Democratic Primary Poll (Formerly Warren or Gabbard)

[dank69]

I think Warren is more valuable as a Senator.

 

[K1052]

There are about to be 136 more democrats running for the presidency. Keep the powder dry.

 

[dank69]

There are about to be 136 more democrats running for the presidency. Keep the powder dry.

I know but I find this to be an interesting choice. I do not know a whole lot about Gabbard yet. Onthissues does not have a whole lot of info for her. All I can gather right now is she is a middle-of-the-road Democrat.

People can change their votes here if they change their minds down the road. It also looks like I might be able to add choices later.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I would vote for Tulsi Gabbard, especially because she is a veteran and had the audacity to challenge the mainstream by supporting Sanders.

Warren has already proven that questions over her heritage will derail and send her off message. I have to find the article, but I believe Nate Silver did an analysis on which Democrats performed best in the midterms, and Warren actually underperformed.

 

[Jaskalas]

All I can gather right now is she is a middle-of-the-road Democrat.

Is Bernie Sanders a middle-of-the-road Democrat too?
Because Tulsi was 100% behind Sanders in 2016.

I believe her detractors want to make a case on foreign policy, but I'm not biting. Not that I fully grasp the distinction they're talking about. I first saw the article this morning and I cannot quite wrap my head around the message.

 

[dank69]

Is Bernie Sanders a middle-of-the-road Democrat too?
Because Tulsi was 100% behind Sanders in 2016.

I believe her detractors want to make a case on foreign policy, but I'm not biting. Not that I fully grasp the distinction they're talking about.

Yeah but would she across the board vote for single payer, legalize drugs, free tuition, etc. like Sanders? I honestly don't know.

 

[Jaskalas]

Yeah but would she across the board vote for single payer, legalize drugs, free tuition, etc. like Sanders? I honestly don't know.

True, I don't know either how far she'd go on specific issues. Thankfully, a campaign would probably help define those issues. But anyone who believes in Sanders is probably further "Left" than anyone that has ever been President. If Tulsi has a weakness, I'm not sure how effective of a communicator she is. If someone can help her deliver her message. I hope she can.

 

[cirrrocco]

Gabbard ftw. Sanders / Gabbard for 2020

 

[UglyCasanova]

Warren.

 

[IronWing]

I shall ponder this question in about a year from now if it is still a question at that time.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I think Warren is more valuable as a Senator.

Or AG

 

[HomerJS]

Or AG

I'm liking that idea. She would pounce on those Wall Street crooks and shady corporations like a pit bull on a pork chop.

She would prioritize that along with civil rights and voting rights

 

[zinfamous]

The primary pause that I have with Tulsi Gabbard is that her family is an extremely fundamentalist religio-cult that harbors intensely inhuman ultra-conservative social policy beliefs. She was very active in such groups, up until the time in her life when she went political as a democrat, and rather publicly "recanted" all of that past. That's a pretty strong passion to hold for decades, to suddenly flip when the plan is to get into politics.

I think she has voted OK, but my concern is that her younger, perhaps truer self and her family and their history would influence her enough to make any kind of compromise with the type of human-killing conservatives that make up the vast majority of the GOP electorate. There can't really be any sort of tolerance for these people and their broken ideas in a modern society.

 

[zinfamous]

I would vote for Tulsi Gabbard, especially because she is a veteran and had the audacity to challenge the mainstream by supporting Sanders.

Warren has already proven that questions over her heritage will derail and send her off message. I have to find the article, but I believe Nate Silver did an analysis on which Democrats performed best in the midterms, and Warren actually underperformed.

I like how our standards for Democrats are "Jesus-like perfection" where for republicans, it's "let's hope for better-than-2nd-grade cognitive levels."

OH wait no, I don't like that. I daresay such people aren't really being honest in their "independent" assessment of candidates across both parties. funny that.

 

[Victorian Gray]

If Gabbard wins maybe she could ask this guy to be her vice president




I actually don't believe that either has a hope in hell of getting the nomination.

 

[Indus]

I think 7 have a legit shot at the nomination..

Beto
Biden
Harris
Gabbard
Sanders
Warren
Booker

I'm not sure which one will win out but everyone will have their positives and negatives.

 

[Jaskalas]

If Gabbard wins maybe she could ask this guy to be her vice president

Yes, the Republican position on talking to enemy nations is clear.
Democrats, however, have a more sensible approach. Which Republicans have hated on and lambasted for years, decades even.

The question I have is... why did you side with the Republicans? Particularly when its so close to their tired and true agenda of regime change?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yes, the Republican position on talking to enemy nations is clear.
Democrats, however, have a more sensible approach. Which Republicans have hated on and lambasted for years, decades even.

