for impeaching Clinton, do they have motivation for conjuring up those memories? Of course.

But why does that even have any traction? Because it's completely consistent with right wing behavior for the last 20 years.

They impeached Clinton "over a blue dress".
They invaded Iraq under false pretenses, blew $1T and thousands of american lives and said nothing.
They vowed to make Obama a one term president.
They called him a fake and a fraud and every nasty name in the book.
They've launched an ill conceived lawsuit over something we don't really understand yet.
They've shut the govt down and threatened felt on multiple occasions.

Oh, but impeachment? That's too far fetched for this crowd! What are they, out of control loons? Impossible!

So too was shut down. But the same people pushing that crazy idea that came to be are the same ones talking impeachment now.


It's part offense and part defense by the dems. Punish them for their foolishness now, hoping to embarrass them enough to keep them from actually trying it.

Good lord, the democrats fight back for one and it makes news. What does that tell you?

You are supposed to just sip the Kool Aid.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Hmmmmmm could it be due to some brain defect????

 

[Moonbeam]

Interesting that conservatives are so quick to attribute ulterior motives to what Democrats do as if they would do anything to get elected. I can't imagine where such an insight would come from. Of course, having a brain defect that prevents you from seeing why you do things, makes this kind of behavior so much easier. Nothing to do, however, but laugh as the poor bastards can't help themselves. They have a defect that they are in love with and as long as that's true it can't be cured.

 

[BoberFett]

The more you talk, the more defective you appear Moonfreak.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I guess some liberals do have enlarged amygdala as we all know Conservative Women tend to be happier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/o...-and-extremists-are-happiest-of-all.html?_r=0

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232759.php

Depressed Mothers' Offspring Have Enlarged Amygdala

The amygdala is related to the release of glucocorticoids, types of stress hormones. The scientists observed that levels of glucocorticoids among the offspring of depressed mothers in the study spiked considerably when they faced unfamiliar situations, i.e. they experienced elevated levels of stress.

Adults brought up by depressed mothers have demonstrated higher levels of glucocorticoids and a greater glucocorticoid reaction in laboratory stress tests.

 

[thraashman]

Conservative Women tend to be happier.

Ignorance is bliss. And there's not much more ignorant than a person who will vote for a party that is trying its damnedest to destroy that person's rights.

 

[trenchfoot]

I googled "Repubs threaten to impeach Obama", and the jist of it all had something to with how the Repubs in DC, after call after call after call to impeach Obama, especially by the Tea Party faithful, now see how potentially damaging it would be to keep pursuing that course and have reversed their "strategery" and are now blaming the Dems for instigating the impeachment calls by pointing to the responses the Dems have been making to the Repub impeachment threats. Clever, but pretty obvious even to the casual observer.

At the least, I give credit to the Repubs who saw themselves tightening a noose around their own necks (that Obama gladly went out of his way to gift them with), and didn't actually hit the impeachment lever that would have had the floor drop out from under them.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Depression leads to early deaths and screwed up children that grow up to be liberal.

 

[werepossum]

Ignorance is bliss. And there's not much more ignorant than a person who will vote for a party that is trying its damnedest to destroy that person's rights.

Yeah, I remember when the GOP greatly escalated spying on Americans, tapped the phones of non-compliant journalists, prosecuted whistle-blowers in unprecedented numbers, tried to end Second Amendment rights, insisted that the First Amendment's freedom of religion actually prohibited any practice of religion in a public place (or a private place visible from a public place), and even went so far as to assert that they should have control over what one could drink with lunch. Damned Nazi control freaks! Why can't they be for freedom like the Democrats?

 

[sandorski]

It's such a ridiculous idea that when one side suggests it as a serious thing to do, the other side needs to nip it in the bud. Who mentions the word most is Moot, what is important is who is suggesting it as a legitimate course of action.

 

[BoberFett]

Ignorance is bliss. And there's not much more ignorant than a person who will vote for a party that is trying its damnedest to destroy that person's rights.

Wait.. tell me, who's driven by fear again?

"Look out! The Republicans are coming to steal your rights!!!!"

 

[Moonbeam]

Wait.. tell me, who's driven by fear again?

"Look out! The Republicans are coming to steal your rights!!!!"

You just project your own fear of being controlled. A liberal will tell you not to walk alone of the savanna with lions are around. That isn't fear, it's the vocalization of an obvious truth. You make this mental error constantly because you don't know the difference between common sense caution and irrational fear.

 

[ivwshane]

The more you talk, the more defective you appear Moonfreak.

Interestingly, the more butt hurt you seem to get.


If were to apply the same logic used in the OP, people talking about racism would be racist, people talking about how the right hates the poor would mean they hate the poor even more.

Fear is one hell of a bitch and it's not surprising how the repubs have turned this around considering they fear that their impeachment tactic is being used against them.

Brain defect? I don't know, but it does seem primitive.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/29/sec..._conservatives_see_a_different_hostile_world/

 

[werepossum]

You just project your own fear of being controlled. A liberal will tell you not to walk alone of the savanna with lions are around. That isn't fear, it's the vocalization of an obvious truth. You make this mental error constantly because you don't know the difference between common sense caution and irrational fear.

Just out of curiosity, could you read and retype the bolded below? Because your post would suggest not.

Ignorance is bliss. And there's not much more ignorant than a person who will vote for a party that is trying its damnedest to destroy that person's rights.

It's such a ridiculous idea that when one side suggests it as a serious thing to do, the other side needs to nip it in the bud. Who mentions the word most is Moot, what is important is who is suggesting it as a legitimate course of action.

The Dems aren't trying to nip it in the bud, dude. They are desperately trying to give the perception that impeachment is a very real threat in order to recreate the political benefit Clinton enjoyed in the hopes that this perception will save them electorally in November. The GOP (less the crazier elements anyway) have figured out that just as the media successfully sold the dumb masses the idea that Clinton's impeachment on perjury and obstruction of justice was "just about consensual sex", impeaching Obama on unilaterally breaking the law will result in the media successfully selling the dumb masses the idea that Obama's impeachment would be about Kenya or his birth certificate or something else similarly frivolous.

Unfortunately for the Dems, they don't have a lot this year besides this, so they're going with what they have even if what they have is imaginary.

 

[BoberFett]

You just project your own fear of being controlled. A liberal will tell you not to walk alone of the savanna with lions are around. That isn't fear, it's the vocalization of an obvious truth. You make this mental error constantly because you don't know the difference between common sense caution and irrational fear.

The mental gymnastics that "liberals" perform in order to convince themselves that their imaginations are representative of the real world are nothing short of fantastic.

 

[Moonbeam]

Just out of curiosity, could you read and retype the bolded below? Because your post would suggest not.

Would be glad to help but I don't understand your request.

 

[werepossum]

Would be glad to help but I don't understand your request.

lol

 

[Moonbeam]

The mental gymnastics that "liberals" perform in order to convince themselves that their imaginations are representative of the real world are nothing short of fantastic.

My insights into how this works have nothing at all to do with politics. I know you because I know me. We are psychologically the same. I know my mental gymnastics better than you do and am thereby freer of them. I had to pay the price of ego and face the terror of the nothing. My victory came through defeat. Now I have a big understanding Da feet are amazing. You are only an ego death away from being just like me, my lovely Bro.

 

[theeedude]

Can you be sure GOP won't impeach Obama? The tea party inmates are running the asylum over there, I wouldn't put it past them.