The question I have is... why did you side with the Republicans? Particularly when its so close to their tired and true agenda of regime change?

ROFLMAO

Thanks for the laugh

 

[Stokely]

The primary pause that I have with Tulsi Gabbard is that her family is an extremely fundamentalist religio-cult that harbors intensely inhuman ultra-conservative social policy beliefs. She was very active in such groups, up until the time in her life when she went political as a democrat, and rather publicly "recanted" all of that past. That's a pretty strong passion to hold for decades, to suddenly flip when the plan is to get into politics.

I think she has voted OK, but my concern is that her younger, perhaps truer self and her family and their history would influence her enough to make any kind of compromise with the type of human-killing conservatives that make up the vast majority of the GOP electorate. There can't really be any sort of tolerance for these people and their broken ideas in a modern society.

yep. I'm out. No religious nutters please, if you are moronic to believe that stuff as an adult you don't get a pass on it later when you want to be seen as mainstream. I don't give a shit which religion either. They are all cults.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I like how our standards for Democrats are "Jesus-like perfection" where for republicans, it's "let's hope for better-than-2nd-grade cognitive levels."

OH wait no, I don't like that. I daresay such people aren't really being honest in their "independent" assessment of candidates across both parties. funny that.

I don’t see how preferring Gabbard over Warren is an expectation of Jesus like perfection. Warren has made some blunders and is perhaps better in the Senate. If Democrats want independent voters to get excited, they need to do better than Clinton. Sanders missed his window of opportunity. Beto is shiny. Gabbard is credible.

I would support a Biden/Gabbard ticket.

 

[Jaskalas]

ROFLMAO

Thanks for the laugh

Do you still stand by your stated position FOR regime change in Syria?

Syria will never recover as a functioning state if Assad is allowed to remain.​

It just seems strange to see a Democrat wanting the United States to REPEAT the mistakes of 2003 Iraq. Saddam just had to go, right? Sorry, maybe I didn't catch when you joined George W. Bush in foreign policy.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Do you still stand by your stated position FOR regime change in Syria?

Syria will never recover as a functioning state if Assad is allowed to remain.​

It just seems strange to see a Democrat wanting the United States to REPEAT the mistakes of 2003 Iraq. Saddam just had to go, right? Sorry, maybe I didn't catch when you joined George W. Bush in foreign policy.

Who the fuck's a democrat? I'm not even an American. Don't even like the Democratic Party.

You should stick with shit you actually know something about. Like calling Hillary Clinton the devil.

edit (added a couple more)

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2016/12/20/assads-torture-dungeons

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/05/2011515113431187136.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ccaa6e-0d61-11e7-b2bb-417e331877d9_story.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2016/11/disappeared-syria-161110134005207.html

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09...president-bashar-al-assad-has-been-his-people

https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/02/03/syria-stop-torture-children

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/world/middleeast/syria-bashar-al-assad-evidence.html

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...terhouse-amnesty-report-torture-mass-hangings

https://www.dw.com/en/syrian-women-tortured-and-humiliated-in-assad-regime-prisons/a-43600204

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/syria-bodies/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...conditions-exclusive-life-jails-a7899776.html

 

[Sonikku]

Women seem to have pause when it comes to voting for a female candidate which unfortunately is not limited to Hillary. If the Dems want the best chance nominating someone like Biden would probably be their best bet. Sanders would have been my first choice, but he's just too old at this point.

 

[ivwshane]

Women seem to have pause when it comes to voting for a female candidate which unfortunately is not limited to Hillary. If the Dems want the best chance nominating someone like Biden would probably be their best bet. Sanders would have been my first choice, but he's just too old at this point.

Isn't Biden just as old as sanders?


I like warren because, like Clinton, she has real thought out policies to deal with issues that concern her and like Clinton she has a record of accomplishments, unlike sanders.


That being said, if it's between any Democrat or trump, I'll be voting third party because none of the democrat candidates will meet my ridiculous expectations, including not having a history of baseless attacks by the GOP.
/s

 

[zinfamous]

I don’t see how preferring Gabbard over Warren is an expectation of Jesus like perfection. Warren has made some blunders and is perhaps better in the Senate. If Democrats want independent voters to get excited, they need to do better than Clinton. Sanders missed his window of opportunity. Beto is shiny. Gabbard is credible.

I would support a Biden/Gabbard ticket.

You wrote off Warren for basically 2 public comments.

go back to thinking about what you said.

I don't mind Gabbard in the lesser role...but again as mentioned earlier: she was basically raised in a Clockwork Orange family of Wurm eaters and Baal worshipers so...you know, I honestly believe in how people can learn and reform themselves...but still, that.